Is the "hero" party from the cinematic opening?

Remember the intro for FFXIV where the main hero guy is sitting at the table with the Elezen and Miqo'te? After watching the "end of an era" cinematic I notice that there's a black mage Elezen and the Miqo'te Bard.

And I'm curious are these two the same characters from the opening? o:

http://www.imageups.com/img/uploads/big/417eee5750.png

Sidenote:
I actually really adored the characters in the opening cinematic. The chemistry between them was really interesting, and had so much potential. Unlike many of the characters in these newer Final Fantasies, their personalities weren't "forced" and they didn't act all goody goody. It's almost unfortunate that they're merely portrayals of the player and aren't stars in an RPG of their own.

Yep. I assume the Elezen is the Black Mage.

It is the same group. If you notice, the Blonde-haired Lallafel stuck to being a Conjurer/White Mage the whole time, heh.

We're just missing the Elezen lady now. Wonder what job she will be...

They're the same characters from the intro cinematic as far as I'm aware. After watching the End of an Era trailer however, I'm wondering, are they actual characters? Or are they just personifications of us, the players?

I'm wondering if those characters will play a role in the story once ARR is out, or if they're basically just mascots.

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Originally Posted by nekroturkey

They're the same characters from the intro cinematic as far as I'm aware. After watching the End of an Era trailer however, I'm wondering, are they actual characters? Or are they just personifications of us, the players?

I'm wondering if those characters will play a role in the story once ARR is out, or if they're basically just mascots.

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Players. Opening scene for ARR will have them to, to illustrate our arrival into the new world. That'll be about it then.

That female lallafel save the the hero 2x at the intro cg! What an awesome conj/whm! :)

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Originally Posted by Totorixiii

That female lallafel save the the hero 2x at the intro cg! What an awesome conj/whm! :)

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Well, she IS a WHM :p

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Originally Posted by KyahAlmasy

Remember the intro for FFXIV where the main hero guy is sitting at the table with the Elezen and Miqo'te? After watching the "end of an era" cinematic I notice that there's a black mage Elezen and the Miqo'te Bard.

And I'm curious are these two the same characters from the opening? o:

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There have been so many posts about this >< And so much speculation and reading too deep.


So before this thread does the same thing...it seems the general consensus is that they're only to represent us, the players, and nothing more.

I'd like to see them become actual characters, and meet them and fight along side them in certain missions. But I also like the way it seems to be now...since the main hyur looks like me. ;)

EDIT: After looking back over both cinematics, I believe they are the same heroes. The Miqo'te has the same hair/facial markings in both versions, the Roegadyn too. The Hyur is obviously the same and clearly so is the Lalafell. Can't be sure on the Elezen male, but the only one that appears to be missing is the Elezen female.

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Originally Posted by Rex

Well, she IS a WHM :p

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Haha you got that right! :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzC510DpbU0

On a side note, I really think the voice over was top notch.

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Originally Posted by Mihana

Actually I'm thinking the Elezen and Miqo'te are different people. The Miqo'te in the opening cinematic had brown hair if memory serves, and looking at the Bard there she has silver/grey hair. The Elezen might be the same one but I'm rather doubtful of that, you can't actually be certain beneath that hat he wears. However the Roegadyn, Hyur, and Lalafell are the same. The Roegadyn and Lalafell are from the Echo vision the Hyur experiences from the looks of them.

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So to clear up some confusion I've made a composite of an image from both scenes, and I'm quite positive that the Miq'ote from the opening cinematic is the same one from the "End of an Era" cinematic.

http://www.imageups.com/img/uploads/big/417eee5750.png

Notice that they both have the same markings on their face, paired with short fringed hair on either side of her head. I assume the reddish tint in her hair in the image on the left is due to the red hue that has drenched the battlefield from Dalamud above. Also, remember what she says right at the end of the scene? "Let's give the bard something to sing about!" lol that might just be coincidence but it's something to keep in mind.

That being said, I'm quite sure the Elezen black mage is the same one from that scene as well.

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Originally Posted by KyahAlmasy

So to clear up some confusion I've made a composite of an image from both scenes, and I'm quite positive that the Miq'ote from the opening cinematic is the same one from the "End of an Era" cinematic.

http://www.imageups.com/img/uploads/big/417eee5750.png

Notice that they both have the same markings on their face, paired with short fringed hair on either side of her head. I assume the reddish tint in her hair in the image on the left is due to the red hue that has drenched the battlefield from Dalamud above. With that, I'm pretty sure the Elezen is the black mage.

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Yeah I went back over the trailers to take a look, they appear to be the same. Already edited my original post on the previous page as well.

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Originally Posted by Mihana

Yeah I went back over the trailers to take a look, they appear to be the same. Already edited my original post on the previous page as well.

