Occult Crescent Gear

After looking at the stat bonuses for the new accessories in OC my question is why is it so freaking BORING? If I'm getting this right an entire fully upgraded left side amounts to a ~12% damage increase and the entire right side amounts to ~5%. Who would even bother grinding so much for such a measly one-role bonus outside of people participating in SUPPOSEDLY illicit parsing activities!?!?

It doesn't need to be anything insane but come the freak on at least make it do SOMETHING different so it feels worthwhile. This is silly one-off side content it doesn't need to be as balanced as the rest of the game.

Why can't the Time Mage gear give a bunch of swiftcast charges? Or drastically increase the length of DoTs and HoTs? Or give a passive cooldown reduction?

Why can't the Berserker gear give you a big fat boost to your health pool and some lifesteal? Or a damage boost when it gets low? Or make you immune to knockbacks and certain status effects in CEs?

Hell why can't I take my weapon from the new extreme and have a haste/movement speed boost that ramps the longer a fight goes on? Or the weapon from the one before that give a small chance to doom trash mobs?

Where is the CREATIVITY? Where is the PASSION? WHERE ARE THE RPG ELEMENTS!?!?

It's like the +10 stat grinds in Bozja. They exist for only one type of player. People who like huge grinds. They know most players will ignore it and not do it.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

It's like the +10 stat grinds in Bozja. They exist for only one type of player. People who like huge grinds. They know most players will ignore it and not do it.

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These stats don’t even appeal to those players (I know I am one) because rays and elemental armour allowed you to play the game fundamentally differently because haste changed your rotation and defence meant you can play the jobs in odd ways being more defensive than you should be

Having each accessory or piece of gear be 0.9% damage and nothing else is boring and pointless ESPECIALLY when its own effect is minimised by the fact that even if you have full +2 gear and all 5 accessories you are still getting more relative damage from passive mastery stacks

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

It's like the +10 stat grinds in Bozja. They exist for only one type of player. People who like huge grinds. They know most players will ignore it and not do it.

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I disagree. The medals grind did give you a huge bonus. First of all, it gave survavibility to dps. Here it just does not, nothing boost your hp or defense, you stay very squishy. Honestly, the bonus gave so much edge I could Tank DRN as a summoner, while also being the heal of the team in giving 100k health back to the whole team. the medals changed so much in the grind.

Gear barely change anything. Sure you hit a little harder, but medals madals and logos/lost action made the whole thing fun. Here phantom jobs are at best a gimmick, at worst useless, and the whole thing is just kinda boring. And that's coming from someone who farmed every Eureka and ShB relics.

I have to say the addition of Ultra potion made the survavibility a litte better, but you still can get killed only by raid wides if your heal sucks or there is no heal in your party (something you don't have any kind of control). I'm not gonna push further (I already made a thread on why I though OC was a miss), but this is another miss for me. I'm really curious about the japanese reaction to thos drop-rates.

And that's not even talking about the stupid (only 20 people can get pot fate). Everything in OC is made to get frustrated.

Having a huge bonus or a little bonus on damage is boring, period. The amount isn't magically gonna make it funnier.

Fully agree with OP. They could go whack with that kind of content yet they don't. The best we've had were lost actions and logograms, that's about it. Gear in Eureka and Bozja was miserably tedious and boring. Actually ironically, even if the stats were boring because substats, one piece of content that did looting better was Diadem 1.0, even if the rest was just not it, change my mind.

I agree that the gear has been boring so far. It is simply more damage and while more damage is nice... I wish there was something else. I wish we got haste, at least, to have crazier rotations.

However, if they are not going to do this, at least give us some sort of healing/defense bonus for non-tanks from gear, items similar to the Eureka sustaining potions, or other sources.

CEs can become quite miserable as a DPS if no one heals or shields you, since taking even a single vulnerability stack can kill you whereas tanks are fully immune to this problem. They do not even need to be in a party because they are completely self-sufficient and can generate lots of enmity quickly for gold rank in FATEs. As a result, tanks are often solo while non-tanks end up in parties with less than 8 members, which greatly reduces their survival and forces them to play perfectly all the time or risk dying and being on the floor for minutes if no one can resurrect. Some CEs outright kill you over time even if playing well (e.g. the berserker, mythic idol, and purple bird ones) due to featuring lots of raidwide attacks in succession.

If you need further proof of this, just check the adventurer list when you get inside: it is quite common for the majority of an instance to be populated by tanks (WAR and PLD specifically), with healers being quite scarce. This issue did not exist in Eureka or Bozja because you had defensive options, some of which were decent for damage, such as Essence of the Beast combined with Lost Assassination.

