Materia System Revisions (06/13/2013)

Materia System Revisions (06/13/2013) on the Lodestone

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8-1. Conversion of Version 1.0 Materia
1. All Version 1.0 materia will be automatically converted into cracked materia.

2. Players will be able to exchange their cracked materia for new materia of their choosing.
* Materia that has already been affixed to gear can be converted as is.

Even after converting cracked materia, there is the possibility certain gear will see a decrease in effectiveness when compared to Version 1.0. To compensate for this loss, players will have the option to exchange any gear affixed with cracked materia for a special currency. The amount of currency received is based on the type of gear as well as the number of materia affixed. This currency can be exchanged for a variety of gear, such as those obtained in dungeons and primal battles, or darklight gear.

* The exchange of cracked materia and gear affixed with cracked materia will be possible starting from phase 4.

8-2. Restoring Cracked Materia

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Suddenly glad I was a packrat that barely sold anything towards the end of 1.0. :cool: But sad to see some of the useful/some of my personally favored materia go, such as Healer's Hand & Sound of Serenity.

awwwww.... damn that means ima loose my 4x STRIV meld..... so annoying.

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Originally Posted by hideka

awwwww.... damn that means ima loose my 4x STRIV meld..... so annoying.

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Remember yoshi-p said it may not be a good idea to just stack the same meld on a gear.

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Originally Posted by Zenaku

Remember yoshi-p said it may not be a good idea to just stack the same meld on a gear.

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It was at the time with the system we had. SE should have hinted at their plans for Materia before the final save. People who spent hundreds of millions on triple and quad melds got destroyed in this. Overall the Materia change is excellent but this little thing is crazy ouch. The exchange rate better be very reasonable cause this is going to make a lot of people angry when they find out.

yea well, you tell that to some +80 str gloves lol. oh wells. its just gear, it can be replaced.

I'm glad I didn't get much into materia at all.

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Originally Posted by hideka

yea well, you tell that to some +80 str gloves lol. oh wells. its just gear, it can be replaced.

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That's a good attitude to have, very commendable but people are gonna flip lol. On Balmung there was a Japanese Roegadyn who had Quad-melds in all slots for Black Mage, Monk, and Dragoon...I really feel sorry for him. He doesn't exactly need any more Darklight lol.

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Originally Posted by NoloeTazier

That's a good attitude to have, very commendable but people are gonna flip lol. On Balmung there was a Japanese Roegadyn who had Quad-melds in all slots for Black Mage, Monk, and Dragoon...I really feel sorry for him. He doesn't exactly need any more Darklight lol.

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Why would you feel sorry for him? He is still going to have quads in every slot in ARR. I feel like people aren't reading carefully.

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Originally Posted by Ikkenoe

Why would you feel sorry for him? He is still going to have quads in every slot in ARR. I feel like people aren't reading carefully.

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ALL Materia is now Cracked Materia. Look at the picture, if you had a Penta-Meld Cobalt Cuirass with 5 STR Materia, you now have a 5x Meld Cracker Materia Cobalt Cuirass. Which you have the option to exchange for Materia of your choosing or the "currency" for Raid/Darklight gear.

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Originally Posted by NoloeTazier

ALL Materia is now Cracked Materia. Look at the picture, if you had a Penta-Meld Cobalt Cuirass with 5 STR Materia, you now have a 5x Meld Cracker Materia Cobalt Cuirass. Which you have the option to exchange for Materia of your choosing or the "currency" for Raid/Darklight gear.

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* Materia that has already been affixed to gear can be converted as is.

Even after converting cracked materia, there is the possibility certain gear will see a decrease in effectiveness when compared to Version 1.0.

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Originally Posted by Ikkenoe

* Materia that has already been affixed to gear can be converted as is.

Even after converting cracked materia, there is the possibility certain gear will see a decrease in effectiveness when compared to Version 1.0.

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Ah, so it's saying those melds will retain the stat values of the quad-meld? That's odd if all Materia is becoming obsolete cracked Materia, with some Materia downright no longer existing like +enmity.

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Originally Posted by NoloeTazier

Ah, so it's saying those melds will retain the stat values of the quad-meld? That's odd if all Materia is becoming obsolete cracked Materia, with some Materia downright no longer existing like +enmity.

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Sort of. Unless I'm wildly wrong about this (and that is possible), the implication is that when you convert a piece of gear with, say, four pieces of grade IV cracked materia- you get back gear with four pieces of grade IV ARR materia of your choice. I believe the main reason they throw up the disclaimer about the reduced potency is in the event of ARR grade IV materia, which all have the same stat value, having a lower value than your old grade IV from 1.0 (IE: your old grade IVs had 20 STR each, the highest 1.0 value, but the new ARR grade IVs are a standard 18 each). Plus, grade V is the new highest tier, so if you want a quad meld with all grade V's you'll have to start over on a new piece.

Still get to keep your old quads, but with new materia types/values they just may not be as strong as they were before (or as strong as a quad V in ARR).

