I know people now will start to complain but i still wanna point out my positive things for it
1. The Alliance Raid, i never thought i see a Wipe Mechanic at the first Boss, and i love it, finally the Alliance Raids are getting a bit spicer not too much but a bit atleast
2. Viera - i really love the change that i can hide my ears with caps, i love the viera aesthetic but i hate the ugly ears so its a clearly win for me, ofc i wish i could just cut off completly the ears but not happen sadly
Story and Dungeon/Trial not done yet
How is your opinion?
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08-05-2025, 08:39 PMAvoSturmfaustFeedback 7.3
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08-05-2025, 08:58 PMDynnDiablosGuess I won't be running that more than once.Quote:
Originally Posted by AvoSturmfaust
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08-05-2025, 09:55 PMSamuraiMiqo
A wipe mechanic at boss one? Joy..alliance raids aren't meant to be frustrating or super spicy, they need to stop with this 'adding stress' crap. I know I'll be laughed at for this opinion, but it's how I feel.
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08-05-2025, 10:40 PMAth192I don't get the point of playing a video game where you can just button mash to win though. Doesn't it bother you playing something so easy you, the player, don't matter? For all intents and purposes, you could be staring at the wall and still pass because alliance raids have been so dull.Quote:
Originally Posted by SamuraiMiqo
I'm just really not into the participation trophy kind of stuff. Expecting to win for no effort isn't my cup of tea. -
08-05-2025, 10:55 PMSamuraiMiqo
Don't get me wrong, I'm not wanting a 'just hit one button and wind' type deal, I'm just unhappy with how mechanics have been handled in DT as a whole. Sadly this leads to the divide in the player base. I'm not saying 'dont make it too easy' but I am saying 'make the mechanics workable.' By this, I feel like the mechs in DT were just sped up and some of them are too fast, not everyone has a great reaction time, or with the 7.2 Trial, I'm not a fan of tells where you have to look at where the weapon is pointed then all of a sudden the floor lights up and you have a second to react. I would prefer more of a tell to assist, if that makes sense?
As for the alliance raid, I've always felt those were meant to be fun in general: multiple groups fighting together to complete a cool storyline while fighting awesome bosses. Again, some of the tells just don't work with me, like the Shadowlord fight with the blades above his head. And if a first boss fight has a wipe mechanic that could wipe the whole alliance, that's just going to build frustration and make things not fun. I've been playing the game for a long time now, and I fully admit, I am not a hardcore raiders by any means, so that's why I do Alliance. I know Yoshida wanted to add stress back, but not everyone wants that. If anything, I'd love to see them implement tiers of sorts, adjustable difficulty for everyone who plays. That way everyone gets their fun and satisfaction. -
08-05-2025, 11:06 PMTomsYoungerBroThis is why people need to stop blaming the community for the poor choices of CBU3. FF14 has alot of players from a lot of different regions, and preferences. There has been plenty of feedback asking for alliance raids to be a little spicier, but there will be plenty that disagree. Its on Square to properly disect feedback and make the right call.Quote:
Originally Posted by SamuraiMiqo
The difficulty of content is just a symptom of bad job design at the end of the day anyway. It forces the content to carry all the weight. -
08-05-2025, 11:12 PMAmiableApkallu
It's day 1. There's nothing wrong with wiping to mechanics in a new fight.
The better questions to ask are: How difficult is it to figure out what people did wrong? How difficult is it to take the correct actions? How many players, and which players, can make a mistake before things fall apart? -
08-05-2025, 11:48 PMAuro_Seldaris
sigh
This is how Thunder God Cid got nerfed.
Look don't get me wrong, to an extent I do think that the average skill level of the playerbase could be higher.... however, I don't like this design direction of "using raiders to drag casuals through hardcore content" and "casuals being strong-armed into doing something that they don't want to do" (savage-tier difficulty stuff). It seems like SE's solution to the "no midcore content" conundrum is just "force everyone to engage with the hardcore content", which is a strange way to interpret that.
However, just because there's one mechanic in an Alliance raid that's a bit more spicy than normal isn't cause to cry for it to be nerfed into oblivion. Again, I'd argue that average skill should be a bit higher now. Or as I put it to a friend... "You're level 100 now, act like it." -
08-06-2025, 12:02 AMAniiseDon't worry, I won't laugh at you for your opinion. It's yours and it's valid. However, I've just finished the alliance raid and tbh, I can't agree. The first boss features some mechanics that can be deadly, as it should, and also a section where the party can wipe when too many are dead.Quote:
Originally Posted by SamuraiMiqo
But it's day 1, guys. Day 1! Give it a few days, people will know what to expect and wiping there will be almost impossible.
That's not savage level difficulty, at all. It's simply seeing and learning.
