No more Necromancer run ruined by DC, I BEG

I keep getting DC’d in PotD and can't do anything about it, especially recently with the DDoS. Can we PLEASE at least have 2-3 minutes to reconnect before calling it a game over?

It's probably one of the most fun solo achievements you can go for, but that alone is making me less and less enthusiastic about starting another run...

Genuinely this just makes me sad. Because it won't get fixed. Frankly as a solo experience it might make me angry if they did with their backlog. But they are not dealing with the backlog either, and that's not the reason they won't.

I have been slowly doing HoH on 2 saves since the last spike where I was nearly at the top and it ruined it.

It's on hold because of the ongoing DDoS attacks. I get spikes every single day. They've ruined some savage pulls too. Any time I try to trace the packet loss it's at the server itself.

I've accepted I might just have to put it off for a few years until something changes, whether on SE's side or mine (transferring).

With as long as it takes to climb 1 to 200, it is beyond ridiculous to have a DC cancel 8+ hours of work. Even with a 2GB fiber connection, the DDoS attacks are something the end user can do nothing about.

Yeah I mean frankly FF14 is probably not just being DDOS'd. DDOS happens every day to every major company. They're either underinvesting in DDOS protections, don't care about talking to their provider, or worse, their servers are just so bad a fart of a DDOS can cause it to explode

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Originally Posted by Red-thunder

Yeah I mean frankly FF14 is probably not just being DDOS'd. DDOS happens every day to every major company. They're either underinvesting in DDOS protections, don't care about talking to their provider, or worse, their servers are just so bad a fart of a DDOS can cause it to explode

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Not that it matters to you, as long as the forum is up. After all:

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Originally Posted by Red-thunder

I don't play this game

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I haven't gotten booted from servers once, You sure it ain't just your dialup?

Or SE ain't just cutting server costs and praying you don't notice?

They really need to add checkpoints for these situations of being disconnected and such. Maybe have a checkpoint for every 10 levels?

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Originally Posted by Rinoa_353

They really need to add checkpoints for these situations of being disconnected and such. Maybe have a checkpoint for every 10 levels?

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you have a checkpoint every 10 levels up to 100. They removed it by purpose

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Originally Posted by Rinoa_353

They really need to add checkpoints for these situations of being disconnected and such. Maybe have a checkpoint for every 10 levels?

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No. The problem is that then casuals might start to think this game was for them. Heck they might even have something worth doing.
They fixed it in HoH. You can't even get past 30 without a static.
Which they used to keep the casuals out of the moogle event by making that the ultimog challenge.

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Originally Posted by Gurgeh

No. The problem is that then casuals might start to think this game was for them. Heck they might even have something worth doing.
They fixed it in HoH. You can't even get past 30 without a static.
Which they used to keep the casuals out of the moogle event by making that the ultimog challenge.

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deep dungeons are the most casual content ever... next to treasure maps. DCs arent even an issue, if you enter with a group

I've made mention about this in dungeon subforum, but I'll just drop my suggestion again here:

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"A Pomander of Raising is consumed in the event of disconnection."

Just had this running in my mind after getting disconnected in solo runs thanks to somewhat unstable connection. Happened years ago at F84 > Left DD in the mud since then > Ultimog asks for F50 HoH > Regains the motivation > Retry for solo run + mogtome > Disconnected at F40'ish. Great, not even F50.

I know why they force to end runs when it happens. But I wish they don't treat like everybody's playing their game as close as to the server's back closet or something.

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Originally Posted by Rinoa_353

They really need to add checkpoints for these situations of being disconnected and such. Maybe have a checkpoint for every 10 levels?

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The problem if they do this is that people could just alt F4 if a run turns bad, and restart the floor series, which is similar to save scumming.
A better way would be to implement a timer to reconnect, and have pomanders of raising being consumed especially if the player character stays inside during the disconnect and gets killed by mobs. Alternatively they can remove the character (like in pvp), keep the instance open, and consume that pomander of raising?

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Originally Posted by ServerCollaps

you have a checkpoint every 10 levels up to 100. They removed it by purpose

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Those story floor safeties weren't originally part of PotD at release, and failing any run meant starting back from scratch (or from the general second checkpoint at floor 51, or 21 in HoH/EO). This doesn't work for optional/non story floors, you fail, you start over.

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Originally Posted by ServerCollaps

you have a checkpoint every 10 levels up to 100. They removed it by purpose

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Originally Posted by Gurgeh

No. The problem is that then casuals might start to think this game was for them. Heck they might even have something worth doing.
They fixed it in HoH. You can't even get past 30 without a static.
Which they used to keep the casuals out of the moogle event by making that the ultimog challenge.

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Originally Posted by Valence

The problem if they do this is that people could just alt F4 if a run turns bad, and restart the floor series, which is similar to save scumming.
A better way would be to implement a timer to reconnect, and have pomanders of raising being consumed especially if the player character stays inside during the disconnect and gets killed by mobs. Alternatively they can remove the character (like in pvp), keep the instance open, and consume that pomander of raising?

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Ah I see, I haven't done any of these solo yet, then I propose they use the Pomander of Raising for instances of being disconnected and it gets consumed so that you can't simply back out and retry as many times as you want. Then you simply get another one to replenish the one that was consumed as you keep on trucking, I think that may work since it's already an existing mechanic, it would just have to be applied for disconnects. They could also have it where if you do get disconnected, you have to restart that same floor too.

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Originally Posted by Valence

The problem if they do this is that people could just alt F4 if a run turns bad, and restart the floor series, which is similar to save scumming.

