This maintainance fixes nothing for current players

What exactly is it going to do for full worlds? You can\\'t transfer to a new server. Unless you start again your stuck on a full server. People will just roll alts on these new servers and clog them up cause they can\\'t get on there main server. There must be thousands of wasted characters on the different worlds. Tommorrow = 1017. If I\\'m wrong let me know, but I can\\'t see how this (tonights maintainance as explained by Yoshi) changes my inability to login problems.

We can only hope that SE offers some kind of free migration to fill up the new servers.
Other than that, I know that they mention they will look into an AFK timer in case the new servers doesn't fix the current 1017 issue.

Someome that translated what yoshi said( in japanese) said that he said he is expanding existing server capacity and that the english translation on the forums is bad. So... We will see i guess

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Someome that translated what yoshi said( in japanese) said that he said he is expanding existing server capacity and that the english translation on the forums is bad. So... We will see i guess

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Ok we'll that's some good news if its true. The maintainance notes never mentioned a server cap increase.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/f...s-Restrictions

Someone linked another website. Check the threeads, it was mentioned a few hours ago.

Lets understand what the 1017 error is about.

During early access, we did not have any restrictions on logins, yet the server did not crash accepting everyone, the only issue was when people started using the duty finder / instances a lot, which the duty finder server could not handle (instances are located in a separate server as I have understood, hence the server was online while duty finder was not available / failing).

Now, why did they add restrictions exactly? Basically to control how many people could use the duty finder and instances at a time, to be safe they added a hard number lock on the logins, which is why it shows up the 1017 "the world is full" message.

Tomorrow's update will upgrade the duty finder, I am not certain it will fix the duty finder stability, I want to believe it will. But one thing is for sure, tomorrow after the update, people will start getting fewer 1017 errors, since, they'd be lifting little by little the restrictions in order to keep it controlled until it is safe to let everyone in.

The new servers are for people that want to play yet have found most servers full (most of the NA/EU servers are full, not talking of the 1017 error here). They are most likely adding new servers because there's still people pending to create a new character and to avoid them getting on the already full servers, they're enabling more. This if I recall correctly is the second time it happens, from phase 4-early access-release.

Let's hope they know what they are doing, and hope the server is stable after the upgrades.

Posted in another thread.

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We would like to make a clarification regarding our previous announcement “Regarding Congestion in Japan Data Center Worlds (Aug. 27)” in which we stated that we are preparing to increase the capacity of our data centers.

The first half of the announcement regarding login and character creation restrictions was directed towards our players who would be playing during peak hours in Japan data center Worlds.

However, the second half of the announcement regarding increasing the capacity of our data centers was meant to also encompass North American and European data center Worlds and not just be limited to Japan data center Worlds.

We deeply apologize for causing concern amongst the North American and European community due to our lack of clarity. Capacity will be increased for data centers in all regions.

Once again, thank you for your understanding and cooperation to help us welcome more players to the game.

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Not complaining but i really hope this douse fix the issues we have been having with logging in as spending a couple of hours logging in, just to be kicked out of the server as soon as you zone is a little much to handle XD

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Lets understand what the 1017 error is about.

During early access, we did not have any restrictions on logins, yet the server did not crash accepting everyone, the only issue was when people started using the duty finder / instances a lot, which the duty finder server could not handle (instances are located in a separate server as I have understood, hence the server was online while duty finder was not available / failing).

Now, why did they add restrictions exactly? Basically to control how many people could use the duty finder and instances at a time, to be safe they added a hard number lock on the logins, which is why it shows up the 1017 "the world is full" message.

Tomorrow's update will upgrade the duty finder, I am not certain it will fix the duty finder stability, I want to believe it will. But one thing is for sure, tomorrow after the update, people will start getting fewer 1017 errors, since, they'd be lifting little by little the restrictions in order to keep it controlled until it is safe to let everyone in.

The new servers are for people that want to play yet have found most servers full (most of the NA/EU servers are full, not talking of the 1017 error here). They are most likely adding new servers because there's still people pending to create a new character and to avoid them getting on the already full servers, they're enabling more. This if I recall correctly is the second time it happens, from phase 4-early access-release.

Let's hope they know what they are doing, and hope the server is stable after the upgrades.

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Great observation on the Duty Finder part. I think that's their whole plan right now.
To get into further details, as it is right now, there is one server pool for Duty Finder, all servers connect to the same server instance. What they have scheduled for the upcoming maintenance is to set up more Duty Finder servers and split the game servers into multiple pools instead of having a huge one.
Since each separate Duty Finder server will be able to handle about as much as they can now, you can understand that adding more of these will allow SE let more people in on the servers and not crash the Duty Finder server.

