Armor Sets would be nice

Armor sets fitting Head, Body, Hands, Legs, Feet, and possibly waist would be nice. I'm not meaning class-specific either. I'm meaning in general.

This is specifically what I mean:

All the pieces are to the same list of classes and the same ranks. The closest to sets is hempen robe and hempen hat, canvas robe and canvas hat. Making armor pieces to make these into sets would be awesome.

And set bonuses too?

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Originally Posted by Reika

And set bonuses too?

Maybe extremely minute ones low ranks, but good ones high rank. And read differently than final fantasy xi to where we understand the sets better.

Hempen Hat
Added text:
"Hempen Robe set, 5 pieces: +1 Magic Attack per set."

and a different bonus:

Trapper's Hat
Added Text:
"Trapper's Tunic set, 5 pieces: +1 Control, +1 Ranged Accuracy per additional piece."

I like the idea, and they played around with it in XI but never really seemed to make it worthwhile on to many items. Lets hope they try it again and maybe add to it with materia.

Agree to both set gear and set bonuses.

I think that every piece of gear should have its respective set.

Crafting sets
Magic sets
Melee sets
Tanking sets
etc.

I would also like to see crafting stats and classes removed from some of the casting gear such as robes and hat for example:-

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Velveteen Hat Hat Base: Undyed Velveteen Finish: Crow Feather Dressing Favors: CON THM WVR ALC CUL BTN Optimal Rank: 36 Attributes Damage Cut Defense 35 Wind 1% Mg. Defense 68 Water 1% Evasion 14 Resilience 50 0 0 0 0 0 0 MP +34 Intelligence +2 Mg. Craftsmanship +13 Control +7 Elemental Resistances +29

This piece of gear should be CON, THM only and WVR ALC CUL BTN should use the coif instead.

There is a distinct lack of shoes/boot for particular classes, add velveteen slippers for mages for example, right now I have to use toadskin shoes which doesn't really suit a mage class lol.

Example
CON, THM
Velveteen Hat
Velevteen Robe
Velveteen Belt
Velveteen Tights
Velveteen Slippers

Bonus to PIE, MND and INT

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Originally Posted by Jinko

Agree to both set gear and set bonuses.

I think that every piece of gear should have its respective set.

Crafting sets
Magic sets
Melee sets
Tanking sets
etc.

I would also like to see crafting stats and classes removed from some of the casting gear such as robes and hat for example:-

Code:

Velveteen Hat Hat Base: Undyed Velveteen Finish: Crow Feather Dressing Favors: CON THM WVR ALC CUL BTN Optimal Rank: 36 Attributes Damage Cut Defense 35 Wind 1% Mg. Defense 68 Water 1% Evasion 14 Resilience 50 0 0 0 0 0 0 MP +34 Intelligence +2 Mg. Craftsmanship +13 Control +7 Elemental Resistances +29

This piece of gear should be CON, THM only and WVR ALC CUL BTN should use the coif instead.

There is a distinct lack of shoes/boot for particular classes, add velveteen slippers for mages for example, right now I have to use toadskin shoes which doesn't really suit a mage class lol.

Example
CON, THM
Velveteen Hat
Velevteen Robe
Velveteen Belt
Velveteen Tights
Velveteen Slippers

Bonus to PIE, MND and INT

I don't like the idea of taking away from any of the armor pieces, even something as small as taking optimum classes away. Maybe make new armor sets that appear more for specific classes, and the set bonuses affect those classes' abilities specifically, such as cures being more effective for CON, or sometimes stunning the target for GLA. But new armor sets I could post as I research what's currently out now and such.

Seriously the sets that do exist in this game feel incomplete to me. Where are my Onion Gloves?

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Originally Posted by KorPoni

I don't like the idea of taking away from any of the armor pieces, even something as small as taking optimum classes away.

Well it needs to be done to :-

Make armor more unique.
Provide relevant stats to the class suitable to that gear.
Encourages classes to use the correct gear.

I would also ask and hope that the devs will make all gear level restricted, I hate the fact that a rank 10 CON can wear a rank 50 chainmail piece.

