Master Levels. Merit Points And Reworking Fates Hunts in 8,0 and more

Fate Log Unlock this at max level. it show you list fates each area in whole game. each time a player completes a fate they gain new type experience. then be used to increase your master levels when gain master level you gain a merit point tells the player what rewards fates give name of fate is spawn time. how many times you done the fate. and master level experience chain bonus for completing them yes doing same fate muiti-times gives you extreme experience bonus


Master levels
For every single master level you gain 10+ all your stats. 25+ all tenacity, Determination, skill speed, spell speed ect 1000 + HP Per level as long have Fate log you can gain master levels at any level on any job as long as you complete fates. also spend your master level experience to buy gear . mounts whatever. so ya you be grinding alot hunts and fates enjoy

in 8.0 there is 25-50 master levels to gain

Master Levels Grind Master Levels are seriously grindy it at least take a player 9 months to reach max master level . were levelling 100-110 only take take couple of days 9 months if only you speed run it advantage player take about year or so however msq isnt locked behind master-level grind and gain master level experience for doing your msg however master levels effect every job you have. at any level however you do not Transend there stat caps

Hunts always been nice apart of of the game. it brought ppl together got people adventuring the world. we be introducing savage/ultimate level hunts in the game instead having queue for them. these boss level monsters be tooned handle more single group of 8 people. making alliance raiding not just locked behind a queue

whole thing is behind this get people start exploring world of final fantasy 14 instead sitting down in fc house getting bored unless there queue pops whatever raid they want to do while using resources we already have currently in the game that no one does for someone reason but now you kinda have too

[B]Fates rewards and Hunt Items[B] series new items players can find doing hunts and fates increased like new bardings new outfits new glamour new mounts . really nice gear there long list of rewards

Treasure Dungeons Treasure dungeons also give Master Level experence and increased rewards

Merits Points This is player customization somewhat to skill tree. player can select from list and put points into them this will increase performance of there favourite abilities or grant them complete new abilities they don't have add to there spell tree. also merit abilities not level unlocked when you unsync you can use them. they are quite powerful. no matter what the player choices with merit points they are all equal in power limit the chances of players creating metas or cookie cutter builds

reaching max level on merit points grants you access to three choices of your new limit break 1 each different not superior anyway to other it down to personal preference. these are personal limit breaks instead of having them linked together evryone in your party however limit break 3 still game but limit break 1-2 are removed cause they lack most ppl like animations of 3 only use 1/2 only if your dps in dungeons what not


Grand Company Changes You gain better rewards from all levels more reason spend require GC-Seals that gonna collect giving gear all way up 100 both crafter and battle craft

Flying Sauser now give more items to the casual player that will rotate every mouth

objective is stop people being lazy getting bored and explore world final fantasy 14 instead of procastating not having anything to do quiet the game cause lack of content for them to do watch they do have content they just dont want to do it forever reason. ff14 players are lazy bunch think we need stop the laziness or encourage them to be lazy

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Originally Posted by HanakoTheGoth

objective is stop people being lazy getting bored and explore world final fantasy 14 instead of procastating not having anything to do quiet the game cause lack of content for them to do watch they do have content they just dont want to do it forever reason. ff14 players are lazy bunch think we need stop the laziness or encourage them to be lazy

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Why do you care how players spend their time in the game, you do not pay their sub so it's not your concern what they do with it. It's not the first ludicrous reasoning I've seen from you though...

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Originally Posted by Kurando

Why do you care how players spend their time in the game, you do not pay their sub so it's not your concern what they do with it. It's not the first ludicrous reasoning I've seen from you though...

