When beta comes 1.0 FFXI servers are going down?

When beta comes 1.0 FFXIV servers are going down?
I made a typo. Sadly I can't edit the title. I'm sorry for all the pain and suffering this will inevitably cause.


I did not know this:

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GE: Speaking of Beta, will there be downtime between current game and 2.0?

Yoshida: What’s going to happen is that after the current version is finished and storyline over, the servers will go down and the 2.0 beta will start up. We want to make sure we don’t make the same mistake as before, and want to be sure we have enough time not only for the beta test but also to get feedback from the players and leave enough time to implement that feedback. Also, keep in mind that transferring the characters to the new servers and systems could take up to a month. So that process will be running while the beta test is in place. There can’t be a launch immediately after the current servers are shut down.

GE: So the beta test and current game will not be operating simultaneously?
Yoshida: No. Because we need the time to convert the data from the current version to the new version, we can’t have people keep playing because they will keep updating their data. That doesn’t mean we are not going to work hard to make sure the servers aren’t down for a long time. We know that the community is there and want to maintain that community.

GE: How much downtime do you expect between the end of the beta test and the launch 2.0?

Yoshida: It won’t be anything like the next day, but we hope to have it be as short as possible. We need enough time to make sure everything is right and start it smoothly.

GE: Do you have any ideas yet on how will people get into beta?

Yoshida: We decided not to tie it directly to the legacy campaign, but we want to prioritize getting the current players that are playing now into beta.

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So the means to me, and please correct me if I'm wrong. I hope I'm wrong:

The servers are going down at some point before 2.0, and we will not be able to access our characters until the transition is complete. Which could be up to a month later. Those with beta keys wont be able to play at all, and even those with beta keys wont have access to their accounts.

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Here is a link to the interview.

Yep, I believe so. Gonna just have to either:

Find a different game to play

Or, play beta with alternate characters.

Yes -- they don't want us constantly updating 1.0 so they can minimize the amount of work you'll have to "redo" when 2.0 goes live. So if you don't happen to get a beta invite, you'll pretty much be FFXIVless for a bit lol.

The good thing is, it will go into a "free trial" era which means you won't be charged.

No "FF XI" is not going down as it is totally unrelated to FF XIV.

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When beta comes 1.0 FFXI servers are going down?

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FFXI will be unaffected. :p

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Originally Posted by Akira_Tenshi

No "FF XI" is not going down as it is totally unrelated to FF XIV.

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Sorry, old Habit. I can't edit the title so expect 6 pages of comments like that. lol

Well, since 2.0 is "basically a new FFXIV", that transition isnt something that easy to do and it DOES take time. And just like Yoshi said "we can’t have people keep playing because they will keep updating their data" or you'd have people b***hing that they lost X item or something like that.

And yeah, during beta it will be a "whole new world", which IMO its kinda nice, so someone who has all jobs lv50 can have the same experience as someone who just started (lore, cg wise and stuff like that) at least for those who care bout that, xD

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Originally Posted by Mijin

Sorry, old Habit. I can't edit the title so expect 6 pages of comments like that. lol

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Funny thing about that is they actually both go down for updates on the same day at times, so it likely could go down as 2.0 Beta commences lol.

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Originally Posted by Xandim

Well, since 2.0 is "basically a new FFXIV", that transition isnt something that easy to do and it DOES take time. And just like Yoshi said "we can’t have people keep playing because they will keep updating their data" or you'd have people b***hing that they lost X item or something like that.

And yeah, during beta it will be a "whole new world", which IMO its kinda nice, so someone who has all jobs lv50 can have the same experience as someone who just started (lore, cg wise and stuff like that) at least for those who care bout that, xD

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Well if its something they have to do there is nothing that can be done about it. I just hope it doesn't take too long.

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

Funny thing about that is they actually both go down for updates on the same day at times, so it likely could go down as 2.0 Beta commences lol.

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Well that sucks... that was my backup plan lol

As others have stated, it's pretty obvious as to why 1.X is going down during the 2.0 beta. They'll be transferring our data over during that time so they can't have us playing and changing that same data while moving it. Hopefully they'll use the 2.0 beta time to make sure that all of the data is properly and carefully moved over to 2.0.

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Originally Posted by Arcell

As others have stated, it's pretty obvious as to why 1.X is going down during the 2.0 beta. They'll be transferring our data over during that time so they can't have us playing and changing that same data while moving it. Hopefully they'll use the 2.0 beta time to make sure that all of the data is properly and carefully moved over to 2.0.

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I expect there to be 100's of "I'm missing X item" threads. Consisting of mostly people who forgot they put X item on their retainer.

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Originally Posted by Mijin

I expect there to be 100's of "I'm missing X item" threads. Consisting of mostly people who forgot they put X item on their retainer.

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Or maybe not, since intentory will be trasnfered altogheter, not only retainers

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Originally Posted by yukikaze_yanagi

Or maybe not, since intentory will be trasnfered altogheter, not only retainers

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That's not what I meant. I'm saying they will log on, expecting something to be on their character and post a thread that it's missing, but in reality they put it on there retainer the day before the servers went down and forgot about it.

My guess, when open beta comes around we'll be able to play our characters. At least thats what i'm hoping for. Seems logical to do that since its open beta.

