PS3 Beta + 1.0 Account question

I think I'm allowed to post this question here now, and seeing as these forums are much less crowded, maybe an Admin will see it and we can get this answered. Furthermore there is currently a 750 character per post limit + only one post per 15 minutes limit at the Beta forums.

Here's my question/issue/problem:

After obtaining a PS3 Beta code and going through the process of being able to play on the PS3, people are reporting that they have to link their PSN/Sony account to their SE Account (obviously, of course.) When doing so they are advised that it is permanent and irreversible. So they do it in thinking that they are linking this PS3 beta code AND their PSN/Sony account to their EXISTING FFXIV Service Account.

In fact, what is happening, is a new and separate FFXIV Service Account is being created.

When checking their SE Accounts, people who previously had ONE FFXIV Service Account (like myself) are finding this under FFXIV Active Service Accounts:

FFXIV Service Account 1 (which has all their stuff they know from before, including all of their permanent options, in-game items, registrations, etc.)

FFXIV Service Account 2 (which apparently has the PS3 Beta attached to it)

This brings about two issues:

1) We've been advised that we can only attach ONE PSN to ONE SE account. Does this mean that we've attached it and now this "extra" FFXIV Service Account is the only account that can be used with the PSN?

2) Does it mean we cannot log into Beta characters we've created on PC, or later, our 1.0 characters?

3) Both?

I have obtained a PS3 Beta code but right now am waiting to go through the registration process and attaching my PSN/Sony Account to my SE Account. This really needs clarification. It is confusing enough sometimes. I have it easy because I have ONE SE ACCT and ONE FFXIV Service Acct. I do not want to create an FFXIV Service Account 2 which is where my PS3 info has been attached to (and nothing else).

I don't want to end up screwing something up and not being able to later attach my retail PS3 CE Game to my 1.0 account and PSN.

So this post fell off with no replies or likes.

If I can't get a dev response (which I sure hope to), can anyone tell me if you have been able to link your PSN to your SE account and add PS3 Beta access to it without inadvertently creating an additional FFXIV Service Account?

If so, can you tell me how you did this? Or give some insight about how that is possibly ok?

I've just checked, and there isn't a new Service Account. I linked my SE account to my PSN, and it didn't change anything. There is one other service account, but it's from the beta phase from version 1.0, and it's under the "Cancelled Service Accounts".

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Originally Posted by Marcus

I've just checked, and there isn't a new Service Account. I linked my SE account to my PSN, and it didn't change anything. There is one other service account, but it's from the beta phase from version 1.0, and it's under the "Cancelled Service Accounts".

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And your PS3 Beta showed up as a Permanent Option with the date you added the ps3 beta code, in your existing FFXIV Service Account?

This is what my Permanent Options look like:

Permanent Options
Option - Date Enabled
FINAL FANTASY XIV - Windows(R) Oct. 2, 2010
FINAL FANTASY XIV - Legacy May 20, 2012
FFXIV: A Realm Reborn - Alpha Test Dec. 9, 2012
FFXIV: A Realm Reborn - Beta Test Feb. 19, 2013
In-game item Code - Garlond Goggles Oct. 2, 2010

so if I added another beta code, I can see where it would be confusing to the account unless it's differentiated as a PS3 Beta Test code


Btw, were you previously in Beta (phases 1 and 2) for ARR? It may be that ppl who already have an existing Beta code on their FFXIV Service Account end up with a 2nd Service Account because the PS3 may not be differentiated and it can't handle being having two of the same "FFXIV: A Realm Reborn - Beta Test" in permanent options. I think the problem is that it doesn't say PS3 on the permanent option. Idk, let me know your situation! and thank you for replying!

This is what it looks to me:

FINAL FANTASY XIV - Windows(R) Dec. 4, 2010
FINAL FANTASY XIV - Legacy May 7, 2012
FFXIV: A Realm Reborn - Beta Test Feb. 23, 2013
In-game item Code - Onion Helm Sep. 20, 2012
Campaign Code - Asuran Armguards Dec. 4, 2010

But I didn't register the PS3 beta code. The game didn't ask for it. I received it, but I didn't register it. I also received a code to download the game. After I downloaded it, I just logged in. ._.

