My biggest pet peeves:

#1: I cannot have my pet chocobo out to earn experience for it while waiting in the duty finder.
---I'm level 50 and would like to level my chocobo while I am sitting around waiting to do other level 50 stuff from the duty finder. Dumping me out of the duty finder queue for summoning my chocobo is irritating. Not being able to queue for DF while my chocobo is out is equally irritating.

#2: I cannot teleport or return from inside an inn room.
---I can literally teleport from inside anywhere else in the world, from the lower depths of hell to the highest peaks of Coerthas, but from inside an inn room...nope, some magical, mystical barrier doesn't allow it.

#3: I cannot push "R" to reply to private tells.
---Why must I type: /r ? Most of us are used to "R" doing this same thing.

#4: "Sacrifices" made to the client and servers to allow PS3 players to co-exist with PC players.
---While this/these are good ideas in theory, it really is alienating me - and a lot of others, I gather. The insane amount of zoning and loading I must do just to get through a city makes my eyes bleed. Inventory management...makes my eyes bleed.

#5: Retainers.
---Why must I have to "hire" an NPC to sell stuff for me? What prevents me from just putting things up on the auction block without having to go through a 3rd party NPC, full of extra menus and dialogues which are completely unnecessary?

#6: Animation lock, especially on limit break.
---As a Dragoon, I am no stranger to animation lock, and have grown to just deal with it. But it doesn't even fit with FF Lore that I can be locked in my Dragoon limit break animation, and the monster can move just a few feet and not get hit by my limit break because it gets interrupted for being out of range. NEVER in FF was a monster able to "escape" a Limit Break by moving out of the way. If I'm going to be locked down for the entire cast bar of the limit break, AND locked down for the animation afterwards, AND THEN the damage fires, then there should be zero chance of missing or interruption after the cast bar due to the mob moving. Do all classes even have a casting bar on their limit break?

#7: AoE on FATEs.
---This really chaps my hide having to work my tail off to tag and do enough damage to monsters during FATEs to get enough credit for a silver or gold reward, while a caster can just AoE nuke an area, tapping everything as it spawns, and cackle at not only their tapped-mob kill credit, but assured gold reward for hardly any effort. A simple solution to this would to make AoE spells/abilities NOT tap a FATE mob. It requires single-target abilities to tap them, OR the mob hitting the caster immediately after taking damage. If someone else single-target damages the mob between the AoE and the caster hit, the single-target person gets the tap.

#8: 1 gil loot in level 50 dungeons.
---Really? I mean, seriously. Things like this are why Grumpy Cat is grumpy.

#9: Reserving Instance.
---It's enough that I have to wait in a queue a long time as a DPS to even get a group, but to then wait doubly long because of instance reservation afterwards? Here's an idea: instance reservation goes in the order people join the queue, NOT once a full group is found. This fixes the problem of healers/tanks being able to "monopolize" or bully groups into doing only what they want to do, "or I'll just leave and queue again and get a group in 15 minutes immediately, while you all will have to wait an hour or more." I've also had healers say things like, "Word of advice: watch youtube before coming here next time", and then leaving immediately afterwards. This was at the very start of a dungeon, when someone said, "This is my first time here." Nothing else was said, and we hadn't even started fighting mobs yet. This wasn't the first time, and I doubt it will be the last. They know DPS have to wait forever, while tanks/healers do not, so they have the advantage when it comes to leaving if they feel like making everyone else miserable.

#10: Side Quests are not repeatable.
---What I mean by this is, every side quest should be changed to be repeatable once by every class role, and this would tremendously solve the problem of not having enough quests to viably level the other classes once you've reached 50 with your main class. It would require no additional quests added to the game. Just a flag for completion on each class of your character.

Edit: #11: Crafting in an Inn Room, not allowed.
---I would love to be able to do this in the Inn, since it's a great place to go and get away from the huge framerate lag around the cities, AND gives you access to your retainer to put things up on the market that you craft. If anyone has seen the retainer bell in cities sometimes, they are literally COVERED by people standing around them while using their own retainer, making it nearly impossible to click the bell, and laggy as heck.

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tl;dr: New things scare me, please make the game more like WoW.

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Originally Posted by nails

My best advise when doing instance is to look at the toxic players as entertainment, and to also feel sorry for them. Very few toxic players survive in mmo unless backed by an entourage of other...

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That about sums up your response about you, especially if you didn't read what I wrote.