But isn't open beta for jp and international servers estimated beginning of 2013

I will gladly play 2.0 beta ! :D *hush* i need to see new UI. Current one gives me a creepiness when I open it.

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Originally Posted by Madrox

But isn't open beta for jp and international servers estimated beginning of 2013

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Q: When will Final Fantasy XIV 2.0 launch?
A: I expect the first Closed Beta for the Japan and International servers to be held end September or early October, entering Closed Beta 2 this winter and Open Beta in January next year. We will be talking to Shanda Games about the China server, with features such as PvP, blocking 3rd party programs and localization, hence the Chian server will launch later.

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This is the URL to the interview.

The last interview they were talking closed beta at the end of this month then open beta sometime around the end of the year so I'm seriously doubting the current version is going to be down for both the open and closed beta. I suspect they are just going to use snapshots of the current version in the closed beta to run migration tests, then run an open beta for a bit to test capacity, THEN shut down the current version for a month and do the data migration while finish up and test any changes made from open and closed betas.

Many people are going to play GW2 and never come back.

GW2 contrary to popular belief is not the Promised Land. I think it's going to be the opposite actually, people will come from there to here.

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Originally Posted by Doho

GW2 contrary to popular belief is not the Promised Land. I think it's going to be the opposite actually, people will come from there to here.

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I've decided I'm just going to wait until XIV's servers are down for this duration of time to play skyrims new content heh.

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Originally Posted by Mijin

I expect there to be 100's of "I'm missing X item" threads. Consisting of mostly people who forgot they put X item on their retainer.

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There will be many items missing for people, as I am sure many people will forget or have not read (in any detail) that there will be many items that exist now but will not be in 2.0.
From all that I have gathered
- All Dated gear will be removed, if you have any it would be best to turn it to materia or dump it on an npc.
- All legacy materials used in the old synths 1.19 noted the items that were discontinued (you will see notes on sites like gamerscape or mooglebox)(including some items that you can get in leves (as they were not updated and will give you these items)) (Eg. Buffalo hides, chestnut logs, etc)

There will also be serveral thread about missing achievements, or achievements partially done that are no longer in the list. This list of what will be gone is already up, there may be more listed before then.
- If you complete the achievement, while it won't be in the list you still get the points for it (will these points be usable?). Although this may show up in some way where you can see legacy achievements (either in game or on lodestone (TBD)
- If it is being removed and you did not complete it, it will still not show up anywhere on your list although you will still retain the points for the partial achievement parts.
- If the achievement is still going to be there, it will show your existing progress, although some of the requirements may be changing (what that means is still TBA). My understanding is if the requirements change you may have to start that portion of the achievement over (however completed portions will remain completed (that could be wrong or change))


I will not be at all surprised when the 100s of why SE and why is it missing, etc. We have been warned, but that won't stop the threads.

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Originally Posted by Mijin

This is the URL to the interview.

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Yup that's interview I was going to link for you. I was saying because lot of people seem to believe that there will only be amonth or two of no ffxiv until 2.0. I'm just waiting for the storm of rage to hit these forums when they find out. I figured you didnt know either since you just found out about one in op.

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Originally Posted by Madrox

Yup that's interview I was going to link for you. I was saying because lot of people seem to believe that there will only be amonth or two of no ffxiv until 2.0. I'm just waiting for the storm of rage to hit these forums when they find out. I figured you didnt know either since you just found out about one in op.

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Yeah thanks for pointing it out. I searched for that interview after your post and found it. I'm kind of trying to get up to date here on a lot of information because I took a break from the game for a while to play Diablo III. This came as a shock to me.

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Originally Posted by cloverkitty

There will be many items missing for people, as I am sure many people will forget or have not read (in any detail) that there will be many items that exist now but will not be in 2.0.
From all that I have gathered
- All Dated gear will be removed, if you have any it would be best to turn it to materia or dump it on an npc.
- All legacy materials used in the old synths 1.19 noted the items that were discontinued (you will see notes on sites like gamerscape or mooglebox)(including some items that you can get in leves (as they were not updated and will give you these items)) (Eg. Buffalo hides, chestnut logs, etc)

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Is their a list of all items (Buffalo Leather) etc., That are going to disappear. As a recently returned player I wanna clean retainers before all the changes happen. Might free up space too !!!

If anyone can provide a link to crafting items that are phased out, I would appreciate it.

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Originally Posted by Griffster

Is their a list of all items (Buffalo Leather) etc., That are going to disappear. As a recently returned player I wanna clean retainers before all the changes happen. Might free up space too !!!

If anyone can provide a link to crafting items that are phased out, I would appreciate it.

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Anything tagged 'dated' will no longer be possible to create come 2.0 -- also any recipes that will create dated items will be removed but not the ingredients themselves excluding +2 and +3 variants which I believe they already pretty much made +1/+2/+3 act the same in terms of HQ chances.

some news and info would be nice, when exactly the servers are going to be offline forever..

i mean we have august.. and in october, we will be able to download the new 2.0. client (looks at the time table)

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Originally Posted by Tonkra

some news and info would be nice, when exactly the servers are going to be offline forever..

i mean we have august.. and in october, we will be able to download the new 2.0. client (looks at the time table)

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That time frame was already mentioned on page two.

meh, I have my Founder's pack for MWO, so whether I get into the beta or not, I'll be kept busy.