Sentinel gear still going to be around?

I almost have the full set but just realized i forgot to get the trousers before the servers went down, this missing pants thing is driving me crazy.

If you have them in the beta then yes they still be around and be a way to get them.

I hope we can still get that stuff, 'cause I want to trade my old ones in for tokens in phase 4.

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

I hope we can still get that stuff, 'cause I want to trade my old ones in for tokens in phase 4.

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Any item you have in beta3 then it's in the game it's not hard to understand lol. Everything that should be gone is gone everything that should be there is there. So if you have them now then they be a way to get the item in 2.0.

Unless it's something like raven earring and where it's pointless and have dumb stats.

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

Any item you have in beta3 then it's in the game it's not hard to understand lol. Everything that should be gone is gone everything that should be there is there. So if you have them now then they be a way to get the item in 2.0.

Unless it's something like raven earring and where it's pointless and have dumb stats.

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One word for you: Giantsgall.

Just because it's in the game doesn't mean we can still get it.

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

One word for you: Giantsgall.

Just because it's in the game doesn't mean we can still get it.

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That stuff won't be obtainable in ARR?

I would imagine so. I still have my set currently in the beta. I hope they keep this set useful ^^

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Originally Posted by KiriA500

That stuff won't be obtainable in ARR?

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There's no Skirmish in ARR, so I can only assume that it won't be obtainable.

I don't believe the Giantsgall weapons were listed as unobtainable in that post during 1.0, however there won't be any skirmish content in ARR, so I think they should have been listed but were missed.

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

There's no Skirmish in ARR, so I can only assume that it won't be obtainable.

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We officially lost Skirmish? This is the first I'm hearing of this!

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Originally Posted by KiriA500

We officially lost Skirmish? This is the first I'm hearing of this!

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Yeah, let me see if I can locate the official source. It may take me a while, I'm at work.

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Originally Posted by KiriA500

That stuff won't be obtainable in ARR?

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I think it's more likely they'll just add it as a reward from different content than make it unobtainable tbh.

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Originally Posted by Mjollnir

I think it's more likely they'll just add it as a reward from different content than make it unobtainable tbh.

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Lots of gear got shifted around. The Coeurl's Eye is no longer a drop in Sposhae, but now an item from a chest in one of the dungeons, I forget which one offhand. I just see the Giantsgall stuff being the same.

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Originally Posted by KiriA500

Lots of gear got shifted around. The Coeurl's Eye is no longer a drop in Sposhae, but now an item from a chest in one of the dungeons, I forget which one offhand. I just see the Giantsgall stuff being the same.

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From fighting the Couerl in Sastasha! :D

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

Yeah, let me see if I can locate the official source. It may take me a while, I'm at work.

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Quoting myself, because well, I can't find the official source talking about skirmish changes, only people's reactions to it. Seems it might have been changed into a FATE, or turned into 4 man content rather than removed. Maybe I'm full of it and we will still have those weapons.

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

One word for you: Giantsgall.

Just because it's in the game doesn't mean we can still get it.

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I guess you don't understand what i'm trying to get at i try and explain.

If you have your Sentinel gear in Beta3 on your 1.0 and it have good stats. Then you can follow that by you can still get it in game somewhere. Maybe F.A.T.E,Dungeon,guildbehest or something else.

A item like Raven Earring now is useless pointless stats. If the Sentinel on you in beta3 have really dumb stats that make no sense and it's not useful at all. Then my guess you no longer have a way of getting said item just like raven earring.

If the items have good stats and useful and no way of getting it in 2.0 then it should be change. Seeing how everyone Raven earring are pointless now. That what i think they are doing and it make the most sense.

If you still think otherwise then come up with something that make more sense then what i just said.

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

I guess you don't understand what i'm trying to get at i try and explain.

If you have your Sentinel gear in Beta3 on your 1.0 and it have good stats. Then you can follow that by you can still get it in game somewhere. Maybe F.A.T.E,Dungeon,guildbehest or something else.

A item like Raven Earring now is useless pointless stats. If the Sentinel on you in beta3 have really dumb stats that make no sense and it's not useful at all. Then my guess you no longer have a way of getting said item just like raven earring.

If the items have good stats and useful and no way of getting it in 2.0 then it should be change. Seeing how everyone Raven earring are pointless now. That what i think they are doing and it make the most sense.

If you still think otherwise then come up with something that make more sense then what i just said.

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No I get it, it just doesn't make sense. My Imperial Operative Tricorne has very usefull stats for for ARC/BRD. It is no longer obtainable. The Imperial Operative Hat has good WHM stats, it is also no longer obtainable.

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

No I get it, it just doesn't make sense. My Imperial Operative Tricorne has very usefull stats for for ARC/BRD. It is no longer obtainable. The Imperial Operative Hat has good WHM stats, it is also no longer obtainable.