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Originally Posted by Nanga

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#3: I cannot push "R" to reply to private tells.
---Why must I type: /r ? Most of us are used to "R" doing this same thing.

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You can change the keybind to make R do what you want.

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Originally Posted by jojober

You can change the keybind to make R do what you want.

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And the default keybind is alt+r, which I prefer, since it leaves "R" open for me to bind to something else.

Organized and constructive. I dislike complainers but at least this is reasonable and such. I also have the same problems, no AoE for this Paladin here.. except one on cooldown.. for 25 seconds. 25 SECONDS.

Ahhh thank you. I looked for this two weeks ago but all I could find was /r.

While I agree with some, I don't agree with all. I play on the PS3 and am Happy I get to play this game. I'll eventually move to PS4 and continue there. I use ALT+R to reply to messages. But most commands have an Alt and a Ctrl funtion. Don't forget the Archers/Bards also have an AoE they spam too, only the THM/BLM really have AoE DMG. I've not run into too many jerks when it comes to Parties in dungeons, only the few that tell me to macro my pet commands. >_> If they have a way to do self macros, I'd be glad to learn, but nothing to my knowledge on that.

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Originally Posted by Zeargi

While I agree with some, I don't agree with all. I play on the PS3 and am Happy I get to play this game. I'll eventually move to PS4 and continue there. I use ALT+R to reply to messages.

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Maybe I should have elaborated more on the PS3<->PC issue, but it was still TL;DR for some:

I would *like* for an option to play on a server that is PC-only, if I desire. I know, I know, this would probably deteriorate the health of the game in the long run, but there's always the chance it doesn't, if implemented correctly. I just don't think that in today's technological age we should be making sacrifices for cross-platform play because it turns people off quickly when they tire of all the waiting, loading, instancing, extra menus, dialogues, etc that allow lesser-capable platforms to play with them.

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Originally Posted by jojober

You can change the keybind to make R do what you want.

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Also, I just checked on this. You cannot assign just "R" to the reply function. It gives you an error message telling you it must be a two-key combination of CTL+ or ALT+

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Originally Posted by Nanga

Also, I just checked on this. You cannot assign just "R" to the reply function. It gives you an error message telling you it must be a two-key combination of CTL+ or ALT+

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Alt-R is the default for replying to tells.

I agree with the chocobo deal. The fact that I can't level my chocobo while waiting for a Duty is ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by Issac

Alt-R is the default for replying to tells.

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Yes, we covered that. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by Nanga

Yes, we covered that. Thanks.

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No problem!
You hit w to move forward, or hold the left and right mouse buttons.
Hitting R without alt initiates autorun! So does clicking the mouse wheel.

The sky is normally blue.
And pancakes are better in every way than waffles.

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Originally Posted by Uveck

I agree with the chocobo deal. The fact that I can't level my chocobo while waiting for a Duty is ridiculous.

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Yep, also the fact that I can't turn minions off entirely sucks. I don't mean their names, I want them all gone from my screen. I don't care about your pointer, your baby eye, you demon brick, you baby behemoth, and all that other crap.

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Originally Posted by Issac

No problem!
You hit w to move forward, or hold the left and right mouse buttons.
Hitting R without alt initiates autorun! So does clicking the mouse wheel.

The sky is normally blue.
And pancakes are better in every way than waffles.

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Actually, I'm left-handed...and I'm also of the age that when the mouse was invented, lefties held the mouse in our left hand, on the left side of the keyboard. I've never switched to conform to how righties hold the mouse. So, it's awkward for me to either take my left hand off the mouse to push a key combination, or use my right hand to do it. Pretty much every keybind I have to re-map.

#1 Valid concern I think.
#2 Why would you be in your inn room except to log out?
#3 This tells me you've put little to no effort yourself into addressing any of your concerns. If you already have to remap keys because you're left handed... why are you complaining about the default setting???
#4 Zoning doesn't feel excessive,at least to me and load times are very short... perhaps your computer needs some help?
#5 I like the isolation the retainers provide, and the large amounts of storage. The menu's could be faster yes but it's not like it takes more than a few seconds to get at what you need.
#6 Yes animation lock is annoying but perhaps that's working as intended? It might be something they've balanced into combat design. (Just a theory)
#7 Fate credit is an issue but I think that has more to do with the number of people participating and the lack of scaling than aoe vs non aoe.
#8 1 gil loot is ridiculous but Yoshi P has already said that gil from dungeons would be increased. (I found it in Reinhart's thread)
#9 This has more to do with the community, tanks are having to wait too... with the reserving instance issue we sit just as long as dps do.
#10 I don't see this happening as it would ruin lore, but more diversity than just fates and dungeons are definitely needed for those who want it.