Random number examples that might make it easier to understand.
If current DF server can handle 250k people without crashing, they only let 250k people in on all their game servers.
Now if they set up one or two more DF servers that can handle ~200k each. That means they should be able to let a total of ~650k people in on their game servers. But of course, looking into each game server, they have a limit as well but I'm sure it's way higher than what they are limiting them right now to.

Data Center Capacity =/= World Capacity.

They are adding new worlds, which will result in more players than their current duty finder servers can handle. Thus they are splitting the worlds into multiple groups, with their own duty finders.

This doesn't change the fact that the current worlds can only handle ~5000 players concurrently without suffering major stability issues, lag, etc.

So... the full realms stay full. People still can't log into them. New realms are created - people who can't log into their current servers roll alts there. But they aren't playing their mains, or able to play with their friends, or have to start over - because SE hasn't said anything about forcing server splits to distribute their current players to a larger pool of worlds, nor are they offering any free migrations to those new worlds - and the paid character transfer service isn't expected for weeks.

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Data Center Capacity =/= World Capacity.

They are adding new worlds, which will result in more players than their current duty finder servers can handle. Thus they are splitting the worlds into multiple groups, with their own duty finders.

This doesn't change the fact that the current worlds can only handle ~5000 players concurrently without suffering major stability issues, lag, etc.

So... the full realms stay full. People still can't log into them. New realms are created - people who can't log into their current servers roll alts there. But they aren't playing their mains, or able to play with their friends, or have to start over - because SE hasn't said anything about forcing server splits to distribute their current players to a larger pool of worlds, nor are they offering any free migrations to those new worlds - and the paid character transfer service isn't expected for weeks.

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You're wrong, the servers can handle more people than they are limiting right now. Duty Finder was the bottleneck when that limit wasn't there, I was experiencing barely any lag, it was just rare occasions (and I'm from EU playing on NA server).

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You're wrong, the servers can handle more people than they are limiting right now. Duty Finder was the bottleneck when that limit wasn't there, I was experiencing barely any lag, it was just rare occasions (and I'm from EU playing on NA server).

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Wrong, huh?

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The Reasoning behind Login Restrictions

Each FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn World server has been designed to support a maximum of 5,000 concurrent connections. This is not the maximum number of characters which can be created on a World, however, but the maximum number of characters which can be logged into that World simultaneously. When more than 5,000 characters log into a World at once, there is a higher risk of server crashes and login errors. The restoration of crashed servers is usually followed by a rush of players attempting to log back in, which, in turn, puts a strain on our lobby server, and can ultimately have an adverse affect on all of the Worlds.

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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/73680?p=1111872#post1111872

/sigh seriously OP? your complaining saying something isnt gonna work and they havent even done it yet? whats with people these days? Seriously you need to chill out and just wait for the maintenance then make your little judgements after its done and if it isnt fix. Stop jumping the gun assuming it wont work before they have even done anything yet cause you dont know that it wont work

What everyone here fails to mention, login queues. It's so freaking simple, apply a login queue and most frustrations will be gone.
I don't mind being in a 10k queue, at least I know it's going somewhere, what I do mind is having to spam the login button over and over again and getting some bogus 'world full' message every time.

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What everyone here fails to mention, login queues. It's so freaking simple, apply a login queue and most frustrations will be gone.
I don't mind being in a 10k queue, at least I know it's going somewhere, what I do mind is having to spam the login button over and over again and getting some bogus 'world full' message every time.

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+100000000000
Log in queues comeback.
I can wait it,Log in 1 time 2000 queues wait 3 hr.
but i dont want to press 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0..... 10000 time.

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Wrong, huh?




http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...72#post1111872

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Considering the amout of people you see on, the worlds are capped at less than 5,000 at the moment.

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What everyone here fails to mention, login queues. It's so freaking simple, apply a login queue and most frustrations will be gone.
I don't mind being in a 10k queue, at least I know it's going somewhere, what I do mind is having to spam the login button over and over again and getting some bogus 'world full' message every time.

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There is a queue, it just only supports a number of people just like servers. If it is currently at that number it just kicks you out with an error.

