Will PS4 ARR require a PS+ subscription? The question nobody's answering

The "free" upgrade is going to come at a cost. Sony and Square Enix have dodged this question every single time they could. Is a PS+ subscription required to play FF14 on PS4? If yes, i'm sticking with ps3. I don't need to pay two subscriptions just to be able to play this game thank you.

This is actually a pretty big deal breaker to most of us.

I believe when PS4 was announced they said all things online for PS4 requires PS+

Did Xbox players need a subscription to xbox live for Final Fantasy XI?

That should answer it.

Most likely not. All F2P games as well as TESO won't require PS+ to play online so I would assume Square Enix and Sony do the same with this as well.

edit: err scratch that, Bethesda is trying to remove the PS+ requirement, but judging from how Sony is handling things in general, I would assume it's something they would be okay with doing.

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Originally Posted by AccountBanned

Did Xbox players need a subscription to xbox live for Final Fantasy XI?

That should answer it.

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No. you could play on silver

I agree with choochoo i highly doubt FFXIV will require PS+, only the regular sub fee

It was already confirmed months ago by Shuhei Yoshida that all PS4 MMO's that have a subscription based requirement wont be required to have PS+

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Originally Posted by Xeth

It was already confirmed months ago by Shuhei Yoshida that all PS4 MMO's that have a subscription based requirement wont be required to have PS+

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Actually its the other way around. Sony said, no f2p MMO will need ps plus. All other online games will.

I'd be shocked if they didn't work around that. Sony should know that if they want MMOs on their console this is how it has to be.

I have no issues with needing to pay for PS+ nor FFXIV: ARR on the PS4 (assuming I even play that version), I was already planning on paying for PS+, FFXIV: ARR and Elder Scrolls Online as I will have PS+ by default.

So I wouldn't say it's really a "deal breaker."

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Originally Posted by rocco1986

Actually its the other way around. Sony said, no f2p MMO will need ps plus. All other online games will.

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Actually, he said it's up to the MMO publishers, in which case, Yoshi-P has said previously shortly after the PS4 reveal and "Crystals Call" trailer came out, that they wont be requiring it. All OTHER online games (like CoD/GTA/Killzone etc) will need PS+.
I mean think about it, why would anyone want to pay three times (purchase, sub and PS+) with two on-going subs? The only thing I know that does that is Xbox Live + Netflix (and other streaming services on Xbox).

No clue but honestly, with all that PlayStation Plus offers and for the little that it costs, it's well worth getting IMO.

FFXIV is not free to play, therefore you will need a PS+ subscription (existing or new). Not sure how hard that was to understand...

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Originally Posted by Diavolo

FFXIV is not free to play, therefore you will need a PS+ subscription (existing or new). Not sure how hard that was to understand...

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Please, I'm on my mobile and wont be able to get to my computer for some time, and I think my daily post limit is coming up, but look online, a quick search for "Yoshi P Xbox" or "PS+ Xbox ARR" along those lines, you will find an interview with Yoshi-P himself saying that PS+ is NOT NEEDED for ARR to be playable on the PS4... everyone in this thread saying otherwise needs to STOP spreading false information.

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Originally Posted by rocco1986

Actually its the other way around. Sony said, no f2p MMO will need ps plus. All other online games will.

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Nope, you misread it. I did too, and so did many others. You should go back and reread it.

All MMO's on PS4 can be played without a PS+ sub fee.

Since the PS4 isn't out, the PS4 version of the game doesn't exist, and my lack of clairvoyance make it difficult for me to answer this question. I do know that it will be likely something that Square and Sony will work out.

This is nice news if true, and I understand some people will not want to have to subscribe to PS+, but even then saying "most of us" is probably innacurate - I'd imagine quite a lot of us will be happy to get PS+ anyway just because it looks like a good service. FFXIV is most definitely not the only PS4 game I'll be playing!

Im pretty sure they sumwhat answered your question before. Sony, Not SE, said that they will not require PSN+ to games with a sub. However, they leave that option up to the Devs of the game.

http://www.psu.com/a019831/Some-PS4-...or-online-play

The whole shinanigans with Xbox and FFXI was because of Microsoft Policy and SE had to go with it if they wanted FFXI to be on the 360.

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Originally Posted by Xeth

Please, I'm on my mobile and wont be able to get to my computer for some time, and I think my daily post limit is coming up, but look online, a quick search for "Yoshi P Xbox" or "PS+ Xbox ARR" along those lines, you will find an interview with Yoshi-P himself saying that PS+ is NOT NEEDED for ARR to be playable on the PS4... everyone in this thread saying otherwise needs to STOP spreading false information.

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I didn't say Yoshi said anything or didn't say anything. I was going based off what Sony said. If something to the contrary has been said, then I don't know about it and don't mind being wrong. Calm your tits.

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Originally Posted by AccountBanned

Did Xbox players need a subscription to xbox live for Final Fantasy XI?

That should answer it.

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This is because Microsoft needed help entering the Japanese market. They made the deal with Square to be excluded from the Gold membership in order to attract players from PS2 to 360 since PS3 wasn't an option minus a few gen one systems. You could be certain should Microsoft be able to pick up FFXIV that Gold will be required.

they have already answered that question you DO NOT need a Playstation Plus membership to play games that require a SUB to play (example Final Fantasy) .... you asking in the WRONG forums you should be on the PLAYSTATION Fourms asking this question

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Originally Posted by Eunys

This is because Microsoft needed help entering the Japanese market. They made the deal with Square to be excluded from the Gold membership in order to attract players from PS2 to 360 since PS3 wasn't an option minus a few gen one systems. You could be certain should Microsoft be able to pick up FFXIV that Gold will be required.