Please don't conflate the sacrifices they made for PS3, with servers zones. Because they are completely different issues. They didn't sacrifice on server capacity because of PS3 limitations, that wouldn't make any sense. The reason for it is because of server load, and has nothing to do with PS3, and isolating PC users from PS3 users would be a very bad thing, without actually changing the zoning structure. The servers are designed to handle max capacity where everyone is distributed evenly throughout the zones, because each zone is its own server. The cities are especially fragmented because they have to handle more people at the same time. You have to expect as many people, if not more, in one of the two city zones, as in one of the larger world zones. The only solution for this would be to have insanely scaled server clusters to handle an entire world at the same time, and again, this has nothing to do with PS3 limitations, but with server limitations. uhm.. that came out too long and confusing probably....but anyway...

Also, I think the retainer is to solve the problem of having to stay online to sell stuff, and I prefer it that way. I do agree on the chocobo thing that is just annoying.

The reserving instance thing is because of server limitations as well, combined with excessive re-runs. Again, each instance server was designed to handle only so many people. But if everybody keeps running the same dungeon over and over again, then the server is going to lock you out. This is akin to being stuck in a queue at login. (Better than a new 1017.. dungeon is full I guess.)

Everyone seems to blame the PS3 for everything but they tend to forget this game was also made for low-end PC.
So you can have your own server for PCs... with the same exact thing.

At least with zoning, you're able to get unique and beautiful environments.

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Originally Posted by Vanidin

#1 Valid concern I think.
#2 Why would you be in your inn room except to log out?

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When you login, you zone into your inn room. You then must zone out of your inn room into a very long load time due to hundreds of people standing around. And THEN you can teleport to wherever you want. Why can't I just use teleport/return from inside the inn room, instead of having to zone out of the inn room, into a heavily-populated area, to be able to go to where you want to go.

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#3 This tells me you've put little to no effort yourself into addressing any of your concerns. If you already have to remap keys because you're left handed... why are you complaining about the default setting???

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You didn't read clear enough to understand it...uh, clearly. When you're old and crusty, you tend to do what you're used to doing and changing something to do the exact same thing doesn't come easy. Pressing "R" is not allowed. It must be a two-key press. That is the concern.

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#4 Zoning doesn't feel excessive,at least to me and load times are very short... perhaps your computer needs some help?

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Maybe to you. Maybe it's your server, less pop in certain areas? I don't know. In our cities on our server, multiple zoning gets old fast.

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#9 This has more to do with the community, tanks are having to wait too... with the reserving instance issue we sit just as long as dps do.

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Actually, I've sat here in a 3-hour period and watched the group numbers in DF while waiting for HM Garuda. 4/4 DPS the entire time, and every 5-10 minutes a healer or tank will add to the list, then a minute or two later they drop back to zero. It does this repeatedly, over and over for an hour or so, until finally we get lucky enough that TWO tanks and TWO healers get into our group all in the same 10 minute period, and THEN we get "Reserving Instance", and wait. I don't think you're seeing the same thing I'm seeing, or understanding it. But it's pretty clear what's going on. While our group is still waiting to fill up before an instance gets reserved for us, a tank or healer will get added to it, then they get added to another group that's nearly full, too, and dropped from ours.

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Also, I think the retainer is to solve the problem of having to stay online to sell stuff, and I prefer it that way.

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I only know of one other game that you had to "stay online" to sell stuff. MMO's have come a long way, but even with that given, most games don't require you to stay online to auction things, nor have to do it through a 3rd party NPC.

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Originally Posted by Nanga

I only know of one other game that you had to "stay online" to sell stuff. MMO's have come a long way, but even with that given, most games don't require you to stay online to auction things, nor have to do it through a 3rd party NPC.

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Well it is just a game play interaction representation. The game could just as easily put your stuff on the board directly without showing a retainer, but then where would the money go? Magically into your pocket wherever you are? That doesn't make sense from an in-world perspective at all. It only makes sense if you are doing the selling directly, or standing by the board or whatever(which would require you to stay online). The addition of the NPC solves the world consistency problem, plus gives some nice perks of extra storage space. I guess I still don't understand. What am I missing? What could they do that wouldn't break world consistency without adding something like the NPC?