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normally wouldnt care but game lost 26 billion dollers and subs and sinking hard and fast. reason why people leaving cause say they are bored having to do. cant be bothered doing things if this continues game be killed for everyone. myself and you included. they cannot take same route they always taken . its destroying the game. but thing is there is things for them to do but have no reason to do them cause they arent rewarding enough. take no much effort

casual and hardcore communities also dont have much things to do either after some point . you've done it all. not saying thats a bad thing per say but when did they stop adding items ot flying saucer or when have beast tribe quest completed in 9 days says something players want more things to do

we have gold mine already in the game no one takes time look at cause no reason do them no knowledge bout what fates give what rewards you gain. so waiting for specific fate spawn is one thing having help doing them is nother. personal i like hunting and sightseeing logs they were good casual content.

do you want all your hard work disappear cause squire-enix cant afford keep ff14 servers up cause lack of money

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Originally Posted by HanakoTheGoth

objective is stop people being lazy getting bored and explore world final fantasy 14 instead of procastating not having anything to do quiet the game cause lack of content for them to do watch they do have content they just dont want to do it forever reason. ff14 players are lazy bunch think we need stop the laziness or encourage them to be lazy

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Ignoring the accusation of laziness, your solution to the lack of content is a long grind involving existing content that people may not want to engage with? Why not make interesting content instead? And how do maser levels fit in with the rest of the game? It would be a balancing disaster if they influenced stats in almost any content, or players would have to be the maximum level for balance reasons which would lock them out of content for months for no reason. Trying to use a shiny carrot to justify dull activities is never a good idea.

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Fate Log

objective is stop people being lazy getting bored and explore world final fantasy 14 instead of procastating not having anything to do quiet the game cause lack of content for them to do watch they do have content they just dont want to do it forever reason. ff14 players are lazy bunch think we need stop the laziness or encourage them to be lazy

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It’s not the players that are lazy, it’s the devs. The game has plenty of systems, but they’re all given a shelf life of a few months, or stretched artificially with ridiculously low drop rates just to pad out a patch cycle.

Sync Old Expert lvl dungeons up to the lowest player’s ilvl so they stay relevant.

Increase weekly tomes to at least 900, or give each class its own personal tome cap.

Item trading - let us swap unwanted drops for something useful, or allow limited-time trades at the end of fights.

Open-world content - create Bozja-style content in the open world that rewards tomes/exp for players at max level.

Relic weapons should be available from the start of an expansion, not years later.

Exploration content (like Cosmic) should drop at launch, when everyone’s levelling multiple classes.

Upscale old dungeons each patch to Extreme/Savage difficulty, rewarding mounts and minions that are no longer obtainable.

Change savage/normal raids to a 1 item per class cap - enabling players to play more

The systems are there, but they’re never pushed far enough, or they’re released too late to matter. That’s on the devs, not the players.

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Originally Posted by HanakoTheGoth

normally wouldnt care but game lost 26 billion dollers and subs and sinking hard and fast.

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What game "lost" 26 billion dollars? FFXIV? Hardly. The entire Digital Entertainment sector of Square Enix had net sales of about 1.5 billion US dollars over the 2025 fiscal year.

Operating income (profit) for the company as a whole was around 276 million US dollars in FY2025, up about 55 million US dollars from FY2024. [Note that SE reports things in yen, and the company had overall net sales of 324 billion yen, or just over 2.2 billion US dollars in FY2025).

The company is profitable; the game is not on the verge of financial collapse.

You might as well have used "26 gajillion dollars".

Financially, Square Enix is doing better. That says nothing about the coming year, but the MMO division still made a profit in FY2026/Q1.

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Originally Posted by DPZ2

What game "lost" 26 billion dollars? FFXIV? Hardly. The entire Digital Entertainment sector of Square Enix had net sales of about 1.5 billion US dollars over the 2025 fiscal year.

Operating income (profit) for the company as a whole was around 276 million US dollars in FY2025, up about 55 million US dollars from FY2024. [Note that SE reports things in yen, and the company had overall net sales of 324 billion yen, or just over 2.2 billion US dollars in FY2025).

The company is profitable; the game is not on the verge of financial collapse.

You might as well have used "26 gajillion dollars".

Financially, Square Enix is doing better. That says nothing about the coming year, but the MMO division still made a profit in FY2026/Q1.

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All of their threads are backed up by "trust me bro, I made it up"
Engaging with this person is just a waste of brain cells.

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Originally Posted by HanakoTheGoth

normally wouldnt care but game lost 26 billion dollers and subs and sinking hard and fast

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Whatever you are smoking you need to stop, immediately.

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Originally Posted by PyurBlue

Ignoring the accusation of laziness, your solution to the lack of content is a long grind involving existing content that people may not want to engage with? Why not make interesting content instead? And how do maser levels fit in with the rest of the game? It would be a balancing disaster if they influenced stats in almost any content, or players would have to be the maximum level for balance reasons which would lock them out of content for months for no reason. Trying to use a shiny carrot to justify dull activities is never a good idea.