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And that is why there was no XIV on the 360. Square wanted nothing to do with Microsoft's premium service and still don't because it's a big middle finger being waved in player's faces. Sega had to swallow that pill with PSO on the Xbox and PSU on the 360 because they don't have quite the same clout as Square. There was also Microsoft's demand that XI on the 360 be on it's own servers because of their dislike of Sony's consoles but, again, Square wasn't going to have it. I'm sure Microsoft would have wanted the same over XIV.

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One thing that did stand out was that he gave a fantastic reply when asked about PS Plus requirements for games like Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn & Elder Scrolls Online, to which he said that "You will need it to enjoy online multiplayer. This will also depend on the judgement by the publishers, and there will be some free to play titles that you’ll be able to play without needing a PS Plus subscription, like PlanetSide 2 and DC Universe Online."

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So it would seem we will have to wait and see what happens. Until it is in writing an Squares website for now the answer is nobody knows for 100% sure.

It's been stated several times, but Shuhei Yoshida himself has officially stated multiple times that the publishers will decide for games like MMOs that require an additional subscription fee. The only games that will require PS+ are games like Destiny, Street Fighter, Call of Duty, etc... Stuff with regular, non-subscription based online multiplayer.

Free upgrade from PS3, no PS+ will be required. Playstation XIV gamers will be just fine.

Sony said all free to play MMOs on PS4 will not require PS+, but they didn't say anything about paid ones. Nobody knows the answer except for Sony and SE they haven't announced anything yet so just going to have to wait.

I highly doubt PS+ will even scratch the sub fee that XIV has. On PS3 it's incredibly cheap for what you get and much better value for money than even Xbox Live because you get free games every month etc. I'm definitely not concerned either way because if I only wanted a PS4 for XIV, I'd spend the money upgrading my PC now instead. I doubt they'll make it necessary to have another subscription but you never know.

I know I'm sticking with the PS3 version for now. Until the PS4 gets games I actually want I'm not even giving it a first thought.

It's not Sony who decide which MMO is PS+ required, they let the game publishers choose. The MMOs that were announced free are all Sony produces. No other MMO from 3rd pt that require PS+ has been announced yet.

And those MMOs which already had their subscriptions plan (FF14) will have nothing to do with PS+, cause ppl still have to add credit on the game's main websites, not PS store. PSO2 is a clear example.

PS4 will most likely not require PS+ for FFARR... as seen in the description of the PS4.. "certain MMO's will not require PS+ as they already cost subscription fee" ... cant be 100% sure .. but i guess FF would fall under this

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Originally Posted by Noroi_Kisaragi

The "free" upgrade is going to come at a cost. Sony and Square Enix have dodged this question every single time they could. Is a PS+ subscription required to play FF14 on PS4? If yes, i'm sticking with ps3. I don't need to pay two subscriptions just to be able to play this game thank you.

This is actually a pretty big deal breaker to most of us.

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You can always keep using the ps3 version if you aren't willing to get PS+.

In an interview with Yoshi p he said they will look into it, and it's up to SE not Sony. but i have a felling FF14ARR won't need PS+.

IMO, i dont think it matters too much anyway, 1 year for ps+ works out at like £3 a month. Plus all the other additional benefits on ps+. I spend more than that on a sandwich -.-

PS+ is a premium service for game companies that cannot maintain a network backbone of their own, yet want to use it.

Guess what? SE has two data centers and dedicated network resources designed around XIV. PS+ usage is comically unnecessary, and therefore a moot topic.

So judging by the replies in this thread, absolutely nobody knows for sure what the answer is.

This is all the more reason Sony and SE need to set the record straight on this.

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Originally Posted by Xmbei

I believe when PS4 was announced they said all things online for PS4 requires PS+

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That is not what was said at all. They said free to play online games would NOT require PS+. Pay to play games is really down to the communication betwen the developer and Sony. Sony have said they can allow for pay to play games to not require PS+. Square stated when the PS4 game was announced that this is something they are currently discussing with Sony.

I can't wait till ps4 ff14 comes out, remote play in the bathroom at work!

Nowadays, it's not really worth getting a console if you already have decent PC hardware.

Most AAA console titles are developed cross-platform, which includes the PC. Simply hook up a xbox 360 wireless adapter and plug your video card into an hdtv and blammo, you get the same experience you would have on a real xbox-- except better graphics.

A console's only selling point in today's market is how many true exclusives it has (not to be confused with time-limited exclusives), and how well it ties together other media into a solid experience.

If you ask me, Steam's "big picture" is going a long way to closing the gap the last generation consoles had in that regard.

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The funny thing is, that argument has been there since the first days consoles were introduced to the world, and look at how much they've sold now...

The 1st pt games & other exclusives from Japanese devs alone give enough reasons for me to get a console, cause there will be no way in hell those titles would come to PC. And I would say, as a gamer who just enjoy playing games, you're missing out alot, other than multi-platforms AAA cashcows

And for those who still thinking PS+ is just about paid online service, this is the list of all the free games ppl got in their 1st year, all for $50
http://i2.wp.com/69.195.124.109/~wat...r-one-2013.jpg

If you already decided on buying a PS console, just go for it, there's nothing to regret

I usually buy Nintendo hardware because of 1st party; MS and Sony, so far, has not brought anything to the table for me personally to run out and pick up the next gen.

Perhaps I am just getting jaded paying $10 more for the same title, the lack of super bargain bin sales (steam), and having to have a sub on top of that.

It's up to Square-Enix. Sony has given the option to MMO publishers if they wish to have the MMORPG fall under subscription for the network itself.

Considering how SE wants players, I very much doubt they would request their game be under PS+