There is dire need for a new glamour system.

The game really needs to get rid of the whole glamour system and make something better from ground up, glamour prisms as a pseudo currency and limited slots for clothes you want to have is so antiquated that games with a focus on fashion don't do this for decades now.

• Not just that but class restrictions are becoming less and less sensical, specially as the game goes on and sets are becoming more homogenized, The vanguard set of fending and maiming have literally the same model but in different colors, and that's just to name one out many from across jobs, so am i wasting double the slots on my glamour dresser for literally the same model, this is ridiculous

• There is even worse cases like this one specific leg piece that i like from the makai PvP sets, they are all the same exact model for every single different role, but i need to occupy 6 slots for them because i need one for each and because of that there are 5 slots being wasted just on this single leg piece that looks exactly the same, no matter the job.

• Not just that but all the "modern" themed sets, eg.: the cruise raid gear, can't even have the excuse of "job identity" for that lock between each job because they are just different types of shirts, jackets and pants anyway.

• On top of that we already have sets of gear like the Fierce Tyrant's and Archfiend PvP sets who are full plate armors that healers and ranged dps can use already, so not even the "medieval" set are safe from this rule

We should just unlock the appearance of any item we acquire for the glamour dresser and then be able to use them however we want it, with whatever job we want it, no slots nor prisms needed, it is atrocious that a game that has such large community and focus on fashion like final fantasy XIV have such inadequate and convoluted system.

"It would be ridiculous to see a tank wearing White Mage-like robes" - the kind of old argument that fortunately I don't see much nowadays, except from Yoshida himself a couple of years ago.

Unrestricted glamour has absolutely ZERO potential to make characters potentially more ridiculous than you can today.

Those changes in the OP are the kind of thing that we can see in the NA Fanfest as a selling point. If it's not there, I'm afraid it won't happen for another expansion.

only thing is that artifact armor stay class locked for obvious reason

There is a dire need for alot of things, but does Square Enix have the time, people and money to do something about it?

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Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails

only thing is that artifact armor stay class locked for obvious reason

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I think this would be the most reasonable option. Leave the artifact gear locked to its iconic class, unlock everything else.

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Originally Posted by PercibelTheren

I think this would be the most reasonable option. Leave the artifact gear locked to its iconic class, unlock everything else.

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rare are the people who agree not gonna lie and they somewhat tried something with bonewicca and the tower of not armor to kinda mix some together. But we'll lack of option over all not gonna lie

They need to remove class/job restrictions and just lift the glamour book from FFXIV mobile into this game, including how dyes work.

The glamour dresser is horrible.

I agree with wanting rolec specific gear. But what is the F point when we've got school uniforms, springbreak beach rejects, and pink dyed tonberies announcing the dicks they are. Especially all the frogs, elephants, and chipmunks. F me. I would actually really like half the glams to be flagged as non battle, and for them to be disabled in such content. Revert to other glam, revert to the gear underneath.

But if you can't do that just forget role specific gear. It really makes 'no' difference. In fact it's just a fiction.

Glams, canonically, are just an illusion of magic over layed onto what you are actually wearing.

Why is there any restrictions at all? It canonically makes absolutely no sense.

Considering they keep doubling down on the jank, I wouldn't hold your breath. The "outfit" system is yet another layer on the shit cake.

Given how Hot Topic puke is the norm now there should be no restrictions and enough for at the very least 1 for each job in the game period.

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Originally Posted by PercibelTheren

I think this would be the most reasonable option. Leave the artifact gear locked to its iconic class, unlock everything else.

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Agree, but along with this, allow ALL artifact gear to be stored in the Armoire. They added headers in there for separation when they made all cash shop gear able to go in there. Give us a tab or a header for each expansion’s AF gear, and make all versions of it Armoire storable. Thinking in particular of the only sets that can go in there now, you can’t put the dyeable version in there, even though dyeing is irrelevant to Armoire stuff anyways. Or the other sets that the dyeable version has a different name, like Anemos or Idealized.

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Originally Posted by Ardeth

Given how Hot Topic puke is the norm now there should be no restrictions and enough for at the very least 1 for each job in the game period.

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Please, give me edgy hot topic glamours over the usual limsa/venue glamours like everyone lives in Los Angeles or Shinjuku-cho...

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Originally Posted by Raoabolic

Please, give me edgy hot topic glamours over the usual limsa/venue glsmours like everyone lives in Los Angeles or Shinjuku-cho...

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Trust me all of that is also bad. It's just this notion that you can't have casters in full plate, but tanks can dress as whores and they don't lose an ounce of armor. Their excuse is laughable at this point. And by the way, they could do that in ARR so it's even more bullshit.

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Originally Posted by Raikai

"It would be ridiculous to see a tank wearing White Mage-like robes" - the kind of old argument that fortunately I don't see much nowadays, except from Yoshida himself a couple of years ago.