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Maybe make new armor sets that appear more for specific classes, and the set bonuses affect those classes' abilities specifically, such as cures being more effective for CON, or sometimes stunning the target for GLA. But new armor sets I could post as I research what's currently out now and such.

There is no need to make new armour sets when you can specialise existing armour and add individual pieces to complete the set.

For example:-

Robe/Hat/Tights/Slippers/Gloves (DoW set)
6 Hempen
16 Cotton
26 Canvas
36 Velveteen
46 Linen
48 Vintage

Doublet Vest/Coif/Slops/Pattens/Half-gloves (DoH set)
4 Hempen
14 Cotton
24 Canvas
34 Velveteen
44 Linen

Jerkin/Straw Hat/Culottes/Gaiters/Work-gloves (DOL set)
1 Weathered
17 Sheepskin
27 Dodoskin
37 Leather
47 Tarred Leather

Obviously there would be additional sets, such as Cowl set for mages, Coatee set for crafters

I'm going to make up new sets, or add pieces to make sets complete. Hopefully SE will be looking at these as possible uses. Gotta work today or I'd take the time to now.

But, before I start, I am going to say there will be 1 set per rank (50 sets total), and set bonuses won't activate for classes outside the optimum classes. Meaning, if the set is a crafter's set, it'd be better to use the pieces for a crafter class.

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Originally Posted by Jinko

Doublet Vest/Coif/Slops/Pattens/Half-gloves (DoH set)
4 Hempen
14 Cotton
24 Canvas
34 Velveteen
44 Linen

I prefer the normal Doublet over the doublet vest, Smithy gloves, and Thighboots :) Makes me look like a blacksmith.

There are many different pieces of gear with crafting and battle stats on them. Jerkins and Jackets have Mg Craft, beret's have Control and Mg craft

and there is even the Scale armor with Gathering for fishers...

What I think needs to happen is, more armor needs to have multiple stats for different disciplines to do something with them. I would like to see crafting stats on the Plate Armor, An armorer being empowered by the armor he/she creates. and the funny thing is, Plate armor Favors Armorer >.> but there is no reason for them to actually wear it: no crafting stats.

There is a lot of gear like that that favors certain classes but those classes have absolutely no reason to wear it (Doublets favoring Miner and Botanists, With no gathering stats).

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What I think needs to happen is, more armor needs to have multiple stats for different disciplines to do something with them. I would like to see crafting stats on the Plate Armor, An armorer being empowered by the armor he/she creates. and the funny thing is, Plate armor Favors Armorer >.> but there is no reason for them to actually wear it: no crafting stats.

That's the complete opposite to what I want to happen lol

As I said before Doublet could be a second choice to double vest (but make it Crafting only)

Pointing to the text I highlighted, If you do this it basically means any class can wear any gear, its a massive problem and the devs are looking at the rebalancing and restriction of gear (check the in development sub forum)

What you are suggestion is making armour ever less unique kind of like the whole armoury problem with equipping skills across classes. (its just watering everything down so everyone can be everything and wear everything)

From a role player perspective wearing plate armour to craft would be kind of silly, many times heavier than leather/cloth armour and hard to move in.

Yeah, I'd much rather see either new or reworked gear whose stats and favored classes actually match. There's no need to have a piece of gear that has caster stats but favors PGL, for example.

On the other hand, it is nice to have certain pieces/types of gear (e.g., tabards, slops) that favor All Classes, just to use as leveling gear to save our limited inventory space. That gear probably shouldn't be crafting gear, which I'd rather see marked "Disciples of Land and Hand;" but if it is, oh well, that's even more space saved. . .

Armor sets would be great. I think armor sets would give you a purpose and a goal when you level up to buy all the pieces and look cool. Set bonuses, if done could give you a purpose besides just "looks" to have a whole set.

Sorry this is taking me so long. Been getting more work IRL and RL comes first. I looked through alot of gear to see how sets would match up, and from the way it looks atm SE has 2- or 3-piece sets max atm, with hands and feet not matched up atall with Head, Body, and Hands. This won't stop me from doing what I'm doing, just going to make more work for me.