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Oh, sowwy. lol :3

I hope the trailer that introduces the new races shoes Female Roeg on Monk come out and roflstomp something saving the other heroes, and then the PLD Roeg is like "yeah... that's my sister..."

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Originally Posted by Rau

I hope the trailer that introduces the new races shoes Female Roeg on Monk come out and roflstomp something saving the other heroes, and then the PLD Roeg is like "yeah... that's my sister..."

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lol yes please

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Originally Posted by Totorixiii

That female lallafel save the the hero 2x at the intro cg! What an awesome conj/whm! :)

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http://s17.postimage.org/bw359ix27/whm_lalafell.gif

she in my sig now ^^

I suspected as much, so it's really cool to see that the markings on the miq'ote's face match to give a lot more credence to the notion. They represent us, the players, but I think it's nice to start having them as recurring characters with unique personalities and not be neutral, boring characters.

But besides the first question of "where's the female elezen?," in the opening cg aren't the roegadyn, female elezen, and female lalafell part of the hyur's vision using the echo? Meaning they are from the past? If it's them in the End of an Era trailer, I guess that means they met each other again in the present? (the roegadyn/elezen/lalafell being 15 years older now)

You know, funny thing about this, I had been thinking about it myself for a bit the other day. I realize that the group featured in both movies are just a place holder basically for our adventure since they couldnt really incorporate each indiviual player into those movies. But what I would like to see IS those four at some point in game, like Destiny's Edge from GW. There can even be special missions where they go with you as NPC escorts of sorts to help you out. Cause you know (and yes I realize it was just for show) I dont know any war that can rip through a dozen garleans like that guy did as easily and quickly as he did lol I want that guy on the front lines, always.

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Originally Posted by KaMuiSouZou

"where's the female elezen?,"

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May be she quit due to 1.0 bad launch? :-)

I think it would be interesting if SE actually make a story (side-quest or GM event may be) around this group of characters.

Do we know what the elezen looks like in the blm garb? What if its a she too?

For that matter, what if SHE used to be a HE, but rerolled?

Yoshi-P could pull off an Aldo on FF14 hehe and make that party NPCs in game :D that would be awesome. I did wonder why those models weren't used for the Limit Break trailer ....that woulda given it more credibility :D

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Originally Posted by Leo_Hart

http://s17.postimage.org/bw359ix27/whm_lalafell.gif

she in my sig now ^^

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Hahah, Niiiiiiice! She's very dramatic!

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Originally Posted by KaMuiSouZou

I suspected as much, so it's really cool to see that the markings on the miq'ote's face match to give a lot more credence to the notion. They represent us, the players, but I think it's nice to start having them as recurring characters with unique personalities and not be neutral, boring characters.

But besides the first question of "where's the female elezen?," in the opening cg aren't the roegadyn, female elezen, and female lalafell part of the hyur's vision using the echo? Meaning they are from the past? If it's them in the End of an Era trailer, I guess that means they met each other again in the present? (the roegadyn/elezen/lalafell being 15 years older now)

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I think you are definitely right about this, because as you can see their armor weren't AF so 10 years later they level up to 50 on their journey and by end of era trailer they are all wearing AFs!

Every time this group is mentioned I keep thinking how awesome a full length movie involving them would be.

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Originally Posted by Nahaara

Every time this group is mentioned I keep thinking how awesome a full length movie involving them would be.

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I agree...a full length movies detailing the entire journey for these full party in full HD CG would be out of this world A-mazing! I'd buy the bluray version in a heart beat.

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Originally Posted by Warlock

Yoshi-P could pull off an Aldo on FF14 hehe and make that party NPCs in game :D that would be awesome. I did wonder why those models weren't used for the Limit Break trailer ....that woulda given it more credibility :D

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This group seems to be the party representation in pre-rendered cg movies. While they could've picked the hyur and his party for the limit break trailer, a big point about that was showing off the new male miqo'te models and normally any in-game cutscenes would use our own characters anyway. But my thoughts exactly with the Aldo idea, they could easily make these characters NPCs and have their own storyline!

I guess "hero" is a good representation of the XIV community then. The Lalafell probably wanted to go as Dragoon and he was all like "stfu no you are a White Mage and nothing more". Poor Lalafell.

I'd like to see these characters get fleshed out, and maybe be a part of future quests. It would be cool to do the job quests with these guys too, in the cutscenes so we felt we were at the same level as them.

Like the new BRD quests for abilities would have the Miqo'te in the cutscenes.

so.. what do you think the female Elezen is? here's hoping either Monk or Dragoon lol, but mostly be a Dragoon i think haha

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Originally Posted by Totorixiii

That female lallafel save the the hero 2x at the intro cg! What an awesome conj/whm! :)

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She is awesome. I love that look of determination after she heals him in EoAE, like "now go kick some Garlean ass!". And it is a nice nod back to the opening video. Very nice touch.