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Did we every get 100% fact that it's no longer obtainable? there imperial items right? they could drop but F.A.T.E that have Imperial on it. Also looking at the sentinel items it really does have very low stats to the point it's pretty pointless to use.

The Imperial items seem to be very useful still. So i wonder if they still going to be in the game. If they really no longer obtainable. Then i don't understand why the dev team said they not thinking of changing the stats on raven earring and pretty much it's just a item saying i won that fight. But the Imperial items are still as powerful or better then some AF items lol. The only thing that make sense that you can still get it somehow in the game somewhere.

They should also change the imperial item seeing how they more useful if you can't obtain them anymore.

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

Did we every get 100% fact that it's no longer obtainable?

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Yes. They were in the list of unobtainable items from 1.0.

Edit: I was thinking of the list of achievements, however there was a forum post in regards to the hats.

This post implies there was a limited time to get the hats:

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Originally Posted by Camate

Greetings!

We discussed your feedback regarding the drop rates of imperial hats with the item team, however, they told us that they do not have any plans of making any adjustments.

We understand that you may feel the pressure of time to get these items, but don't panic! There is still a good amount of time to keep trying.

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

Yes. They were in the list of unobtainable items from 1.0.

Edit: I was thinking of the list of achievements, however there was a forum post in regards to the hats.

This post implies there was a limited time to get the hats:

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So why would it be so hard to give Raven earring some good stats if you can no longer get Imperial items. This is pretty dumb of them lol i don't understand why Raven got shit stats but items like Imperial are pretty good and useful to you can get a good set of crystal tower gear lol.

Just make no sense to me i guess my idea does not work for this seeing how they broke it with the Imperial items lol.

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

So why would it be so hard to give Raven earring some good stats if you can no longer get Imperial items. This is pretty dumb of them lol i don't understand why Raven got shit stats but items like Imperial are pretty good and useful to you can get a good set of crystal tower gear lol.

Just make no sense to me i guess my idea does not work for this seeing how they broke it with the Imperial items lol.

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IDK, maybe they thought the stats were OP to begin with? Maybe it's as they said that those were meant to be vanity items, and the refresh on them didn't fit that vision.

I was pretty sure they said that the imperial hats would be attainable again in 2.0 later on. There's no way they are locking out Giantsgall weaps. No point in throwing away perfectly good weapon models.

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Originally Posted by Doki

I was pretty sure they said that the imperial hats would be attainable again in 2.0 later on. There's no way they are locking out Giantsgall weaps. No point in throwing away perfectly good weapon models.

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I'm 100% certain the hats aren't coming back, but the giantsgall weapons were iffy. It was based on my misunderstanding of what was happening with skirmish.

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

IDK, maybe they thought the stats were OP to begin with? Maybe it's as they said that those were meant to be vanity items, and the refresh on them didn't fit that vision.

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That does not matter it's the fact that Imperial items items are not also vanity items. They could have easy made stats that fit with ffxiv 2.0 with the raven earring. The point i'm trying to get at if raven is a vanity then should the Imperial items seeing how no new players can get it.


I just have a feeling that they be a way of getting Imperial items if not they would be vanity items.

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

That does not matter it's the fact that Imperial items items are not also vanity items. They could have easy made stats that fit with ffxiv 2.0 with the raven earring. The point i'm trying to get at if raven is a vanity then should the Imperial items seeing how no new players can get it.


I just have a feeling that they be a way of getting Imperial items if not they would be vanity items.

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The fact that new players can't get then doesn't make them vanity items. What makes a vanity item is SE saying it's a vanity item.

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

The fact that new players can't get then doesn't make them vanity items. What makes a vanity item is SE saying it's a vanity item.

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Guess you don't get the point lol. If raven earring have shit stats so it make it fair for new players. Then it should be the same for every other items that you no longer can get.

That why i say i think the item would return somewhere in FFXIV at some point.

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

Guess you don't get the point lol. If raven earring have shit stats so it make it fair for new players. Then it should be the same for every other items that you no longer can get.

That why i say i think the item would return somewhere in FFXIV at some point.

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I get what you're trying to say, but you're wrong. To me it comes across as butthurt, tbh. You're mad that you worked so hard to get items for the OP stats that turned out to be vanity items in ARR. But believe me, I feel your pain. I spent countless hours trying to get the Imperial Operative Tricorne for my WAR, when now it's only for ARC, a class I don't really play.

Look at it this way, at least you can wear your White Ravens on your favorite class.

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

I get what you're trying to say, but you're wrong. To me it comes across as butthurt, tbh. You're mad that you worked so hard to get items for the OP stats that turned out to be vanity items in ARR. But believe me, I feel your pain. I spent countless hours trying to get the Imperial Operative Tricorne for my WAR, when now it's only for ARC, a class I don't really play.