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I dont know am not dev. but if they did it 11 and people enjoyed it there 14 can do it in there own unique way final fantasy 11 still active to this day. believe it or not alot of monster designs from 11 was copy and pasted to 14 so not long shot to believe they come up with something simular for 14 cause master levels and merits points was well recieved in 11

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Originally Posted by DPZ2

What game "lost" 26 billion dollars? FFXIV? Hardly. The entire Digital Entertainment sector of Square Enix had net sales of about 1.5 billion US dollars over the 2025 fiscal year.

Operating income (profit) for the company as a whole was around 276 million US dollars in FY2025, up about 55 million US dollars from FY2024. [Note that SE reports things in yen, and the company had overall net sales of 324 billion yen, or just over 2.2 billion US dollars in FY2025).

The company is profitable; the game is not on the verge of financial collapse.

You might as well have used "26 gajillion dollars".

Financially, Square Enix is doing better. That says nothing about the coming year, but the MMO division still made a profit in FY2026/Q1.

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copium. still lost enough piss off there investors watch demanding change. must you forget squire-enix is a business and money talks its not player base makes them change its the profits watch they make. this is there flag ship franchise at the moment. and numbers are dropping alarming rate people are voting with there wallets either way they have do something. in they will do something didnt have too before now they kinda do. in the end its people who pay there paychecks. make that company want it is today. if people voting with there wallets bloody well know they gonna change.

only a retard keeps making same mistakes expecting bette results. and squire-enix needs learn that now

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Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane

It’s not the players that are lazy, it’s the devs. The game has plenty of systems, but they’re all given a shelf life of a few months, or stretched artificially with ridiculously low drop rates just to pad out a patch cycle.

Sync Old Expert lvl dungeons up to the lowest player’s ilvl so they stay relevant.

Increase weekly tomes to at least 900, or give each class its own personal tome cap.

Item trading - let us swap unwanted drops for something useful, or allow limited-time trades at the end of fights.

Open-world content - create Bozja-style content in the open world that rewards tomes/exp for players at max level.

Relic weapons should be available from the start of an expansion, not years later.

Exploration content (like Cosmic) should drop at launch, when everyone’s levelling multiple classes.

Upscale old dungeons each patch to Extreme/Savage difficulty, rewarding mounts and minions that are no longer obtainable.

Change savage/normal raids to a 1 item per class cap - enabling players to play more

The systems are there, but they’re never pushed far enough, or they’re released too late to matter. That’s on the devs, not the players.

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you left out class design being god awful and class balancing making no sense - like in 7.2 lets nerf mch but buff warrior? how is that fair must we talk about every expansion they release how class design has been total failure from the start. them removing abilities countless reworks. putting stuff in game leaving it never changing it , removing abilitys from the game cause they cant be bothered to baliance it or make it work. leaving large holes in the jobs cause there procastating with job deisgn

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Originally Posted by HanakoTheGoth

I dont know am not dev. but if they did it 11 and people enjoyed it there 14 can do it in there own unique way final fantasy 11 still active to this day. believe it or not alot of monster designs from 11 was copy and pasted to 14 so not long shot to believe they come up with something simular for 14 cause master levels and merits points was well recieved in 11

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XI worked at the time it came out, same with WoW - but both games changed, and so did the players. The people who played back then are older now, with jobs, families, responsibilities. They don’t have ten hours a day to grind. What players want is to log in, do something meaningful in 2–3 hours (maybe a bit longer on a weekend), and feel properly rewarded for their time.

The problem with the current design is that so much content is “log in, work towards something, log out, come away with nothing.” That gets boring fast. By the time rewards do feel worthwhile, the content is already at the end of its lifespan - relic weapons being the perfect example.

One thing XI had at 70 cap was variety and value in endgame content. There was a vast amount to do, and almost every piece of gear had purpose. Gear-swapping made even lower-level pieces useful at cap, which kept progression feeling alive and rewarding. That kind of design gave content lasting value - something FFXIV desperately needs but keeps stripping away.