But, as a heads up and suggestion from other players looking into this, how about 4 level 1 sets, one for each Discipline (War, Magic, Hands, Land), then a set per level starting at 5? The way things are looking I may make up completely new pieces for the full sets, but I myself would rather see alot of currently-released armor be added to to make sets.

Also, R01-R10, set bonuses would be extremely small to keep balance, maybe +1 to 3 different attributes or +2 to one, then increase by 1 every 10 ranks (+2 to 3 different attributes or +4 to one R11-20/ +3 to 3, or +4 to 2, or +6 to 1 at R21-30/etc.)

Set bonuses could work on a set % across all levels, similar to the light party/full party bonus works, this way SE doesn't need to add specific bonuses to every set of gear, as long as you are wearing the full set you would get the bonus.

Say for example:-

[Buff name]
You are currently receiving a bonus for wearing an armour set, all bonus stats are increased by 10%.

Something worth mentioning, there is a lot of unimplemented gear according to http://www.ffxivpro.com, so SE no doubt plan to add these eventually.

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Felt Doublet 1 Attire Felt Doublet (Blue) 1 Attire Felt Doublet (Brown) 1 Attire Felt Doublet (Red) 1 Attire Felt Doublet (Teal) 1 Attire Felt Hat 1 Hat Felt Hat (Blue) 1 Hat Felt Hat (Brown) 1 Hat Felt Hat (Red) 1 Hat Felt Hat (Teal) 1 Hat Felt Robe 1 Attire Felt Robe (Blue) 1 Attire Felt Robe (Brown) 1 Attire Felt Robe (Red) 1 Attire Felt Robe (Teal) 1 Attire Felt Tabard 1 War Garb Felt Tabard (Blue) 1 War Garb Felt Tabard (Brown) 1 War Garb Felt Tabard (Red) 1 War Garb Felt Tabard (Teal) 1 War Garb Linen Doublet 1 Attire Linen Doublet (Blue) 1 Attire Linen Doublet (Brown) 1 Attire Linen Doublet (Pink) 1 Attire Linen Doublet (Yellow) 1 Attire Linen Robe 1 Attire Linen Robe (Blue) 1 Attire Linen Robe (Brown) 1 Attire Linen Robe (Pink) 1 Attire Linen Robe (Yellow) 1 Attire Linen Trousers 1 Pants Linen Trousers (Blue) 1 Pants Linen Trousers (Brown) 1 Pants Linen Trousers (Pink) 1 Pants Linen Trousers (Yellow) 1 Pants Woolen Doublet 1 Attire Woolen Doublet (Black) 1 Attire Woolen Doublet (Grey) 1 Attire Woolen Doublet (Red) 1 Attire Woolen Doublet (Violet) 1 Attire Woolen Hat 1 Hat Woolen Hat (Black) 1 Hat Woolen Hat (Grey) 1 Hat Woolen Hat (Red) 1 Hat Woolen Hat (Violet) 1 Hat Woolen Robe 1 Attire Woolen Robe (Black) 1 Attire Woolen Robe (Grey) 1 Attire Woolen Robe (Red) 1 Attire Woolen Robe (Violet) 1 Attire Wyrmskin Smithy's Gloves 1 Gloves Wyrmskin Thighboots 1 Shoes Velveteen Dalmatica (Yellow) 1 Attire Velveteen Dalmatica (Red) 1 Attire Velveteen Dalmatica (Green) 1 Attire Velveteen Dalmatica (Black) 1 Attire Velveteen Dalmatica 1 Attire Darksteel Celata 1 Helm Darksteel Celata (Gold) 1 Helm Darksteel Celata (White) 1 Helm Darksteel Cuirass 1 Full Plate Darksteel Cuirass (Gold) 1 Full Plate Darksteel Cuirass (White) 1 Full Plate Darksteel Eyeguards (Green) 1 Eyewear Darksteel Eyeguards (Red) 1 Eyewear Darksteel Gauntlet 1 Gauntlets Darksteel Gauntlet (Gold) 1 Gauntlets Darksteel Gauntlet (White) 1 Gauntlets Darksteel Sabatons 1 Greaves Iron Spectacles 1 Eyewear Iron Spectacles (Yellow) 1 Eyewear Kobold Iron Celata 1 Helm Kobold Iron Celata (Blue) 1 Helm Kobold Iron Celata (Purple) 1 Helm Kobold Iron Cuirass 1 Full Plate Kobold Iron Cuirass (Blue) 1 Full Plate Kobold Iron Cuirass (Purple) 1 Full Plate Kobold Iron Gauntlets 1 Gauntlets Kobold Iron Gauntlets (Blue) 1 Gauntlets Kobold Iron Gauntlets (Purple) 1 Gauntlets Kobold Iron Tassets 1 Belt Ash Mask 1 Mask Elm Mask 1 Mask Leather Vizard 1 Mask Leather Vizard (Green) 1 Mask Leather Vizard (Ochre) 1 Mask Leather Vizard (Red) 1 Mask Maple Mask 1 Mask Mythril Celata 1 Helm Mythril Cuirass 1 Full Plate Mythril Gauntlets 1 Gauntlets Boarskin Gloves 1 Gloves Boarskin Thighboots 1 Shoes Boarskin Thighboots (Beige) 1 Shoes Boarskin Thighboots (Blue) 1 Shoes Boarskin Thighboots (Brown) 1 Shoes Boarskin Thighboots (Red) 1 Shoes Goobbueskin Smithy's Gloves 1 Gloves Goobbueskin Thighboots 1 Shoes Pince-nez 1 Eyewear Pince-nez (Black) 1 Eyewear Raptorskin Smithy's Gloves 1 Gloves Raptorskin Thighboots 1 Shoes Rope Belt (White) 1 Sash