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Originally Posted by Nanga

Ahhh thank you. I looked for this two weeks ago but all I could find was /r.

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You must not have looked very far. A quick google search of "ffxiv reply to tell" shows me numerous articles explaining how, more than two weeks old.

As for the rest of the complaints.. the only one that grinds my gears is a lack of repeatable sidequests.

As a tank I apologize for the dickheads that try and force you to do what you don't want to do just so you can clear the dungeon. I only use the tanking powers bestowed upon me by my paladin fore fathers for the good of the group. I don't care about loot as a paladin and I just want to make sure the healer I'm with gets it done, so I'll do my job with no complaints. The sad thing is I've had to pull the whole, we'll just leave the instance and you will be fucked on a number of bumbling chucklefuck damage dealers. Thankfully they all chose to cooperate in the end.

so you're wanting it to be exactly like 1.0 on the zones. GOD awful COPY PASTA pile of crappy mess. And the Retainers aren't just your sellers they are the ones who hold extra stuff for you. If you have two retainers you can sell 40 different items total.. now lets see to put to reference FFXI which i played for 5 years before playing 1.0 and 2.0 of this game. there was an ah that only allowed you 7-8 items of your choice to sell then you HAD to stay online if you were selling stuff in your bazaar. same goes for other mmo's i've played and have seen other's playing. (IE: Knights, Nexus...). Hmm chocobo issue. I don't have one since I don't try to pull my chocobo out while in DF


Aoe Spells... yeah that's the players choice to use them not SE's they just gave them to them.. I'm sorry you feel that it kills your experience in the game... I hope that none of those aoe attacks saved you because with that even if they do aoe it means less damage that some people have to take.

the loot it used to be 10 gil -100 it's called they wanted to put more value to the gil because there were other players before you started. I'm sorry

Also I don't mind about the whole not able to teleport out of the inn. And yes I'm on a Legacy HIGHLY populated server and leaving the inn doesn't bother me one bit.

btw this is what Gridania's Cluster F*** USED to be like for the Black shroud

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Plenty of things to complain about for this game, but from your list I only agree with 1 and 8. The rest are just stupid whining. Like you had only 1 or 2 things to whine about but wanted to make a list of 10 so had to round it out with a bunch of crybaby crap. Retainers have their advantages and disadvatanges...You can actually keybind reply if you wanted, but you'd rather whine...etc. AOE on fates...you can join a group. Side quests shouldn't be repeatable...bleh. What a rubbish list.

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Originally Posted by Rannie

btw this is what Gridania's Cluster F*** USED to be like for the Black shroud

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Which to some, it might look impressive at first, can't forget that it was all bunch of copy pasted tiny blocks. Had a bit more awe when thought could explore more, until realize 90% of it is same stuff, different mob levels.

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Originally Posted by Rivienne

Well it is just a game play interaction representation. The game could just as easily put your stuff on the board directly without showing a retainer, but then where would the money go? Magically into your pocket wherever you are? That doesn't make sense from an in-world perspective at all. It only makes sense if you are doing the selling directly, or standing by the board or whatever(which would require you to stay online). The addition of the NPC solves the world consistency problem, plus gives some nice perks of extra storage space. I guess I still don't understand. What am I missing? What could they do that wouldn't break world consistency without adding something like the NPC?

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People go to auction houses IRL all the time to have their stuff auctioned off, and they collect their item if it doesn't meet the minimum bid or their money if it sold from the same people, minus a cut for their services.

It doesn't have to go to your pocket book directly. It could be mailed or you could simply go back to the market board to collect your gil. I thought of in like 2 seconds, you don't think that extremely business savvy upper echelons of Ul'dah wouldn't have thought of that? Or anyone on the entire freaking continent? You just merge the retainer selling stuff for you into the market board/switch it to an AH and remove the whole step of having to go to the inn room to summons someone to sell something for you.

Same thing with a bank.

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Originally Posted by Hawklaser

Which to some, it might look impressive at first, can't forget that it was all bunch of copy pasted tiny blocks. Had a bit more awe when thought could explore more, until realize 90% of it is same stuff, different mob levels.