I got the option to select a second service account when I started up the game on the PS3. I selected the first one fine and began the game with my Onion Helm and Asuran Armbands in my mailbox.

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Originally Posted by Marcus

This is what it looks to me:

FINAL FANTASY XIV - Windows(R) Dec. 4, 2010
FINAL FANTASY XIV - Legacy May 7, 2012
FFXIV: A Realm Reborn - Beta Test Feb. 23, 2013
In-game item Code - Onion Helm Sep. 20, 2012
Campaign Code - Asuran Armguards Dec. 4, 2010

But I didn't register the PS3 beta code. The game didn't ask for it. I received it, but I didn't register it. I also received a code to download the game. After I downloaded it, I just logged in. ._.

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Interesting. In the PS3 Beta email it does give a "PlayStation®3 Promotion Code" as well as a "Beta Registration Code". Marcus since you are already in the Beta since February, maybe that's why you were not asked to enter it. Any maybe it won't ask me either. Maybe the people this happened to did something diffeerent.

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Originally Posted by Mjollnir

I got the option to select a second service account when I started up the game on the PS3. I selected the first one fine and began the game with my Onion Helm and Asuran Armbands in my mailbox.

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So, Mjoll, are you saying that you still just have one XIV Service Account (still) and are able to play on either PS3 or PC?

Are you guys able to play the same new character you've created in Beta on both the PC and PS3? I created a new char on Coeurl and did receive my Garlond Goggles via mail delivery. I would expect I could play that same character on PS3 if I set this up right.

ONE OTHER REALLY important question - can you log into your SE account and tell me exactly where does your PSN link/registration show up? Does it show up like on that first page where with the Security Token shows up, as an account wide thing?

So far all I did was enter the "PlayStation®3 Promotion Code". After that I was being prompted to link my PSN (and I presume after that, begin downloading). I didn't proceed with that yet, pending more information, because I was afraid I would permanently attach my PSN somewhere that would not let me later attach my 1.0 account and the PS3 retail version code.


Thanks for the info, I may keep bugging you! :) REALLY APPRECIATE THE INFO!

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Originally Posted by Marcus

This is what it looks to me:

FINAL FANTASY XIV - Windows(R) Dec. 4, 2010
FINAL FANTASY XIV - Legacy May 7, 2012
FFXIV: A Realm Reborn - Beta Test Feb. 23, 2013
In-game item Code - Onion Helm Sep. 20, 2012
Campaign Code - Asuran Armguards Dec. 4, 2010

But I didn't register the PS3 beta code. The game didn't ask for it. I received it, but I didn't register it. I also received a code to download the game. After I downloaded it, I just logged in. ._.

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Wait.. So you have the PS3 beta but didn't have to register the code? How did you even download it? You have to redeem the code first, then it takes you to the client download. >_>

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Originally Posted by Pwnagraphic

Wait.. So you have the PS3 beta but didn't have to register the code? How did you even download it? You have to redeem the code first, then it takes you to the client download. >_>

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Did you get a PS3 Beta code, Pwn? Did you read my above post? The first code you have to enter is the PS3 Promotion Code. I haven't proceed past that point but it seemed as if I'd be linking my PSN next and maybe once you link your PSN it knows your SE account and knows if you are already in Beta? Then maybe doesn't prompt you for the other code?

I'm still full of questions before proceeding. I'd like to especially know where the PSN account link appears in your SE Account information.

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Originally Posted by JillyBean

Interesting. In the PS3 Beta email it does give a "PlayStation®3 Promotion Code" as well as a "Beta Registration Code". Marcus since you are already in the Beta since February, maybe that's why you were not asked to enter it. Any maybe it won't ask me either. Maybe the people this happened to did something different.

