My Gamebreaking Issues

Hey guys,

due to the following issues the game is having, I simply can not continue having fun playing.

1. Animations block actions.
2. Battle is way too unresponsive. I can almost cast 1s spells while running.
3. Instant spells are not instant.
4. Boss AoE attacks + animations are badly out of sync.

This lag is not caused by "bad" internet connection. I talked to couple Canadian people with 20-30ms and they are having the same issues.
It's the intended built-in lag SE put in for some reason.


Please note that I'm in no way complaining about anything, just stating my opinion why I can't enjoy this game any longer. As there is no Feedback forum for the game, I'm just gonna post this here.

its just you, i dont have these issues.

I live in Ottawa and subscribe to Rogers cable Extreme Plus.

1. Animations block actions.
PK: Yes I see this for skills not on GCD. I have to wait about 1 second before I can use this.

2. Battle is way too unresponsive. I can almost cast 1s spells while running.
PK: Never encountered this problem.

3. Instant spells are not instant.
PK: Never encountered this problem. My instant abilities are instant.

4. Boss AoE attacks + animations are badly out of sync.
PK: Never encountered this problem. All aoe animitions I had to avoid as tank seem pretty accurate.

Sorry to hear that. Ill have fun for the both of us :)

it is NOT just him. This is the way the game works currently.
"Animations block actions" is not something that even CAN vary from player to player, its the game. And it makes combat a LOT less fun. In fact, the only thing that could possibly be "just him" is #4, and thats not just him.

Jasdemi your post summed up the MAJOR problems left in this game perfectly. If they can fix this stuff the game would be 100x better.

I've never experienced #3, but I've seen the others a number of times. They're annoying, but I've gotten used to playing with them.
Would be fantastic if SE adjusted the combat engine to fix this stuff, though.

I can categorically state that animations have never blocked actions for me.. I play an Archer so any of that pish would stick out a mile.

Plus, internet connections DO NOT cause graphical lag. Crap gaming rigs do..

Thanks.

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Originally Posted by Norbi

I've never experienced #3, but I've seen the others a number of times. They're annoying, but I've gotten used to playing with them.
Would be fantastic if SE adjusted the combat engine to fix this stuff, though.

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I think he meant like...for example stun (a supposedly instant-ish off-gdc ability) is only semi off-gdc and not rly instant.

Anway, OP I and majority of other guildies of mine hear you bout AOE lag. We usually blame it on the good choice of server placement for EU players /sarcasm.

It's not just him. It looks like in SE's efforts to democratize the game for all the players that were originally locked out due to AFK and artificially low server limits, they are exposing some game design weaknesses with the large user counts of 7500 per world. Hopefully when the extra battlegroup, three new servers, server transfers and trial period players quit, the game gets back to the better network throughput I became accustomed to during closed beta and balances the population better.

Yes, game engines do cause graphical glitches. With a high end rig I became accustomed to a very snappy response, and as of about two days ago, chocobo and FATE movements have become jerky. It feels like client sampling has been decreased in frequency due to network bandwidth limitations.

I'm not angry. I'm not trying to start anything. But it's a little annoying on these forums that so many people are dismissive of legitimate complaints they simply haven't seen. (Monty Python)We should be fighting together.... but we are fighting together.

The AOE lag is just another dynamic that I don't try to talk about because I (used to) have a pretty good ping and am not Oceanic. I'd never try to tell someone they don't have it.

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Originally Posted by Wolfhammer

I can categorically state that animations have never blocked actions for me.. I play an Archer so any of that pish would stick out a mile.

Plus, internet connections DO NOT cause graphical lag. Crap gaming rigs do..

Thanks.

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cast Heavy Shot and then IMMEDIATELY try to use Bloodletter. or Repelling Shot. or Blunt Arrow.
You will NOT be able to use any of these off-GCD abilities until the animation for Heavy Shot finishes (it takes ~1 full second)
This is not just Heavy Shot but really any attack with an animation.

cast Raging Strikes and then IMMEDIATELY try to cast Barrage.
Both of these are instant with no GCD, but you will have to wait until the animation for Raging Strikes is done before you can cast Barrage (again, around 1-1.5 seconds)

These issues have NOTHING to do with gaming rig. Its the way the game is built.

I'm also suffering of all these issues and finding them very annoying, while we are at it I would also like to add that I can't stand Blizzard 3 sound effect, I hope we will have a fix asap :)

I haven't experienced problems #1-3 probably because I haven't played with the classes/jobs that use the mechanics. #4 hasn't been an issue for me either. Although, after the recent maintenance I have been experiences some lag with the game in certain areas.

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I can categorically state that animations have never blocked actions for me.. I play an Archer so any of that pish would stick out a mile.

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I play Archer as well, currently level 45. Although it's not my main class, I *have* seen this. I've lost count of the number of times I've hit Heavy Shot and then immediately hit Bloodletter--and Bloodletter doesn't go off. It doesn't show as not ready or anything. It just doesn't happen. I have consistently had to wait a second or so to successfully execute the Bloodletter. I'm not sure I'd call it "gamebreaking" but it's certainly annoying.

To people who are saying that they don't experience #3: you're full of it or simply aren't paying attention.

Every person in my FC/LS has this problem. There is an odd delay on boss abilities (red zone telegraphed attacks) of about .5 seconds, meaning you can be out of the red area before the cast bar finishes and you will still get hit. The same applies to supposedly "instant" abilities like Shroud of Saints, though some instant abilities always work, well, instantly, such as the WHM 30% healing buff. This is a major issue that needs to be fixed.

Easy way to test #2: keep running and try to call your chocobo. The cast bar will nearly finish before it says interrupted.

I love this game, and I'm coping with these issues. However, they most certainly exist. If they were to resolve these 4 issues, this game would be so so so much awesomer.

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Originally Posted by Conradus

I play Archer as well, currently level 45. Although it's not my main class, I *have* seen this. I've lost count of the number of times I've hit Heavy Shot and then immediately hit Bloodletter--and Bloodletter doesn't go off. It doesn't show as not ready or anything. It just doesn't happen. I have consistently had to wait a second or so to successfully execute the Bloodletter. I'm not sure I'd call it "gamebreaking" but it's certainly annoying.

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Wait, are people actualy complaining they can't shoot at the same time while shooting... Doesn't it make sense to not be able to do an action while the animation is playing? So I'm using Heavy Shot currently (holding my bow and arrow, aiming it and releasing) and while doing that I should be able to use Bloodletter which is another shot with the same bow? Should bloodletter be used instantly while I'm still aiming for Heavy Shot? smh

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Originally Posted by Badger

There is an odd delay on boss abilities (red zone telegraphed attacks) of about .5 seconds, meaning you can be out of the red area before the cast bar finishes and you will still get hit.

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My first titan run (story, not hard mode), one of the players kept getting knocked off even though he said he was clear. Most of us didn't believe him, so i watched. He seemed clear by a good amount, then flew off. Happened to me only once though, so no clue what is causing this some times and not others. Here is a good youtube of someone showing it, not me by the way: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5g4TM1fkCg

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Originally Posted by Jasdemi

1. Animations block actions.
2. Battle is way too unresponsive. I can almost cast 1s spells while running.

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Number 1 i've gotten used to, just means you can't spam actions, and have to actually pace yourself. I kind of like it now, plus, if you aren't spamming, you can queue up attacks around half a second before the animation would stop.
Number 2 i've noticed a bit of, not a full second by any stretch, but a little. If i have to move out of an attack, and it's getting close to being cast, it sometimes goes off.