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I know I died more than enough just trying to get to jackanapes and went the wrong path... trust me that picture only show how much of a convoluted mess the black shroud was pre ARR with no zones copy pasta and areas with lvl 60 + mobs same goes for la noscea and thanalan

The thing that bugs me the most is that your target enemy isn't give max priority to be rendered in the world. Everytime I try to do Odin or behemoth I get to target them for 2-3 seconds before they vanish.. If you have an enemy targeted it should have max priority and NEVER stop being rendered just to show some useless player that you're not gonna interact with... Only players Ineed to see are the ones in my party.

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Originally Posted by cfStatic

People go to auction houses IRL all the time to have their stuff auctioned off, and they collect their item if it doesn't meet the minimum bid or their money if it sold from the same people, minus a cut for their services..

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Uhmm. Yeah.. But... I think you are missing something here. I get you don't entirely care about the world environment with this, but in the real world they do this by interacting with other people, as in, the people who run the auction house. Who then do the selling/money management. The only time someone doesn't interact with the people at the auction house is when they send someone to act as Retainer for them... Just like in game. You can't avoid interaction and responsibility. Either you have to interact with someone else who does it for you, or you have to take the responsibility of doing it yourself. Make sense?

I mean when you really look at close, the whole purpose of this games design is to be immersive, you have to interact with people be they real or npc, so the system of selling is supposed to make sense from that stance as well. An automated (well, honestly "magic" is the best way I can think to describe it) board that manages your sales and money for you doesn't make sense in the world environment as it stands.

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Originally Posted by cfStatic

It doesn't have to go to your pocket book directly. It could be mailed or you could simply go back to the market board to collect your gil.

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Okay, but that still requires a go-between with someone. Be it a delivery moogle, or a person at the auction house to give you the money.. So still haven't lost the retainer on this end, just maybe replaced it with the moogle or a different npc you have to go to, instead of who can come to you.

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Originally Posted by cfStatic

You just merge the retainer selling stuff for you into the market board/switch it to an AH and remove the whole step of having to go to the inn room to summons someone to sell something for you.

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You do realize the primary place for summoning the retainer is right by the market boards? Doing so in the Inn is exactly what you describe as a solution a rich person in U'ldah would want, so they don't have to actually go down to the markets themselves. If you do away with the retainer, but somehow merge with the market boards, then now instead of being able to do the selling from your Inn, you would have to take the added step of going to the actual market and interacting with the board anyway. So it actually is less convenient in that sense.

Anyway, I don't mean to be argumentative, but I just don't see a way they could get rid of the retainer without making the system more complicated for the player, or breaking world immersion.

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Originally Posted by cfStatic

You just merge the retainer selling stuff for you into the market board/switch it to an AH and remove the whole step of having to go to the inn room to summons someone to sell something for you.

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You could do that, then you likely get the whole mess of not having your storage and selling locations combined like they are now. I rather like that I can go store all my stuff quickly, and look up the prices of various things I want to sell without having to run to the market board at all during the process. Most other games have the two separated, so unless it is something you just farmed you often have to make a trip to your storage and back to sell something after seeing if it is worth listing at that time. Only time ever need to touch the actual market board is when you are doing pre-gathering research or are looking to buy something.

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Originally Posted by Rivienne

Anyway, I don't mean to be argumentative, but I just don't see a way they could get rid of the retainer without making the system more complicated for the player, or breaking world immersion.

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It used to actually be more complex in v1 than it is currently too. Used to have special zones just for the markets, where peoples retainers actually stood around waiting to sell the items, and no search feature at the start either, so one manually had to go search through a sea of retainers just to find what they were looking for.

If I may add, I find it rather annoying that I don't auto-dismount when I click on an NPC or start attacking a mob. I'm horrible at remembering to click my mount button to dismount, it always trips me up when I'm running FATE groups.

I wish I could "like" the OP a thousand times a thousand times. All are valid complaints that need to be fixed. Not being able to use your bird while waiting in DF is insane. I also as a melee character only truly hate and despise how casters classes can spam AoE in FATES and there is NOTHING I can do to keep up with them tagging all the mobs before I can even swing once at it.

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so you're wanting it to be exactly like 1.0 on the zones.

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No. I said cities, mostly. Having to zone three times inside a city to reach a fairly uncommon area is pretty silly. You're comparing the wilderness and combat areas to the areas which are extremely out-of-the-way in a city, where it makes little sense as to why we need to zone, in order to reach a zone, in order to reach a zone. We know it's done to make it possible for ... lower ... capable hardware to handle it.