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Ironically, in the meantime, we got the Tyrant PVP set, so you can now wear a full plate as WHM (or any other job). Somehow that isn't an issue :3

i would also really like glamour to be unrestricted. i really want to wear the neo-ishgardian top of casting on my botanist. it looks so good with the dirndl skirt, i look like a maid!! like you're telling me that top would only be worn by a caster?! ;__;

Agreed, total rework. Should be like the collections journal in WoW, to be honest. Totally account bound, used on all characters.

WoW takes and improves upon ideas from FFXIV, to the point where it now has everything XIV has to offer and more. Meanwhile, FFXIV is lacking in so many areas including things being shared through your account. Glams, mounts, and pets should 100% be accessible to all alts.

FFXIV could improve upon WoW's by letting all jobs glam the gear + making it account bound, tbh. And no level locking if you got it at that level as a drop. (For example, say your Bard is a lower level than your Machinist who got the drop - you still would be able to use it on your bard even if your Machinist was of higher level and got that gear piece at that higher level.)

I've been screaming for this for years coming from WoW. Making outfits is so much better over there. I don't want to hear any excuses about spaghetti code or whatever, WoW did it on an engine that's a full decade older.

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Originally Posted by TDawnstar

Ironically, in the meantime, we got the Tyrant PVP set, so you can now wear a full plate as WHM (or any other job). Somehow that isn't an issue :3

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I'd say even before those... the art direction of some set collections, purposedly designed that way, scream against the argument. Radiant Mail of Healing, or the more recent Yuweyawata fending set looking like a caster frilly set.

I don't have a problem with artifact armor remaining restricted to its job, but the restrictions should be lifted everywhere else. Look at all those poor catgirls forces to stand around on BSM to wear their chestwraps.

The limitations of the Dresser and Armoire are a separate issue from the class restrictions, but there's got to be a better way.

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Originally Posted by TheRealDesastr

Agreed, total rework. Should be like the collections journal in WoW, to be honest. Totally account bound, used on all characters.

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Honestly I would be even okay if it's not account-wide (even tho it would be preferrable), as long as it's at least something like a fashion journal.

Main issue with current restriction seems to be that what we can glamour is intricately tied to what we can actively equip, which is why we also cannot use items of a higher level than ours (as in, if I'm a PCT at level 80, I can't wear glamour that is using a level 100 item). This means that in order to make glamour unrestricted, it needs a new system entirely, where the item actually becomes just an appearance data, not tied to the gear's de-facto attributes. Fashion journal would solve that problem.

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Originally Posted by NovaStella

The artifact armor contains some of my favorite pieces in the game. Having everything else unlocked but the pieces I really want to use for other classes would be a bit of a slap in the face. You still have to level the class to get it, that’s good enough for me?

Plus, having glams break between the same role because “oh, this robe can only be used on black mage, but this similar robe is fine for summoner” is pretty annoying.

Maybe my class fantasy is not looking like a dweeb in a robe and beanie every time I switch to a different caster outside of a sanctuary. TT__TT

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but artifact armor are the armor exclusive to the job the armor that represents it so would make no sense to have it unlock on all other job.

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Originally Posted by Halivel

Honestly I would be even okay if it's not account-wide (even tho it would be preferrable), as long as it's at least something like a fashion journal.

Main issue with current restriction seems to be that what we can glamour is intricately tied to what we can actively equip, which is why we also cannot use items of a higher level than ours (as in, if I'm a PCT at level 80, I can't wear glamour that is using a level 100 item). This means that in order to make glamour unrestricted, it needs a new system entirely, where the item actually becomes just an appearance data, not tied to the gear's de-facto attributes. Fashion journal would solve that problem.

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Would something akin to the method used for the Resistance Weapon Replica and replica Manderville relic weapons work?

Namely, once you've unlocked the primary level xx/xxx item, you can purchase a level 1 replica of it which you can then put in the glam dresser.

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Originally Posted by Carin-Eri

Would something akin to the method used for the Resistance Weapon Replica and replica Manderville relic weapons work?

Namely, once you've unlocked the primary level xx/xxx item, you can purchase a level 1 replica of it which you can then put in the glam dresser.

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It will probably cause a massive bloat in the amount of "gear" items since they're still sort of physical (as you can buy them and have them in your inventory), but yes, something like that could work potentially.

I remember suggesting something similar for accessories specifically a few years back somewhere during Shadowbringers, during one of the QA that they gathered questions for on the forums. Namely, what I offered was to also feature a lvl 1 drop from the same coffers that will be just a glamour item that looks the same as the gear presented in the dungeon. Because if you want to wear the same, let's say, necklace on all your jobs - you need five of them.

My question then wasn't featured, sadly, but I still hope that they'll do something about that. Earrings and necklaces in particular are my glamour nemesis, because you want to have 2 items appearance-wise and they end up taking up 10 slots due to job limitations.