Flare Star needs to be bigger

Hi Yoshida and friends,

Please make Flare Star animation at least 50% larger. I feel like my top lv100 spell does not represent the chad black mage energy I am bringing to the party. Saving up 6 astral stickers isn't so easy all the time.

Thank you for your time,

Ringo

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Originally Posted by RingoNoyamano

Hi Yoshida and friends,

Please make Flare Star animation at least 50% larger. I feel like my top lv100 spell does not represent the chad black mage energy I am bringing to the party. Saving up 6 astral stickers isn't so easy all the time.

Thank you for your time,

Ringo

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Flare Star doesn't need to be bigger. Flare Star needs to be removed.

We must keep Flare Star. They'll make us do another fire 4 if they remove it, please I can't.

apart from not liking the new changes, I do agree that BLM spells look kind of lackluster. Played around with the new Warrior and everything looks so much more impactful. If we have big finishers, they should be at least on the scale of LB2's or even bigger.

Its weird that it gets a lackluster effect considering Flarestar is the Signiture Ability of Kuja the main villain of FF9.

I mean most people have limited spells enabled anyway so they aren't going to see it lmao

No thanks. Bloated animations were an issue in FFIX too.

Flare star needs to be replaced with Ice Paradox.

While I haven't hit 100 yet, I did want to propose something. Instead of just getting rid of Flare Star, what if it were an unassignable action like Paradox? Where it just replaces Flare once its activation conditions are met.

bigger, nastier looking and more damage. 6 fire 4s or 2 flares should be close the total of of either one

bakuretsu bakuretsu la la la

The reason Flare Star's graphics are so small is because Square wanted to visually provide an accurate representation of the damage it deals. Given that Flare Star barely deals more damage than a single Fire IV, the graphics have been made exceedingly small to reflect this fact.

I do want to highlight that it sounds amazing. It kaCHUNKs like a tank shell.

It could 100% be bigger. It's totally lost in some bosses bodies.

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Originally Posted by Ayalu

Its weird that it gets a lackluster effect considering Flarestar is the Signiture Ability of Kuja the main villain of FF9.

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Not really surprising after what they did with Thunder... straight up a downgrade from Thunder III and IV. I don't think Yoshi P mains black mage anymore.

Tbh I feel like Flare Star should only be castable after 2 firephase making in somewhat in line with a 1min CD.

Only Paradox and Despair grant a stack (which obviously stays during umbral phase) and casting FlareStar requires 4 stack instead of 6.
Potency is increased accordingly.

Amplifier also grant a 30s buff (Next Flare Star is free to cast)

This would solve :
- issue of loosing stack whenever boss leaves the arena or if you need to shorten your firephase, bringing back some flexibility to the gameplay.
- would allow flare star to be cast else where than the end of astral phase, bringing back again flexibility.
- make flare star its own thing and not just "the finisher of a finisher". We already got RDM for Hecta-finisher playstyle.
- Make amplifier a bit more noteworthy... 2min for 1 xeno feels a bit meager.
- Could possibly open for some interesting optimisation for up to 3 FlareStar in burst window.

You're right, it could totally be 100% bigger. Yoshida please!

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Originally Posted by Ririta

Not really surprising after what they did with Thunder... straight up a downgrade from Thunder III and IV. I don't think Yoshi P mains black mage anymore.

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I am also just waiting for him to show up as a Picto in the next Live Letter :x

I agree it needs to be bigger and brighter and it needs to always show up even when people have all effects disabled

It looks like a big Fire I.

Why does a lvl 100 spell that has a cast time and requires you to do 6 fires to get to it only 400 potency? Shouldn't it be like either instant cast or like... 2k potency?

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Originally Posted by Ayalu

Its weird that it gets a lackluster effect considering Flarestar is the Signiture Ability of Kuja the main villain of FF9.

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Sad thing is, they could do it like kuja's where it forms around the target then explodee. Hell, it even starts from multiple firey orbs surrounding the target, that could literally be the astral motes we have to build in the UI gauge.

https://youtu.be/Ujs1iYpCLsI?si=FGvHLW3_hZx-oMjN

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Originally Posted by Burningskull

Why does a lvl 100 spell that has a cast time and requires you to do 6 fires to get to it only 400 potency? Shouldn't it be like either instant cast or like... 2k potency?

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To be fair, potency on BLM is iffy, as there is a multiplier for potency with enochian and astral fire. If I recall, it's actually somewhere between 800 and 900. So not 400 piddly, but still kinda pathetic.

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Originally Posted by LilyPendragon

To be fair, potency on BLM is iffy, as there is a multiplier for potency with enochian and astral fire. If I recall, it's actually somewhere between 800 and 900. So not 400 piddly, but still kinda pathetic.

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AF3 is a 1.8 multiplier. You could double Flare Star's base potency to 800 and, with AF, it'd be 1440, so basically the same as Picto's Madeen or Star Prism. That's how weak Flare Star is btw, takes way more setup and, even if you doubled its potency, it'd only be "ok" (Prism has a heal and is an instant cast, Muses/Mog/Madeen is an ogcd you get every 40s). Absolute disgrace of a capstone for level 100, not gonna lie.