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And? Its been hacked and cheated anyways... like, even if i redo floors 180-190 20x i still have cleared em out of my own...

While there would be ways to force yourself to DC, the server having issues shouldn't punish people trying to do Deep Dungeons... So a getting DC resetting the current set of floors would be fine.

Because of this issue, I will not try to achieve the Necromancer title. The achievement in itself is already time consuming enough. Having your progress purged for a reason that is entirely out of your control is unacceptable.

Like sure i suck and might need several tries but always thinking about how an dc or lag might end it, makes me not even try...

I had that during stormblood when EU got ddos'd a lot, we could not even manage party runs of HoH anymore.. that was when i gave up back then.

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Originally Posted by Kuroka

And? Its been hacked and cheated anyways... like, even if i redo floors 180-190 20x i still have cleared em out of my own...

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What do you mean hacked and cheated?

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Originally Posted by ServerCollaps

deep dungeons are the most casual content ever... next to treasure maps. DCs arent even an issue, if you enter with a group

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This post is about solo clearing for the title, though. In this case a DC counts as an auto fail and you lose all progress.

Personally I have only encountered a DC a couple of times in all of my solo Deep Dungeon runs over the years, so I don't know how much of an actual widespread, consistent issue it really is. From my own experience it's not that bad, but I rarely experience DCs in general. However, I can see why it's still incredibly frustrating to lose 180 floors worth of time even once if the cause is out of your control.

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Originally Posted by Gurgeh

No. The problem is that then casuals might start to think this game was for them. Heck they might even have something worth doing.
They fixed it in HoH. You can't even get past 30 without a static.
Which they used to keep the casuals out of the moogle event by making that the ultimog challenge.

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You do realize HoH up to floor 50 isn't difficult right? God forbid someone tries to socialize to get content done. I up and solo'd it within an hour and a half (max aetherpool, otherwise get a party) as an upper end estimation. This is too much for you?

It's not any different than doing PoTD to 100 except you need a fixed party to reach it. I'm starting to get convinced I am just falling for a troll, not unusual for this part of the forum. It's. Just. Three. Floor. Sets.

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Originally Posted by Rinoa_353

They really need to add checkpoints for these situations of being disconnected and such. Maybe have a checkpoint for every 10 levels?

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There are already 'checkpoints' every 10 floors & please do not ruin the one and only achievement that is at least worth a fart in the wind in this noskill game.

TIL not getting DCed due to DDoS is a skill.

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Originally Posted by ServerCollaps

deep dungeons are the most casual content ever... next to treasure maps. DCs arent even an issue, if you enter with a group

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They are far from it. You either have to clear them in one sitting, which takes hours, or you have to run after every single person because they will not show up again at the second or third day and eventually you have to delete the save and have to start over.

Deep Dungeons are hardcore content. Not because they are so difficult (in a party) but because it's impossible to find people to actually clear them. Orthos is probably the best content we got in EW, but it was dead on arrival anyway. The barrier of entry is too high.

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Originally Posted by Gurgeh

They fixed it in HoH. You can't even get past 30 without a static.
Which they used to keep the casuals out of the moogle event by making that the ultimog challenge.

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to be fair, upto 50 is super easy, when doing it with pictomancer i killed every enemy in 1-2 hits, there is just a harsh spike on 51+

I really dont like that you can't register above a certain level anymore. (not that you would find a party anyway)

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Originally Posted by Mesarthim

You do realize HoH up to floor 50 isn't difficult right? God forbid someone tries to socialize to get content done. I up and solo'd it within an hour and a half (max aetherpool, otherwise get a party) as an upper end estimation. This is too much for you?

It's not any different than doing PoTD to 100 except you need a fixed party to reach it. I'm starting to get convinced I am just falling for a troll, not unusual for this part of the forum. It's. Just. Three. Floor. Sets.

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No not trolling.
When it came up in my group recently the conditions were:
We keep running until everyone gets their mount or savage comes out.
Scheduled times.

Now there is nothing wrong with that, but none of it works for me.

I've done PoD three times up to 180 or so but once a couple of people get thier mount it all falls apart, and it takes ages. 1 person drops and your prog is over. Back to floor one. So I'm just not even very interested to start with any more. It's a complete crap shoot, and not a good one, and I don't do gambling.

It extra hard hard for me to schedule at the moment.

I'm certainly not committing to mounts for everyone.

My priority is last floor clear not mounts.

And I'm sure as hell not doing that (my content) to have it suborned to Fckn savage high end again!

No.Screw deep dungeons and their fixed parties.

If you're not soloing for a title then you do not not need to start on floor 1, you start on 51 PoTD.

The example I nitpicked on was your over exaggeration of the heaven on high ultimog, a grand total of 30 floors. Solo or a full party this should take no more than an hour and a half tops. You have UNTIL PATCH 7.2 to do it and you can't manage to scrape together a friend or two to do it with? I'd just drag you there myself out of pity if you were on the same data center. (tri-solo title, I am aware I am an outlier). Fixed party or not you're basically saying you're unable to do PoTD 61-100 because HoH doesn't start getting intimidating until 51+, or 61+ for actual pain (which isn't part of ultimog to begin with). I even have a friend who "does not" want to solo deep dungeons but is fine doing it in a pair. I dragged her down to floor 200 PoTD on her very first run! She enjoyed it.

If you cannot do this much then don't complain you cannot obtain the 50 tomes.

PoTD is normal from 1-100, fixed party 101-200.
HoH is normal 1-30, fixed party 31-100. The problem is you're thinking 31-50 HoH is "challenging" when it is no different than floors 61-100 PoTD. If you could do that, why not this?