So the accessories are a tiny damage boost, and no defense or added survival ability for casuals who might want to run FTB? What’s the point?

OC was closed on patch day, so I went in a few days later to check out the new jobs… two of which are purchasable again. Do they really think anyone wants to gold farm at this point? Or run the same handful of Fates over and over again, for a second time? Either FTB should have had a Normal mode (I will never get over that), or they should’ve split the content into 3 zones for some more variety. I’ll level the 3 new jobs for the completionist in me, but I can’t say I’m looking forward to it, at all.

I leveled up the three new jobs. While they may have some utility for FT raiders, as a solo player they're very boring and add nothing to my existing options. I don't find mob farming for gold fun (I loved cluster farming in Bozja, but this is a much worse experience), I'm glad the pot coffers were changed to give gold instead of worthless gil but they're too unreliable to use as a farm method. So I've given up on upgrading gear to +1, not that there's much point to doing so anyway. The accessories are not interesting at all, in either their stats or in the obscene grind to get them.

The drops rates for it are just way too small. https://gacha.infi.ovh/occult?territory=1&coffer=1596

And we still have no idea what the droprate is from the CEs.

I think the droprates are good. Having a 50m drop from a bronze chest is a nice thing to have. "Casuals" dont need them anyway, so they can luck a good bunch of gil out of it

the thrill of randomly getting 50m makes opening the chests or doing CEs atleast 1000 times more interesting

Occult crescent has been a massive disappointment for creativity. Which makes sense looking at the general direction of the game.

You want fun intresting Phantom job actions too bad.
You want passives/skills that could possibly change a role from a tank to a healer, healer to dps ECT. too bad

Its so insane to me that bozja had limited use actions and potions which were dumb but actually pulled off a more creative version then OC which should have been a improvement on bozja, they also have 5 extra skills to work with instead of 2, yet Bozja's job customization is 100x better.

I just wish they made this side content have creative builds considering we can't have anything interesting happen to jobs in the base game or raiders will rage and cry that jobs are unique.

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Originally Posted by CNitsah

I disagree. The medals grind did give you a huge bonus. First of all, it gave survavibility to dps. Here it just does not, nothing boost your hp or defense, you stay very squishy. Honestly, the bonus gave so much edge I could Tank DRN as a summoner, while also being the heal of the team in giving 100k health back to the whole team. the medals changed so much in the grind.

Gear barely change anything. Sure you hit a little harder, but medals madals and logos/lost action made the whole thing fun. Here phantom jobs are at best a gimmick, at worst useless, and the whole thing is just kinda boring. And that's coming from someone who farmed every Eureka and ShB relics.

I have to say the addition of Ultra potion made the survavibility a litte better, but you still can get killed only by raid wides if your heal sucks or there is no heal in your party (something you don't have any kind of control). I'm not gonna push further (I already made a thread on why I though OC was a miss), but this is another miss for me. I'm really curious about the japanese reaction to thos drop-rates.

And that's not even talking about the stupid (only 20 people can get pot fate). Everything in OC is made to get frustrated.

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I'm guessing they wanted to supplant rays with buffs provided by specific jobs from knowledge crystals. I would still prefer rays from Bozja.

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Originally Posted by TeresaFortell

I'm guessing they wanted to supplant rays with buffs provided by specific jobs from knowledge crystals. I would still prefer rays from Bozja.

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The problem is that because of the buff limit most of those end up being a hinderance anyway.

Romeo’s is basically useless for everyone since nobody levels by mob chaining and even gold farming parties have basically died since pots started giving gold. Fleetfooted is really only useful overworld exploration and shell is basically built into forked towers expected mitigation plan anyway since neither armour nor mastery stacks give defence.

So the only one that has counted anything is DNC’s one

And the new freelancer skill basically makes them meaningless anyway since it can just reset all 4 with zero effort anyway

I miss elemental gear. That was so worth it in Eureka.

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Originally Posted by DarkOmegaGod

Where is the CREATIVITY? Where is the PASSION? WHERE ARE THE RPG ELEMENTS!?!?

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50 years ago wow game designers gave people Deathbringer's Will

SE game designers in 2025: best i can do 1% damage boost which is 6% in full set. Not stepping 1 centimeter off formula!

You can tell how little creativity went into the sets because the special attribute that only works in OC is literally named 'Special Attribute'. It's like they shipped it with a placeholder name and never updated it.

For the OP, Berserker's ability (where you go mad and autoattack for big damage) does prevent knockbacks, mind controls, etc. Beyond that, I agree, there could be far more creativity in these sets, given they're side content and balance doesn't matter as much

I'd like to see them do a Relic Armour grind where we augment the AF gear throughout the series. Like Anemos (letting us dye the AF) but with actual progression instead of 'you can now dye it' as the final reward.