I actually found the fights quite well tuned. Boss 3 was where I had the most problems I think, but it might be because I was so occupied with raising that I couldn't pay attention to everything that was happening around me. ^^'
I've actually been looking forward to an alliance raid with Nier-Level difficulty. I don't really know if they hit the mark on this one yet. have to do it a few more times to be sure, but it was okay as far as I could tell. Not as easy as Aglaia, at least, and that's always a win in my book. -
08-06-2025, 12:19 AMValenceThe reason older raids (and the older battle system) worked better, aka Mhach and Ivalice, is because those raids weren't built with individual responsibility in mind. Even in the current raids like ShB Nier, EW Myths of the Realm or DT Memories of Vanadiel if you can for the most part just "follow the dorito", aka follow the herd and be safe most of the time even if you can't decipher the visual cues or the mechanics, it doesn't feel extremely compelling to me, when in the previous model the threat level was more aimed at the alliance as a whole. It sometimes generated wipes sure, but it was less singling out "lesser players" from the "good players". It was less binary, and more about everyone being in the same boat and participating at their skill level.Quote:
Originally Posted by SamuraiMiqo
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08-06-2025, 01:35 AMDarty123
Story is top tier this patch
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08-06-2025, 01:39 AMAuro_SeldarisIt's a marginal improvement over 7.0, just like 7.2 was. And honestly, I only half-heartedly say that because of how painfully predictable most all of it was. Including the final boss and the post-credits.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darty123
Is it better than 7.0? Sure. It's not enough to redeem Dawntrail, sorry. -
08-06-2025, 02:02 AMLillyWandsworth
Peak cinema
Next-level
Pure cinematic perfection
Masterclass
S-tier
Top-tier storytelling
God-tier
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08-06-2025, 02:12 AMYodada
The newly added Late Allagan Glam 2nd Dye Channel is beyond pathetic. Who tf greenlights this...
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08-06-2025, 02:20 AMTarossWe never had alliance bosses with wipemechanics. Not Angra Mainyu, or Atomos, or Mother Bomb or the Behemoth...Quote:
Originally Posted by SamuraiMiqo
It's day one. People need to learn. I haven't even started the MSQ due to dayjob myself...
Or as Urianger might possibly say, calmeth thy mammaries. -
08-06-2025, 02:39 AMSuperZaylol NOQuote:
Originally Posted by LillyWandsworth
It's a very mid patch. Very light on content. Sterile. Safe. Flaccid. Not taking any risks.
They are playing everything safe and, as a result, nothing is memorable = WE DON'T CARE. Come and gone, like a gust of wind through the swamp.
I would even say it... le gasp! not worth the sub fee. Because that's how I genuinely feel. -
08-06-2025, 02:45 AMDarty123Pretty sure they took a risk with difficulty options in Deep dungeon , They took a risk with diadem in heavensward and it failed, Eureka was a rough launch, Bozja was well loved. They do take SOME risks.Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperZay
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08-06-2025, 02:50 AMSamuraiMiqoEr...I think she may have been meaning to come off as sarcasticQuote:
Originally Posted by SuperZay
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08-06-2025, 02:56 AMLillyWandsworth
Unfortunately sarcasm is very difficult to convey in text form
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08-06-2025, 10:52 AMangienessyoWe have! Angra Mainyu you can pretty easily wipe the whole raid if a tank is new. Also back when the Ivalice raids were new you could insta wipe if people ignored the sand orbs on Hashmal because they would explode and do so much damage it would be a wipe. Orbonne had a similar mechanic where if you placed the big growing orbs in the wrong spot they would wipe the whole raid when they touched.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taross
As for my actual feedback, the alliance raid was really fun! The trial and dungeon were pretty good. Looking forward to doing the EX. Really my only complaint has to do with some odd quality control. Like there's a pair of scouting gloves that drop in the alliance raid that have spell speed on them. Also the other known issues on the lodestone. I did appreciate that they took the "I want to do stuff during MSQ" feedback to heart with the puzzle stuff. Not world's best puzzles, but it was something. -
08-06-2025, 11:55 AMRenaclock
I enjoyed the story and contents.
Ofcourse its not 5.3 tier but it was fun, surprisingly lengthy. I think animated cutscenes were awesome and I'm happy that they finally used bloods cuz they add alot.
Focus on WoL was appreciated tho it still felt like I'm not the main focus but it is in the end Wuk and Speen's story so....
The ending cutscenes made me feel like they are trying to sideline entire country of Tural with Wuk which was funny tho since all the interesting stuff is happening in Alexandria and nothing in Tural it makes sense.
Cliffhunger at the end was so generic and they've done the exact same stuff so many time but every time they did these they said "they had not idea what to do so we just put random cliffhunger and hope it worksout" later on so I'm assuming its the same lol.
Dungeon was pretty fun. Last one was very forgettable so I'm glad they improved. 2nd boss is my fav.
Normal trial felt lacking. Since its the final boss of the patches I was expecting something more(like phase2 and different song).
Extreme seems great as usual but I haven't done yet.
Alliance raid was fun tho it felt like it loops mechanics.
Each bosses doesn't have alot of mechanics and multi-boss fight isn't as well made as the last one. Still a really good raid tho!
Overall there isn't anything to complain about this patch for me other than what game has been lacking for years which we can only hope for the next expansion.
Story's quality got much better both writing and telling(cutscenes,VAs,quests) so hope they keep it up. -
08-06-2025, 12:03 PMSeriousPanKirin's conceptually simple and the DPS check was pretty lenient on day one. Peoples feedback about reaction time in DT make me wonder if they only move after seeing the AoE indicators and aren't, y'know, looking at the animations and boss prepping attacks? Because that's what it seems like in all the other threads where people go "I dont have enough time to react". You aren't meant to react, you're meant to preposition by looking at what the boss is doing. This isn't hardcore stuff and should be a skill a person who has played for any decent amount of time should have learned. Frankly this alliance raid had some teeth but will be getting run with 0 problems by next week since it doesn't do anything totally new that'll shake up the core alliance raid experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by SamuraiMiqo
I can't tell if you're just adding onto their point or if you missed their sarcasm. hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by angienessyo
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08-06-2025, 12:08 PMAsari5
can we keep sphene and shale?