Greetings! :cool:
Seeing as ARR will be the first FF MMO to utilize the Playstation Network (launched in 2006), will you be adjusting your LS event schedule around Network outages?
Plan for the unpredictable! I would just hate to setup a massive event to go raid Lord Oinky's castle, only to boot up my game & find out that Sony's performing an emergency maintenance on the Rainbow Bridge of Justice!
Scheduling Events Around Playstation Network & ARR
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01-19-2013, 11:43 PMMizoreShirayukiScheduling Events Around Playstation Network & ARR
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01-19-2013, 11:53 PMEnkidoh
It would be no worse than SE themselves needing to take the game down suddenly for emergency maintenance - it's a fact of life with online games. You'll just learn to adapt and postpone any events that were planned, it's no big deal. Besides, FFXI players have been dealing with this for a decade nearly anyway without complaint (on PS2 and later 360).
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01-20-2013, 01:53 AMFelis
Do it need a PSN connection or do it connect direct to the SE servers after starting the PS3 client?
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01-20-2013, 02:28 AMZenaku
Seeing how my ls is full of PC users i don't see this being a problem for me for a while at least. But it would suck later down the road if we do need psn connection.
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01-20-2013, 02:34 AMFiron
The game will not be ran on psn servers so that wont matter. You can always play games online even if psn is down.
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01-20-2013, 05:11 AMZumiNo you can't try playing anything online when PSN is down it will prompt you to sign in to PSN and when you try you will get an error that says they are doing maintenance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Firon
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01-20-2013, 05:36 AMSolace
Ugh, playstation... One reason why the game will be limited in some aspects..Playstation can't do this and can't do that.. Can't render this many this's n that many that's... They need to make better playstations... Being forced to work with hardware that is already years outdated is such a bad idea.. :(
They should be looking at PS4 Hardware, forget about ps3.. It's time has passed..
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01-20-2013, 05:41 AMFironYou can still play games online that's not linked with psn, like DCUQuote:
Originally Posted by Zumi
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01-20-2013, 05:42 AMKaplanHomahru
more PS3/console trolling. cool story
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01-20-2013, 02:38 PMZumiIf its anything like FFXI on 360, SE will probably link your PSN with your SE ID so you can't cheat on trophies by logging into someone else account. They did this on Xbox 360 you had to link your Live account to your POL account and sign in to Live before you could sign in to FFXI so you couldn't cheat on achievements and FFXI achievements were hard to get. When live was down you couldn't play FFXI.Quote:
Originally Posted by Firon
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01-21-2013, 03:45 AMDeadhorseNot 100% true. Once you are logged into FFXI, it runs live service and the Playonline service simultaneously. If you were already in FFXI and XBL goes down, you will still be able to play. However, you're screwed if you decided to /shutdown, because you wouldn't be able to log back in. I'm nearly 90% sure this is why we aren't seeing a port to 360, because of this bypass and truly no need for the XBL service.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zumi
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01-21-2013, 04:05 AMVitoScaletta
I've been loggin in PSN for the last year at least straight, and 2 days ago was the only day they had maint that I can even remember, except for the infamous hacker caused outage, I think you're blowing this way out of proportion. I plan to play ps3 most of the time because I love gamepad, but I will have a PC copy ready as well.
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01-21-2013, 04:52 AMZenakucan always use gamepad on pc also there going to be using the same UI as ps3 so if ps3 does go down you still can play on pc without issue of learning how to play on it lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by VitoScaletta
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01-21-2013, 05:15 AMElexiaThat's because they use PSN for their online play. When Xbox live goes down if you're logged into XI you can still play XI just fine, which is why it then get suggested to not log out as you won't be able to log in while it's down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zumi
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01-21-2013, 05:39 AMAdorraEloomI agree, with playstation 3 being so limited I wish they would just wait for the ps4/xbox720. I remember playing ff11 back in the day and constantly hearing stuff from SE like "We can not increase inventory due to the ps2 limitations". I really don't want to see that in ff14 ARR. 4-5 years down the road and ARR will be really limited due to the ps3 decision. I have faith in yoshi and I really hope that in the future of ARR like 5-6 years down the road they could still somehow enhance the engine/graphics on the PC version at least to keep up with the times, I really hope they can.Quote:
Originally Posted by Solace
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01-21-2013, 05:46 AMKiritoThe only limitations I could see are memory which are more issues with the ui, from what I've seen. I'm not so worried about any other issues because the graphics are so well that I can't imagine it getting any better. We even have 3D for the ps3. My only problem with ff11 was the menu based fighting system, graphics, having to buy maps, and lack of mini-maps... ff14 has fixed all of these issues, it is even supposed to work on weaker computers so its nice...Quote:
Originally Posted by AdorraEloom
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01-21-2013, 05:47 AMAdorraEloom
I guess a quick solution in the future could be a free port from ps3 version to ps4, that would encourage people to buy the ps4 and eventually once everyone that plays on the ps3 has switched to the ps4 they could discontinue the ps3 client and go from there.
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01-21-2013, 05:52 AMAdorraEloomTrue, I don't see this being a major problem now or for the next few years, but let's say in 5 years SE want's to release a huge expansion pack that would have huge battles, bigger than dynamis with like 20-30 monsters on screen and 30+ players, or something along those lines, the ps3 graphics card could not process all that, or at least with out major lag issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirito
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01-21-2013, 05:52 AMKiritoOh that could be fixed if they offer ff14 off psn and let you play it on ps4 with patches specifically for the ps4... but that won't happen at least not for free. I imagine if there really are major limits to in the ps3 like with ff11, then if the player base is big enough, they will sell a port to the ps4...Quote:
Originally Posted by AdorraEloom
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01-21-2013, 06:04 AMAdorraEloomAnd I do agree that the graphics for ARR are very good and seems you can't get much better, but when ff11 first came out the graphics were amazing at the time, really amazing, but as the years went on not so much, like comparing ff11 to ff14 is a huge difference. I know comparing stuff to WOW is not exactly a popular thing to do, but WOW over the years has done many graphic updates during new expansion releases to enhance the visuals as technology changes. I'm just thinking long term, I want ff14 to be a MMO that I can pretty much play, well for at least 20 years? XD and in 10 years these graphics if not updated will be really outdated, but if the game is great that wont bother me, but it will effect the player base and people will phase out to newer and improved mmo's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirito
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01-21-2013, 06:52 AMZenakuAlso there a limitation how many people can be display on the screen a cap which mean they would have to make sure every endgame does not go beyond that cap or ps3 can't see the mobs. Not if they find a way to fix it so ps3 users can still play with that cap and load the mobs they need and unload other they don't need which it seem like there doing if it work out great then i guess there no issue there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirito
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01-21-2013, 10:08 AMkazaran
Hopefully they will have it bypass PSN to log into SE.
Well besides MS discussed FFXIV possibilities but there comment was "in a future plan but not for current users".
So I think Xbox 360 is out and the next xbox will be the onl yway sicne it is going to be more open formatted to cross pc play from the start.
SE may make ARR bypass PSN, for those users.