I just want to say... Thank you.

It never made sense to me that you would lose your gear after a failed meld.

The interesting thing to me is how this will influence economy. With gear becoming bound to you after wearing it in battle a single time, this takes emphasis away from simply mass-producing gear for people to blow up through melding and places emphasis on primarily selling HQ equipment for a few extra stats/epeen, and/or converting that equipment into materia. Incidentally this makes shopping and upgrading more streamlined and painless, as well as largely simplifying the money-making process. That's a good thing considering we still have to use the market wards, rather than getting an auction house.

The only downside really is that it will make it just a little bit harder for crafters to find a niche to settle down into for profit. That's not to say it will be impossible, just slightly less opportunity for it than before.

I hope the exchange rate is more than reasonable, I worked really hard on some of my melds (or mostly just spent a lot of money).

Sad to see some materia go, especially as some of those were extremely expensive and hard to get.

Im having a hard time with my reading skills... i need more coffee... Question:

Is the npc taking the old materia off my old gear or trying to take my gear... /clings to her clothes.. I dont mind giving the materia away... but I dont want to loose the outfit ; ;

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Originally Posted by Ikkenoe

* Materia that has already been affixed to gear can be converted as is.

Even after converting cracked materia, there is the possibility certain gear will see a decrease in effectiveness when compared to Version 1.0.

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As of ARR:

Enhancement Cap - Maximum enhancement values will be imposed upon each gear slot.

So that quad meld of +20 (80) - will now be capped. Noone can say what yet as the cap could be set anywhere from 20-80.

But hey, lets have some speculation! Would it be a fair assumption that SE stick it right in the middle around 40-50 ish?

This is an amazing feature from S-E.

I was honestly gutted that the time/money I spent on a Triple Melded Celata +1 with MND would be useless, seeing how MND isnt a damage stat for PLD anymore. Now I can just choose a materia more suitable or scrap it for darklight ;D

Hope I did not just loose my crit attack rating melds..

I'm loving the changes...just wished I had kept more of the useless materia...oh well.

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Originally Posted by Pandemonium

As of ARR:

Enhancement Cap - Maximum enhancement values will be imposed upon each gear slot.

So that quad meld of +20 (80) - will now be capped. Noone can say what yet as the cap could be set anywhere from 20-80.

But hey, lets have some speculation! Would it be a fair assumption that SE stick it right in the middle around 40-50 ish?

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If 5x melds are still possible, I don't know why you wouldn't be able to hit the max value of the materia and gear allowed, but I guess they want some limit in place.

Well then... this pretty much guarantees me starting over on a new server.

One of the biggest things holding me back was all my melded gear. Now that the melded gear is useless, HI HO NEW SERVER!

Just hope that there is actually some indication on items about what the stat caps are. Especially since different gear types will have different stat caps.

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Originally Posted by KumaAkuma

Just hope that there is actually some indication on items about what the stat caps are. Especially since different gear types will have different stat caps.

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*Maximum enhancement values can be verified in the materia melding window.

Well, glad I kept a slew of materia!

Does anyone know how this effects double melded prerequisite relic weapons? I ended up with around a dozen of them in my attempts at making one for each of my fighting classes. Are they still going to require x2 tier 4's or 5's now? Will they be converted automatically since a couple of the materia types no longer exist? Would appreciate any info or links ^^ ty

Have to say I may like these changes. Making materia sets was becoming pretty torturous for some people.
No loss of gear due to botch is a nice touch.
Good idea on the stat cap I suppose.
It will help combat eliteism.

The changes look good. Nice to see all gear can have slots now.

this means prices will drop on materia, and catalyst might go up depending how easy they are to get.
dye system wont allow price gouging on buying a black armor piece apposed to yellow.

Prices of materia will go up, not down:

* It is harder to make materia
* People will try more to add multimelds to their gear, because the loss is lower
* ''useless" materia will still be used to decrease spiritbonding time.

I hope I get some compensation for my trip meld blm gear....

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Originally Posted by KumaAkuma

Prices of materia will go up, not down:

* It is harder to make materia
* People will try more to add multimelds to their gear, because the loss is lower
* ''useless" materia will still be used to decrease spiritbonding time.

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Man they really thought of everything, don't want that materia, then just put it ina dinky gear and bond with it faster lol. Then if you have to many HQs and not using any bond with one, but of course the slight attribute boost is something that people will most liekly wanna use in melding materia with in the long run, but it is interesting to see that they seem to have covered a lot of corners with the changes to system.

Though they did take out a lot of materia, odds are they will come back later, they just had to break down the system to it's core, I wouldn't be surprised if later down the road they created materia specifically designated for PVP.

Materia melding is one of those things I never got around to before the servers shut down so all of this is new to me.

I feel sorry for all the people who blew all their money in double melding base weapons for the relic quest in preparation for the 2.0 quest. Could have saved heaps of gil with the easier melding system