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Each FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn World server has been designed to support a maximum of 5,000 concurrent connections. This is not the maximum number of characters which can be created on a World, however, but the maximum number of characters which can be logged into that World simultaneously. When more than 5,000 characters log into a World at once, there is a higher risk of server crashes and login errors. The restoration of crashed servers is usually followed by a rush of players attempting to log back in, which, in turn, puts a strain on our lobby server, and can ultimately have an adverse affect on all of the Worlds.

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I suspect this is to prevent it from crashing as well.

I was actually wondering this myself, as I've read so many different posts the information was all starting to meld together, and I wasn't sure what the maintenance was exactly going to do.

Now just gotta be patient til 8pm tomorrow night to see if I can play (for us here in Aus anyway)

http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...e82cc49c2b3d66

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Just sayin'

They need to implement an AFK auto disconnect. Been trying to log on since 8am on the east coast. I'm about 150% sure about 3,000-3,500 of the people currently on the server causing this are sleeping or on their way to work/school right now.

I think at this point, they are more interested in people who just bought the game being able to get on, and allowing them to reinstate the digital downloads. That way they get more $$$ from selling fresh copies and when subscription time rolls around. Let's face it, this game has been in the hole far too long and I have a feeling Yoshi-P is being pressured from higher up to get more people/sales before fixing the current log in issues on existing servers.

What they seem to not realize, however, is that they will be losing money when the current players quit because they are pissed they can't get on.

Personally, I think we'll still be playing the 1017 mini game on Wednesday. Who needs Tetra Master when you have this, right?

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To resolve this issue, we will be performing maintenance from September 3, 2013, at 5:00 p.m. to September 4, 2013, at 3:00 a.m (PDT), for the purpose of increasing the number of available Worlds, reducing stress on the Duty Finder servers, and increasing the number of concurrent logins allowed for each server.

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http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...afea11e7c857de

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How much of these threads could be solved if people read what SE posted. They already addressed the AFK issue, and said they would get to it after they fixed capacity of the game.

also they said they were increasing the server capacity as well as adding more servers. I mean you just need to check the lodestone or twitter. Anyways to list a few things. SE is increasing server capacity, Adding more servers, splitting duty finder up so it wont get over loaded, allowing server transfers mid September, Resuming Digital purchases after maintenance, and designing an AFK kicker, charging for subscriptions when trial ends, first of which veteran rewards is a 1 time complete character re customization available for every character. everything I listed was said by SE through one article or another. Please see if SE addresses the issues before you go posting. I usually just like to read threads but its getting painfully annoying the last few days at people griping and complaining because they are under informed when the information is RIGHT in front of them.

Just an announced restart would do it. They can't log back in if they are not there to do it. Not sure where the teams common sense is. Probably where they put my sleeves and buckles.

SE has been pretty rational about this. If they are going to add servers, I suspect they will be doing something like this:

1. Continue to restrict character creation on servers for a while longer.
2. Add new servers for those people who could not find an NA/EU server to make a character on, and have been invading the JP servers.
3. Increase capacity on existing servers.

This would alleviate a lot of problems. I also expect that they may give out one free character transfer (total speculation there) in the future. Some kind of AFK kick/queue system would be very nice. But I have yet to hear them implementing these systems.

At this point, anything would be an improvement. Unless you have 30-60 minutes of time to spam your login.

Last night i sat and watched one spot, the sanctuary on leviathan for 27 minutes until i got truly bored. During that time, i counted 16 people who stood still there the whole time. I know some of you will say that " they probably were reading strat's or giving their kids a bath".When i am done playing i log out, and everytime i log back in i get 1017. It takes hours sometimes to get in, yesterday it took me 11 hours to get in. I just wish that people were fair and did not take advantage of there being no AFK timer.
I know some people will tell me to worry about myself and not others. But what they do not understand is, they are hurting the game. People will get upset and word of mouth travels fast. So new people will stay away and the game will have a worse stigma.
I know SE has some issue's but we as a community can do our part.
You can tell me to screw off or i am wrong, but to me i make alot sense. This is my point of view
Im am ready to be Flamed

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The capacity of the existing servers will still be and continue to be filled unless people have the option to move to a less populated server.

OP, the servers are capped artificially low atm to keep the strain on the duty finder to a minimum. They need to fix the duty finder to increase the capacity of the servers. Otherwise what will happen is that we'll all be able to log in, but can't do any story missions or dungeons because the duty finder is broken.

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http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...e82cc49c2b3d66



Just sayin'

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Quoting just to ensure it's seen, maybe after seeing the same link 3-4 times someone will click it and get informed.