Also, let’s be real - people keep remembering the golden days of FFXI, but that ended the moment they raised the cap to 100, slapped on ilvl sync, and started pushing solo play. That was the turning point where the game lost the very things that made it special.

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Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane

XI worked at the time it came out, same with WoW - but both games changed, and so did the players. The people who played back then are older now, with jobs, families, responsibilities. They don’t have ten hours a day to grind. What players want is to log in, do something meaningful in 2–3 hours (maybe a bit longer on a weekend), and feel properly rewarded for their time.

The problem with the current design is that so much content is “log in, work towards something, log out, come away with nothing.” That gets boring fast. By the time rewards do feel worthwhile, the content is already at the end of its lifespan - relic weapons being the perfect example.

One thing XI had at 70 cap was variety and value in endgame content. There was a vast amount to do, and almost every piece of gear had purpose. Gear-swapping made even lower-level pieces useful at cap, which kept progression feeling alive and rewarding. That kind of design gave content lasting value - something FFXIV desperately needs but keeps stripping away.

Also, let’s be real - people keep remembering the golden days of FFXI, but that ended the moment they raised the cap to 100, slapped on ilvl sync, and started pushing solo play. That was the turning point where the game lost the very things that made it special.

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I kinda agree with you but kinda had to do it. lets hope never happens to 14. in 11 at time players couldn't progress story and new players couldn't get to end game either cause of gate keeping or just not enough players to do missions or quest so they added trust system. however it did ruin what made game special however 11 was old game trust system was designed mostly help new players get to max level however did go little too fair in it. 11 didnt have the numbers ff14 did assist in helpin players do needed group content and leveling

wrong or right cant say it was a bad move on there part. am neutral in it see pros and cons. however merits and master levels where kinda fun when got into them. they where different then typical grind to 100. comes a time in game cycle where if keep doing same thing over and over people also get bored. if ever expansion is predictable. they make no effort in class design like you said leave things as they are sure it will kill this game. cause generational gap players all want different things what would be fun for some others may curse. however its content we need more content haft the player base doesnt even know what fates do what? or give what i saying updating system is nto bad idea but everything you listed also not bad idea. it all matters what they gonna do first cause sure long list stuff they want to do

problem is when expansion comes out. all resources they have the dev team has has to go to creating a new world . new story new monsters new dungeons. if we want a broken class design to be somewhat reworked to be made more stable. this what i am hoping for things becoming stable. clear understanding what your favourite jobs are meant to do not be copies of each other. let say they add new job right how is that new job gonna be different all other jobs. this is big cause now have rebalance the scales so that job all the other jobs stay somewhat relivant this why strongly believe no new jobs need be released in 8.0. they have monstrous task changing how they balance do jobs every expansion after 8.0 new formula so to speak. yes that is needed

what truely ruined master-levels and merit points is when squire-enix realised some stupidly overpowered weapons. these weapons became the norm. if didnt use these weapons you where not allowed to join in on master level farms. unless you payed gil. this was very terrible. this in long ruined end game still have not removed said weapons to this day

Overworld FATEs are somehow less engaging than dungeon bosses. We need fresh content, and it's long overdue for SE to make their zones genuinely interesting for more than just a month. The last thing we need are rewards designed to revive dead content that was never popular for its gameplay — that's just a band-aid solution.

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Originally Posted by brinn12

Overworld FATEs are somehow less engaging than dungeon bosses. We need fresh content, and it's long overdue for SE to make their zones genuinely interesting for more than just a month. The last thing we need are rewards designed to revive dead content that was never popular for its gameplay — that's just a band-aid solution.

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old content this isn't wow where old content isn't used anymore once expansion is done. be frank they add new fates what not every expansion still no one knows anything about them. believe it or not they still update old content. old dungeons get reworked new artiwork added improvements to music so false to assume they dont use old content


If meant this game had better class balience better class dev team I would gladly sarciface new content so we not givin slop. player expectations too high. expect have everything end with nothing

I don't think this will work here, most of the content is very bad, repetitive and uninspired, unlike FFXI and Yoshida is as anti-FFXI as it gets.

I like the Ideas, actually its the first time you suggested something somehow good

You said you wanted more content? How about we add more Fates just under different name.