SE and "borrowing" elements from other FF games

SE, please dont ever.......EVER try to bring in the draw/magic/summon system from FF8 in any way shape or form.













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Originally Posted by Hypnotic13371337

SE, please dont ever.......EVER try to bring in the draw/magic/summon system from FF8 in any way shape or form.

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That was a great system, and only b/c it was something different :D

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Originally Posted by Hypnotic13371337

SE, please dont ever.......EVER try to bring in the draw/magic/summon system from FF8 in any way shape or form.













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Originally Posted by Antanias

That was a great system, and only b/c it was something different :D

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Not all change is good.

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Originally Posted by Gramul

Not all change is good.

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Maybe not, but I was free to mix/match my GF's, characters, and spells as I preferred.

I thought 8's system was cool. But I always celebrate when SE does something different in the FF series. Evolution is a good thing.

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Originally Posted by Antanias

That was a great system, and only b/c it was something different :D

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Originally Posted by Antanias

Maybe not, but I was free to mix/match my GF's, characters, and spells as I preferred.

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Because those features totally weren't present in the two prior FF games, and implemented better at that. Mmyup.

Useless thread.

I really liked VIII's junction system, it was a nice fresh take on bettering your stats.

That's not to say it'd fit in XIV, I really don't think those mechanics would work in what's being planned.

I thought it was really cool

I don't even know why do you think they would add this in FFXIV...

I liked Final Fantasy VIII's draw system.

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Originally Posted by lololink

I don't even know why do you think they would add this in FFXIV...

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Exactly, it simply wouldn't work and we already have MP. ( there was no MP in VIII)

While the system in VIII wasn't bad, this thread has nothing to do on a FFXIV forum.

I do not even know why this thread was proposed.. :|

I think drawing magic sucked. One time I forgot to draw carbuncle. pissed me off.

The problem with VIII wasn't the draw system, not at all. It's so easy to get spells in that game that you don't even need to draw anything except GF.

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Originally Posted by Hypnotic13371337

SE, please dont ever.......EVER try to bring in the draw/magic/summon system from FF8 in any way shape or form.

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The FFVIII Junction System allowed for the most in depth character optimization of any Final Fantasy. The only two things that have to be done to make it Casual Friendly are: Increase the Rate of Drawing Spells and Prevent Stats from lowering as spells are cast by Locking in the Bonus given at Spell Junctioning until the user removes that specific spell from the junction.

well using some spells that would lower you stats when you use them could have been a good idea but the stats changed too slowly ( 1 / 100 by spell used ) and we couldn't get them back after the fight or after a while , Golden sun and the djinn system was a lot like FF8 system but better

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Originally Posted by Amherst

Because those features totally weren't present in the two prior FF games, and implemented better at that. Mmyup.

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No Final Fantasy prior to VIII let the player completely customize/optimize their character stats.
No Final Fantasy Prior to VIII locked Summon learned ability to having the summon equipped.

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Originally Posted by Kiote

No Final Fantasy prior to VIII let the player completely customize/optimize their character stats.

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Customize is a bit of a joke considering you just boosted every single stat by X amount...or you didn't have enough and in the end only boosted it by Y instead. "Optimize" is rendered completely pointless since, as with almost every other game in the series, eventually you're just hitting everything for 9999 (multiple times or otherwise) anyway.

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Originally Posted by Kiote

No Final Fantasy Prior to VIII locked Summon learned ability to having the summon equipped.

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I don't see how that's supposed to be a good thing.

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Originally Posted by Amherst

Customize is a bit of a joke considering you just boosted every single stat by X amount...or you didn't have enough and in the end only boosted it by Y instead. "Optimize" is rendered completely pointless since, as with almost every other game in the series, eventually you're just hitting everything for 9999 (multiple times or otherwise) anyway.

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There is a big difference between grinding your characters to level 99 so you can walk through the final fight and Creating a Full party of Characters that are immune to all Status Effects, absorbs all Elements, and have every stat capped at closer to level 50.

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Originally Posted by Amherst

I don't see how that's supposed to be a good thing.