Look at it this way, at least you can wear your White Ravens on your favorite class.

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First let's start by i can care less about white raven earring by the time i had it i had 3 relics and was few days from last saved. I give that as a example of what the imperial items should have for stats seeing how if you can no longer get them then it be unfair for others if you have such a great item. That was the point in making the white reven into a vanity items.

The only point i'm trying to say here is once again. If it have good stats i believe they be a way of getting it in 2.0. If it have pointless stats like white reven then it be something for looks or show off aka vanity items. I understand that vanity items are what SE says are vanity items but there really no category to put this type of item under and what come close to me is saying it's should be a vanity item if you no longer can get it in 2.0.

And let's just agree to disagree seeing it's just the two of us talking about this and me saying the same thing over and over again. Let's see what other have to say if they even care i just wanted trying to make a point if it have good stats then it be in 2.0 somewhere if not then make it a Vanity item or lower the stats. But at the end it's SE game they can do w/e they want with the items i can careless we wont be using any of it within no time.

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

First let's start by i can care less about white raven earring by the time i had it i had 3 relics and was few days from last saved. I give that as a example of what the imperial items should have for stats seeing how if you can no longer get them then it be unfair for others if you have such a great item. That was the point in making the white reven into a vanity items.

The only point i'm trying to say here is once again. If it have good stats i believe they be a way of getting it in 2.0. If it have pointless stats like white reven then it be something for looks or show off aka vanity items. I understand that vanity items are what SE says are vanity items but there really no category to put this type of item under and what come close to me is saying it's should be a vanity item if you no longer can get it in 2.0.

The truth is, we don't know why they changed the stats, all we know is that they changed the stats because they wanted them to be vanity items. Was this because of a mistake when creating them initially, or was it because of second thoughts after the fact? We don't know, we may never know.

And let's just agree to disagree seeing it's just the two of us talking about this and me saying the same thing over and over again. Let's see what other have to say if they even care i just wanted trying to make a point if it have good stats then it be in 2.0 somewhere if not then make it a Vanity item or lower the stats. But at the end it's SE game they can do w/e they want with the items i can careless we wont be using any of it within no time.

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Unless you work for SE, I don't think you're in a position to say what the motivation behind changing the stats on the White Ravens was. We know that SE thinks they should be vanity items. They have not said the same thing about the Imperial hats, but they have said that they won't be available in ARR.

The truth is, we don't know why they changed the stats beyond that they wanted them to be vanity items. We don't know what caused the change of heart. Was it because they made a mistake when initially creating them, or did they change their minds after the fact? We don't know, we may never know.

So im guessing i cant get my sentinels trousers... well that's pretty god damn annoying.

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Originally Posted by Matto

So im guessing i cant get my sentinels trousers... well that's pretty god damn annoying.

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We don't know yet, we don't know what's in the strongholds at this point. That's what got Zenaku and I into the discussion above.

sighhhh oh well

Good news is they should be open for phase 4, so we can find out then.

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

Unless you work for SE, I don't think you're in a position to say what the motivation behind changing the stats on the White Ravens was. We know that SE thinks they should be vanity items. They have not said the same thing about the Imperial hats, but they have said that they won't be available in ARR.

The truth is, we don't know why they changed the stats beyond that they wanted them to be vanity items. We don't know what caused the change of heart. Was it because they made a mistake when initially creating them, or did they change their minds after the fact? We don't know, we may never know.

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agree to disagree :)

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

agree to disagree :)

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lol there's nothing to disagree with here, it's fact vs assumption. You can't just fill in your own details where we're missing information.

there still going to have strongholds

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Originally Posted by indira

there still going to have strongholds

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Have you been to Ughmaru Mines? That place looks awesome now!

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

lol there's nothing to disagree with here, it's fact vs assumption. You can't just fill in your own details where we're missing information.

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ok :) XD /10char

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

Have you been to Ughmaru Mines? That place looks awesome now!

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if its near outer la noscea yeah.

They aren't getting rid of skirmish. They are, however, doing adjustments to it. It was either in the last live letter or the E3 live video where they mentioned it. They're thinking of adding signature bosses of the series into Skirmish as final bosses. Think of ff13-2s coliseum dlc fights. So Skirmish will be back, but how the content is organzied is still up for debate.

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Originally Posted by MetaVale

They aren't getting rid of skirmish. They are, however, doing adjustments to it. It was either in the last live letter or the E3 live video where they mentioned it. They're thinking of adding signature bosses of the series into Skirmish as final bosses. Think of ff13-2s coliseum dlc fights. So Skirmish will be back, but how the content is organzied is still up for debate.

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This is correct. I was just about to post the same.