I don't know, nor am I going to worry about, what SE actually plans to do about armor sets. But, after careful thought, I have a plan that would be fun to implement, whether or not it will be practical.

Here's how my plan works:
Every armor piece for the sets will be self-made. They can be altered names of the same pieces, or another tier of a pre-existing piece. The stats won't be any different except the name, and the set bonus.

Set bonuses will apply ONLY to the classes listed next to the set bonus. Here's an example:
"CON, THM - Old Robe set, 5 pieces: Magic Accuracy +2"
"ALC, CUL, GLD, WVR - Old Robe set, 5 pieces: Control +2"

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Originally Posted by Jinko

That's the complete opposite to what I want to happen lol

As I said before Doublet could be a second choice to double vest (but make it Crafting only)

Pointing to the text I highlighted, If you do this it basically means any class can wear any gear, its a massive problem and the devs are looking at the rebalancing and restriction of gear (check the in development sub forum)

What you are suggestion is making armour ever less unique kind of like the whole armoury problem with equipping skills across classes. (its just watering everything down so everyone can be everything and wear everything)

From a role player perspective wearing plate armour to craft would be kind of silly, many times heavier than leather/cloth armour and hard to move in.

They can do good to remove the favored classes that have no reason wearing it then ^^. Like right now Doublet's and Smithy gloves have Miner and botanist favored on them, yet no gathering skills. I was simply implying that armor that is already like this have stats added to them for those select few favored classes, else remove those favored classes that have no reason to wear it. There is armor already like this, like robes, berets, halfgloves, Armguards, jackets, jerkins, voyager's belt... They have either crafting/battle crafting/gather, or gather/battle stats on them. I use a Jerkin for my marauder, and all 3 gather classes. Wont hurt to fix the other armors up the same way.

You use a jerkin on your MRD,

/sighs, this is exactly my point lol, each to their own i guess.

XI had lots of matching sets that were graphically part of a set but individually were not dependant on each other.

My favorites the Unicorn Harness.

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Originally Posted by Cairdeas

XI had lots of matching sets that were graphically part of a set but individually were not dependant on each other.

My favorites the Unicorn Harness.

They also had a few armor sets that fully benefitted off having multiple pieces of the same set, or others that benefitted only by having the complete set.