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Originally Posted by Osh1mA

You need to multiply by enochian modifier to compare potency with other jobs.

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From the post below, this is actually true. It needs an additional 1.3 multiplier (both come out to 2.34). Even then, you could still double Flare Star's potency and it'd be ok.
Well... technically, that would enable single-target Flare to be optimal, which would actually be interesting, if I'm being honest, as a way to re-enable short fire lines :')

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Originally Posted by Galvuu

AF3 is a 1.8 multiplier. You could double Flare Star's base potency to 800 and, with AF, it'd be 1440, so basically the same as Picto's Madeen or Star Prism. That's how weak Flare Star is btw, takes way more setup and, even if you doubled its potency, it'd only be "ok" (Prism has a heal and is an instant cast, Muses/Mog/Madeen is an ogcd you get every 30s). Absolute disgrace of a capstone for level 100, not gonna lie.

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You need to multiply by enochian modifier to compare potency with other jobs.

Personally, as someone whose favorite element is ice, I'd just like the ice phase to be longer and more impactful than "press 2 spells to regen MP"

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Originally Posted by KooriGraywolf

Personally, as someone whose favorite element is ice, I'd just like the ice phase to be longer and more impactful than "press 2 spells to regen MP"

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They should lean into the many elements more.
Like, a UI high power spell that's Ice+Thunder with a dot, or an ice/darkness (or even fire/darkness) spell would also be thematically fitting.
But we had a fire/ice spell, Paradox, and they got rid of half of its uses, so they clearly have no creative juice left :)

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Originally Posted by Galvuu

AF3 is a 1.8 multiplier. You could double Flare Star's base potency to 800 and, with AF, it'd be 1440, so basically the same as Picto's Madeen or Star Prism. That's how weak Flare Star is btw, takes way more setup and, even if you doubled its potency, it'd only be "ok" (Prism has a heal and is an instant cast, Muses/Mog/Madeen is an ogcd you get every 30s). Absolute disgrace of a capstone for level 100, not gonna lie.


From the post below, this is actually true. It needs an additional 1.3 multiplier (both come out to 2.34). Even then, you could still double Flare Star's potency and it'd be ok.
Well... technically, that would enable single-target Flare to be optimal, which would actually be interesting, if I'm being honest, as a way to re-enable short fire lines :')

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Creature muses have a 40s CD, not 30s

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Originally Posted by Osh1mA

You need to multiply by enochian modifier to compare potency with other jobs.

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That puts it at 936 potency with the AF modifier and Enochian compared to 1400 star prism, 1400 Madeen, 1100 creature muses, 1740 critical hit hammer, 1000 Rainbow Drip, etc. Considering what it takes to build Flare Star, it should be more in par with NIN's Hyosho which is like 1900 potency.

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Originally Posted by KooriGraywolf

Personally, as someone whose favorite element is ice, I'd just like the ice phase to be longer and more impactful than "press 2 spells to regen MP"

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I liked how ice phase worked prior to DT while in Bozja, because Bozja has substantial MP drains, which makes it effectively required to be going into Ice early and often and for parts of your burst.

One of the many many problems I have with DT BLM is that MP regen in ice is just messier all around and tied specifically to casting ice spells, so you don't have the satisfaction of going into ice to splat out your Xenoglossy.

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Originally Posted by wildvenonat

I liked how ice phase worked prior to DT while in Bozja, because Bozja has substantial MP drains, which makes it effectively required to be going into Ice early and often and for parts of your burst.

One of the many many problems I have with DT BLM is that MP regen in ice is just messier all around and tied specifically to casting ice spells, so you don't have the satisfaction of going into ice to splat out your Xenoglossy.

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StQ is on another level for most jobs. Tons of powerful buffs with different costs and timers, synergy between those buffs, crazy special abilities... I wish jobs were granted stuff like Honored Sacrifice for melee, Dervish for ranged or Font of Magic for casters.
But that would go against the enforced 2 minute meta and might give jobs skill expression soooo :>

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Originally Posted by rewd

Creature muses have a 40s CD, not 30s

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I shouldn't post at 4am. I edited, thanks for noticing. You wouldn't know I play Pictomancer from the stuff I get wrong :')

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Originally Posted by Galvuu

StQ is on another level for most jobs. Tons of powerful buffs with different costs and timers, synergy between those buffs, crazy special abilities... I wish jobs were granted stuff like Honored Sacrifice for melee, Dervish for ranged or Font of Magic for casters.
But that would go against the enforced 2 minute meta and might give jobs skill expression soooo :>

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I think it's fine the sheer amount of skill expression in forays isn't in regular content, but DT has been heartbreaking for me wrt StQ BLM. That's to me where Black Mage was the most fun and the MP regen rework has made it far less exciting. It's so demoralizing.