Give us a 3/5 set bonus for each Job, that gets higher values at each upgrade level. For example:

WAR 3 set: Each time you use a weaponskill, Equilibrium's CD is reduced by 1 second.
WAR 5 set: Each time you spend Beast Gauge, you gain a stack of 'Bestial Frenzy'. For each stack you have, your GCD is decreased by 1%. Gaining a new stack refreshes the duration.

GNB 3 set: When Brutal Shell is broken or expires, automatically Draw a Cartridge from the targetted enemy, and reduce Aurora's CD by 5 seconds.
GNB 5 set: Double Down can now be followed up by Fire Cross by using Continuation after Double Down. Fire Cross has the same AOE as Double Down, and deals 400p to all enemies in its AOE.

SGE 3 set: When a SGE barrier breaks, it is replaced by 'Second Opinion' for 6 seconds. Pepsis can consume Second Opinion to heal the target for 300p. Phlegma and Psyche trigger Kardia on all party members.
SGE 5 set. Psyche's CD is reduced to 30s. When E.Diagnosis/E.Prognosis breaks, grants Psychosis, allowing for a use of Psyche without regard for its cooldown. Using Psyche reduces the CD of Phlegma by 5 seconds.

NIN 3 set: Using Fleeting/Forked Raiju grants a stack of 'Raijin's Fury'. All Raijin's Fury stacks are consumed to empower Fuma Shuriken's potency, by 300p per stack consumed. Stacks up to 3 times.
NIN 5 set: When using Fuma Shuriken, Bunshin's Shadow Clones also use Fuma Shuriken, striking for 100% of your own Fuma Shuriken's potency. If your Fuma Shuriken was empowered by Raijin's Fury, the Clone's is also empowered.


IDK I'm not exactly the most creative person but I'm sure there's better ideas SE could come up with than just 'Special Attribute'. On the flipside though, this is now the 3rd time they've taken a stab at Chemist (first try became AST/MCH, second try became SGE), at least to my understanding. And OC Chemist is 'you have Benediction on a GCD but it costs 10k per use', 'you have Manafont on a GCD but it costs 10k per use', 'you have Res on a 5s CD (and it's a weaponskill) that is free', and 'you have a partywide Benediction AND Manafont, but it costs 300k per use'. Where's the Mixing, the thing the Chemist is known for? I hate to be the person going 'I could have done better' but like... I actually could, because OC Chemist set the bar so low

So maybe 'Special Attribute' really is the limit of their creativity with this side content stuff, or maybe they were hoping that the Phantom Job kits would be enough (they're not)

Make something too strong and people will feel left out. Make it too weak and nobody's going to bother. Difficult to strike a balance between all different mindsets.

What constitutes ‘too strong’ in this context, though? Elemental Armor & 7 Magicites are probably the strongest ‘upgrades’ any players can get in Field Contents, but did anybody really complained about not having it?

Meanwhile in OC there were complaints about tanks being overpowered yet again (is that a surprise atp? lol), but all venues of upgrades they presented to us, none of them offers any ways to alleviate sustain problem on red jobs. Sure, ph.PLD/DNC/Oracle/MNK has those, but what if they want to level other PJs that don’t necessarily have the needed sustains? Armor/Accessory/Job Mastery Stacks could’ve been the solution for these dilemma but alas, they decided not to & opt for dps increase that is not quite noticeable unless you glue your eyes to the popping numbers in-game or somewhere else.

Funnily enough also: they seemed to avoid adding ANY Skill Speed/Spell Speed at all into these pieces. It was quite fun experimenting & playing around with things like MNK Greased Lightning, NIN's built-in old Futon, BLM Leyline, and WHM's PoM that happens to reduce some phantom actions' timers. We could influence this further when accessories were still ‘free slots’ by using any i700 or higher pieces with SkS/SpS, but now with the inclusion of full OC set, I guess we’re not allowed to get creative with phantom action cooldown & GCD tiering too unless we wanna gimp ourselves, huh?

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Originally Posted by Rithy255

[…]I just wish they made this side content have creative builds considering we can't have anything interesting happen to jobs in the base game or raiders will rage and cry that jobs are unique.

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Freelancer was the one people hoped for when it comes to mix-matching those actions. There were a lot potentials if they just allow us to have 2-5 slots to pick whichever actions that we have mastered from other PJs with some limitations i.e. no bonus from traits and/or slot 1 only allow the use of first phantom action & no other, slot 2 only allow 2nd phantom action & no other… but alas, lol.