It really excites me to see XIV's cinematics hitting their stride in the story-telling department. I really felt they were lacking that in the original opening movie. It felt very disjointed and I didn't get a sense of what the world was like or what was going on. The video didn't make much sense to me 'til later when I was more familiar with the setting, the Echo and all that.

Up 'til now, FFXI's opening has remained my #1 favorite opening cut-scene for any MMO (single player games I keep in a separate category). With this EoAE video, though... It's really pushing for a tie. It's got that epic feeling that I felt the previous XIV videos were lacking, including their teaser trailers.

Great stuff, and I really like how that particular group of characters is "us". It really does kinda work, to me, as a kind of "surrogate" for having our characters experience it themselves.

Pretty much is. Apparently when he went to the past with the Echo, he found and recruited the other 3 Adventurers except for the female Elezen.

There's a topic of timelining, speculation and discussion going on in the Localization forum. (More people should go over there, Ferney is as awesome Rep).

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...9-CG-Midlander

He said this about it:

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Originally Posted by Fernehalwes

Hey guys!

My lips have been sealed by animal glue, my hands bound by mole sinew. I am able to type this message with my left ear, only because they forgot to bolt my usbwyyjungwfzi7o3n42375fo5732sf3qafs3fq3. Argghh! Damn left ear!

I'll come back after 11/11... ;)

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Originally Posted by Preypacer

She is awesome. I love that look of determination after she heals him in EoAE, like "now go kick some Garlean ass!". And it is a nice nod back to the opening video. Very nice touch.

It really excites me to see XIV's cinematics hitting their stride in the story-telling department. I really felt they were lacking that in the original opening movie. It felt very disjointed and I didn't get a sense of what the world was like or what was going on. The video didn't make much sense to me 'til later when I was more familiar with the setting, the Echo and all that.

Up 'til now, FFXI's opening has remained my #1 favorite opening cut-scene for any MMO (single player games I keep in a separate category). With this EoAE video, though... It's really pushing for a tie. It's got that epic feeling that I felt the previous XIV videos were lacking, including their teaser trailers.

Great stuff, and I really like how that particular group of characters is "us". It really does kinda work, to me, as a kind of "surrogate" for having our characters experience it themselves.

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lol shes adorable how she gets to the WAR walking not running and her cheeks look a bit soiled :D The WAR steals the show with Steel Cyclone tho :O

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Originally Posted by Nahaara

Every time this group is mentioned I keep thinking how awesome a full length movie involving them would be.

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I would buy it in a heartbeat. <3

I thought with just the first movie the group was just supposed to be a representation of us players.. but..
after seeing the same group in the end movie, and the footage from the ARR Cutscenes, I think it's highly likely now that something more is going on.. hmmm At this point I hope there is a hidden story in all this, I think it would be really cool.

I remember in XI I had no idea what was going on in the opening movie and it wasn't until years later I learned it was the battle of Tavnazia and Aldo who escapes with his sister. Maybe the same will happen here.

I think you guys will want to watch THIS space.

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Originally Posted by Fernehalwes

Hello all!

I truly apologize about the wait! I've been keeping a close watch on this thread, as well as the other lore posts that have been popping up around the forums (that one on the psycho-cultural analysis of the Garlean Empire was epic). Now that the End of an Era trailer has been released, I think I can finally get the permission needed to answer some of the questions that you have...or at least confirm some of the theories that you have put together.

I'm currently in the process of preparing a reply, but it will need to be cleared by the other half of the lore team before I can post it. He's currently out of the office, taking a well deserved break, but should be back early next week. Hopefully then I can clear some things up (though, you guys are spot on, or at least very close, on a lot of issues).

Anywho, I just wanted to let you all know that you aren't being ignored! (And yes, we're still pushing to get an actual Lore page on the new ARR Lodestone so all these posts can be consolidated in one convenient location. ♪Mired by a plague of ill-placed lore posts, the Ferne, he mourns♪).

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Originally Posted by whoopeeragon

We're just missing the Elezen lady now. Wonder what job she will be...

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I have a feeling she will appear as arcanist/summoner. Don't know why, but it makes sense to me.

Yeah, I assumed they were the exact same characters.

It may be worthwhile to merge this topic with

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...se-Even-in-PDF

I mean, history book is good. history book with dialogue we could relate to? epic sauce.

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Originally Posted by Duuude007

Do we know what the elezen looks like in the blm garb? What if its a she too?

For that matter, what if SHE used to be a HE, but rerolled?

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In Vana'diel you could never tell the difference between male and female elvaan... I can see the joke coming back into style because of this lol