So far all I did was enter the "PlayStation®3 Promotion Code". After that I was being prompted to link my PSN (and I presume after that, begin downloading). I didn't proceed with that yet, pending more information, because I was afraid I would permanently attach my PSN somewhere that would not let me later attach my 1.0 account and the PS3 retail version code.

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Originally Posted by JillyBean

Did you get a PS3 Beta code, Pwn? Did you read my above post? The first code you have to enter is the PS3 Promotion Code. I haven't proceed past that point but it seemed as if I'd be linking my PSN next and maybe once you link your PSN it knows your SE account and knows if you are already in Beta? Then maybe doesn't prompt you for the other code?

I'm still full of questions before proceeding. I'd like to especially know where the PSN account link appears in your SE Account information.

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Yeah after you choose you have an existing account, you don't need to enter the beta code. It'll link your PSN and SE account and then it takes you to the client download. And you're done. :)

I checked my account services and the PS3 beta hasn't shown up yet, but I am assuming it'll show after I actually play it on the PS3? I dunno yet but I have it downloaded and ready to go.

But if you're worried about it saving over your account info and replacing your PC account with PS3, it won't. It only adds that option to it. So you can play between both PS3 and PC.

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Originally Posted by Pwnagraphic

Yeah after you choose you have an existing account, you don't need to enter the beta code. It'll link your PSN and SE account and then it takes you to the client download. And you're done. :)

I checked my account services and the PS3 beta hasn't shown up yet, but I am assuming it'll show after I actually play it on the PS3? I dunno yet but I have it downloaded and ready to go.

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Thanks! In your SE Account, where do you see your PSN linked? I don't think a separate PS3 Beta access will show up (since you already had a beta code/access listed). But the PSN/Sony account should be there somewhere?

Well I thought maybe it'd show it as one of my services since it shows alpha, beta, and my regular account, but maybe you're right since I already had the beta it wouldn't say "PS3 Beta" also.

SE just wants you to link your PSN to them so they can grant you access to the game. I'm sure TESO will work the same on the PS4.

Ok hey ! So I linked my SE + PSN and as you guys said, didn't ask me for a Beta code. It listed my ONE SE account and my ONE PSN and asked "link these" so hopefully it's exactly what I wanted to do.

Now the PS3 launcher looks JUST like the PC launcher, and it's updating/dl the game. 145 mins and rising on the timer, lol. I have RR Lightning (60++ mbps) and only getting 1.17 for the dl.. oh I remember the 6 hr dl's on XI...

Thanks for your info guys, crossing fingers that this all works and that on PS3 I will be logging into the exact same stuff/characters. :O

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Originally Posted by JillyBean

Ok hey ! So I linked my SE + PSN and as you guys said, didn't ask me for a Beta code. It listed my ONE SE account and my ONE PSN and asked "link these" so hopefully it's exactly what I wanted to do.

Now the PS3 launcher looks JUST like the PC launcher, and it's updating/dl the game. 145 mins and rising on the timer, lol. I have RR Lightning (60++ mbps) and only getting 1.17 for the dl.. oh I remember the 6 hr dl's on XI...

Thanks for your info guys, crossing fingers that this all works and that on PS3 I will be logging into the exact same stuff/characters. :O

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Yeah my friend thinks they made it to where you download a certain section for 15 minutes, then another section for 15, etc.. Helps reduce congestion and what not. Never heard of it, but she knows more about that stuff than I do and it made sense considering everyone downloading the client at once.

What server are you on?

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Originally Posted by Pwnagraphic

Yeah my friend thinks they made it to where you download a certain section for 15 minutes, then another section for 15, etc.. Helps reduce congestion and what not. Never heard of it, but she knows more about that stuff than I do and it made sense considering everyone downloading the client at once.

What server are you on?