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It adds depth to the summons instead of making them just an egregiously over powered special attack.

Enough of this shenanigans. This idea has already been borrowed, but I want the devs to revamp and improve Materia. I feel so far its just in ffxiv in name. You can buy high level materia, or place your bet in luck, which is kind of lame in my opinion.

I want Materia to gain experience, and grow while I have them equipped. I want to find rare materia just like the good old days.

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Originally Posted by Kiote

There is a big difference between grinding your characters to level 99 so you can walk through the final fight and Creating a Full party of Characters that are immune to all Status Effects, absorbs all Elements, and have every stat capped at closer to level 50.



It adds depth to the summons instead of making them just an egregiously over powered special attack.

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You could do that in FF 7 and 6 >.>

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Originally Posted by Firon

You could do that in FF 7 and 6 >.>

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that is true. I remember in FF7 the different materia combos you can make, especially if you level the materia to maximum.

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Originally Posted by Hypnotic13371337

SE, please dont ever.......EVER try to bring in the draw/magic/summon system from FF8 in any way shape or form.

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Where is the "Unlike" button? FF8 System was pretty awesome and it wasn't even one of my favorite FF games. Though you don't have to worry about something like that, the draw system really wouldn't work too well with an MMO setting.

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Originally Posted by Dargoth_Draconia

Where is the "Unlike" button?

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cant tell if srs

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Originally Posted by Kiote

No Final Fantasy prior to VIII let the player completely customize/optimize their character stats.

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I'm sorry. Would you like me to show you my Locke Cole with 4 times the speed of any of my other party members? You can manipulate stats rather effectively in FFVI, but it involves either learning all spells on all characters first, or locking certain Espers. VIII gives more immediate control of stats, if that's what you mean. The fact is you CAN swap Espers around in VI, and it was a smoother system because you weren't totally nerfed by removing them. I would rather not have to reconfigure all my magic junction if I accidentally removed 1 GF.

@OP: I doubt they'd add something like that. The Draw system to me is basically designed around the idea of MP syphon. We'll see MP drain abilities, I'm sure, but nothing that quantifies magic the way Draw does. I liked the draw system, but thought it was overkill when they tied it to your stats. And summon junctions? What makes you think they'd do that when they've already told us how SMN will work?

Amen. I'd also like the next FF do a battle system with some player control included instead of these XII and XIII games that seem to have fun all by themselves.

As a gamer I feel left out watching the characters backflip and spellcast the enemies into a pulp while I'm drinking coffee and waiting for the moment when button presses will be required. I literally leveled through XII with my left foot while studying for exams.

XII was pretty awesome because of the deep gambit system at the very least, compared to XIII where you characters just do whatever they want and you have no control over them except for their jobs. XII took on the offline but online feel kind of game and without the gambit system you would've been screwed in a game that isn't a turn based system.

Bring Back Chocobo Catcher from FFX everyone loved that so much....

Having been on a personal mission to play every single-player FF, in order, one per month, this year, I just recently finished VIII (currently on IX!). I can say that the Junction system was alright, but the Draw system aspect sucked. I'd run across an enemy, or even a boss, and end up spending 15+ minutes just drawing to 100 on my characters. It interrupted the flow of the game, in my opinion. Just my two cents, though.

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Originally Posted by Hypnotic13371337

SE, please dont ever.......EVER try to bring in the draw/magic/summon system from FF8 in any way shape or form.













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Now there's a beat we can all dance to.

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Originally Posted by Antanias

That was a great system, and only b/c it was something different :D

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Go to your room.

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Originally Posted by AngelicBeing

Go to your room.

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I don't take orders from lalafell, no cookies for you :D

"Hey guys, I'll be ready to raid in 3 hours. Yeah... yeah I know, the respawn time on this draw point sucks :/"

Or if you prefer the "Pimp my Ride" analogy...

"Yo dawg, I herd you like spells right? So we put stats on your spells so you have to keep your spells while you raise your stats... Wait, you wanted to actually cast your spells? Dawg... "

Yeah, no dice on the draw system >.>