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It will probably DL better today since Beta is over til Friday again and not as many ppl dl'ing all at once. Again, thanks for your replies and giving me the courage to proceed lol

I played on PC all weekend but am *hoping* that having Beta on the PS3 will minimize the effort I need to go to add the retail version (who knows). I likely won't play on PS3 much at all, if ever, but it will be a backup, and it's more portable. Also gives me a way to get all the in-game CE/preorder goodies on my Legacy 1.0 account. :)

I'm on Coeurl (for Beta). Staying on Sargatanas for Ph4/Early/Launch. :)

Also, logged into my SE Account and don't see the PSN/Sony account listed anywhere. Maybe I'm rushing things lol and it can't show up yet. I'm thinking maybe it will be listed under services like where it lists:

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Services and Options

Confirm Account Status

Review which services are currently registered or cancelled.
Select criteria from below.

Service Status
Registered
Cancelled

Service Name
All services
Account Basic Service
FINAL FANTASY XIV
PlayOnline / FINAL FANTASY XI

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Surely at some point it will show in our SE Account the PSN account which we've added?

Also, dl timer is going down, not up now, currently at 107 mins

EDIT haha, spoke to soon, 115 mins

Glad it seems to be working out. I added the PS3 Beta code to my account and it created a second service account. I can play both platforms on both. Essentially I now have two accounts I can play simultaneously, which was unintended. The PSN ID links to the SE account, not the individual service account.

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Originally Posted by Mjollnir

Glad it seems to be working out. I added the PS3 Beta code to my account and it created a second service account. I can play both platforms on both. Essentially I now have two accounts I can play simultaneously, which was unintended. The PSN ID links to the SE account, not the individual service account.

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It never asked me to add the PS3 Beta code. Have you been in Beta before this code?

Do you see your PSN ID anywhere in your SE acccount?

Thanks!

I'm glad it worked for you, =)
But it's weird that we didn't have to register the beta code, and others did. I guess that they gave us the code like they did to everyone else who wasn't on the previous beta. Now I have a code that I won't use. Can I give it to someone else?

Sweet. See you on Sarg come launch.

It also only took about an hour for mine to download. If that. I turned over to the TV and did the dishes and it was done.. So maybe 30 minutes? lol

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Originally Posted by JillyBean

It never asked me to add the PS3 Beta code. Have you been in Beta before this code?

Do you see your PSN ID anywhere in your SE acccount?

Thanks!

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Yes, I was in earlier phases. It didn't ask me to register the PS3 code, except for in the original e-mail. As I now have two service accounts, I get the feeling that I didn't really need to do that - it probably would have sufficed just to use the PS3 download code and start playing on my PS3 without applying the new Beta code to my SE account.

Account 1 is Legacy and has a Beta reg date of 19th Feb.
Account 2 is not and has a Beta reg date of 14th June.

I could play on my PS3 on Account 1.

Nothing in my SE account page makes mention of my PSN ID, but the in-game title screen has it printed at the bottom iirc.

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Originally Posted by Mjollnir

Yes, I was in earlier phases. It didn't ask me to register the PS3 code, except for in the original e-mail. As I now have two service accounts, I get the feeling that I didn't really need to do that - it probably would have sufficed just to use the PS3 download code and start playing on my PS3 without applying the new Beta code to my SE account.

Account 1 is Legacy and has a Beta reg date of 19th Feb.
Account 2 is not and has a Beta reg date of 14th June.

I could play on my PS3 on Account 1.

Nothing in my SE account page makes mention of my PSN ID, but the in-game title screen has it printed at the bottom iirc.

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Thanks! Good to know. I only downloaded the PS3 client yesterday, after the beta weekend ended. So, I guess I'll see how it looks next weekend (and if I see if my PSN is on the game title screen).

My concern with ending up with two FFXIV Service Accounts is really so I don't screw up something later. I've read people accidentally attaching something to the wrong account. If I just have one account, I won't be able to do that. :rolleyes:

It's strange that since they've told us only one PSN can be attached to our SE Account that it doesn't show up there. You'd think they'd show that attachment somewhere in the SE Account once we've done it.

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Originally Posted by Lodestone

Please note that only one Sony Entertainment Network account can be linked to a Square Enix Account.

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I assume what we've been calling PSN = Sony Entertainment Network account.

I own a PS3, but I'm a total newb about it.