Petition for Instanced housing

I know I will catch flak for this but I'm going to say it. We need instanced housing, And I have a petition here for that. We need a better housing system. The lottery thing is ok, But something else needs to happen.


https://chng.it/rtSF4R8gj2

No we do not.

Add more wards to fix the housing scarcity.

There are other games if you want instanced housing, or apartments in FFXIV.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

No we do not.

Add more wards to fix the housing scarcity.

There are other games if you want instanced housing, or apartments in FFXIV.

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I think adding more medium/large homes per ward would be a much better result. Right now there's a ton of small plots that are left unclaimed (mainly in newer wards) and it just makes wards feel/look empty.

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Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn

I think adding more medium/large homes per ward would be a much better result. Right now there's a ton of small plots that are left unclaimed (mainly in newer wards) and it just makes wards feel/look empty.

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At most 1 or 2 additionals maybe per ward yeah, no more than that though, larges should still keep their "status" that they have right now, while smalls are extra common which is how it should be.

Its basically an upgrade system, you start with a small and you work your way up, which I think is fair, the problem is that the scarcity is making that near impossible, that's why I've already suggested a dynamic ward system instead of what we have now.

Ward 30 is full on small houses
-> Ward 31 opens
-> Ward 31 smalls are all taken
-> Ward 32 opens
rinse and repeat.

This also creates more larges and mediums in the process as well.

Everyone wins.

I feel like it would be fun/amusing to add a rich quarter of all large houses for like 1 or 2 wards.
Could do the same with small/mediums.

Add small house to island sanctuary
=> Prob solved.

Housing needs to be all instanced. Not just apartments.

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Originally Posted by Mitsuyo

Housing needs to be all instanced. Not just apartments.

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No thank you.

You can have that in other games if you want.

It doesnt "need" to be, you "WANT" it to be. different things.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

No we do not.

Add more wards to fix the housing scarcity.

There are other games if you want instanced housing, or apartments in FFXIV.

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No amount of more wards is going to "fix" the housing scarcity. Do you realize how many players play this game?

A better solution is to keep the current ward system but make it into a premium feature while they introduced instanced houses for players to purchase so they can use all of the furnishes theyve acquired playing the game.

Theres no reason to gatekeep a simple basic feature in an MMO just to fuel your ego.

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

No amount of more wards is going to "fix" the housing scarcity. Do you realize how many players play this game?

A better solution is to keep the current ward system but make it into a premium feature while they introduced instanced houses for players to purchase so they can use all of the furnishes theyve acquired playing the game.

Theres no reason to gatekeep a simple basic feature in an MMO just to fuel your ego.

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I like how you talk about my ego when my solution literally gives at the very least a small house to everybody that wants one.

Good attempt though.

And yes, instanced is terrible, it won't happen and I'm more than happy for that, deal with it.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

No we do not.

Add more wards to fix the housing scarcity.

There are other games if you want instanced housing, or apartments in FFXIV.

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Problem with this is new wards only can increase linearly while player counts increase exponentially. You will never keep up that way.
Also the liminal space that wards are aren't worth the headache of these horrific housing systems like placard clicking or lottery.

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Originally Posted by Oizen

Problem with this is new wards only can increase linearly while player counts increase exponentially. You will never keep up that way.
Also the liminal space that wards are aren't worth the headache of these horrific housing systems like placard clicking or lottery.

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The problem is instanced housing would ruin their prestige. And maybe include blocklists that would keep them out of venues they don't own but perceive they have a right to enter (because its public, but insert "you keep using this word, I'm not sure you know what it means" meme).

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Originally Posted by Oizen

Problem with this is new wards only can increase linearly while player counts increase exponentially. You will never keep up that way.
Also the liminal space that wards are aren't worth the headache of these horrific housing systems like placard clicking or lottery.

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I hate lottery as much as you do really, but the players asked for it because they wanted a "fair" system, and we got it.

Instead of 10-20 people at a placard, you have 100 if not more for anything that is not a small, it's literally what people wanted.

Also side note, Valk get over yourself and stop being childish, it ain't a good look, time to grow up a little, you can disagree with me I have absolutely 0 issues with that, but this childish energy is not it.

If they made the appartements bigger than a standard FC room, that would greatly alleviate the issue. They already cost like half a mil, how about being able to buy different sizes? Being able to visit your floor neighboors or something that isn't just a list would be huge too imo.

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Originally Posted by Doragan

If they made the appartements bigger than a standard FC room, that would greatly alleviate the issue. They already cost like half a mil, how about being able to buy different sizes? Being able to visit your floor neighboors or something that isn't just a list would be huge too imo.

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That is also a good solution yes, different sizes with maybe the largest including a balcony for gardening purpose wouldn't be a bad thing, because the fact is instanced housing already exists, that's what apartments are.

It will still be neglected on any non overpopulated world because everyone will have it so it ain't a "flex", but at least the option would be there.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

The problem is instanced housing would ruin their prestige. And maybe include blocklists that would keep them out of venues they don't own but perceive they have a right to enter (because its public, but insert "you keep using this word, I'm not sure you know what it means" meme).

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Lmao we can't even get a normal blacklist to function properly, you expect them to make one specifically for housing? XD

Also we all know the housing system is the way it is to incentivize people to stay subbed and it works. Square hasn't made any attempts to fix it and people have been asking for years. Instanced housing is a pipedream in this game.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

The problem is instanced housing would ruin their prestige. And maybe include blocklists that would keep them out of venues they don't own but perceive they have a right to enter (because its public, but insert "you keep using this word, I'm not sure you know what it means" meme).

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Prestige of what exactly?
Who cares about what limsa afkers think about something like this. Everyone having access to the system is objectively superior than artificial scarcity so people can pretend to have pretend internet cred.

If you need to feel superior to others, owning a house in the game is a pretty shit way to go about it.

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Originally Posted by Oizen

Prestige of what exactly?
Who cares about what limsa afkers think about something like this. Everyone having access to the system is objectively superior than artificial scarcity so people can pretend to have pretend internet cred.

If you need to feel superior to others, owning a house in the game is a pretty shit way to go about it.

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Everyone having access to housing =/ everyone having a large fyi.

Also the way ffxiv housing works is literally a prestige system, you upgrade from small to large which are a very fought over scarce resource.

It ain't about people feeling superior, it's called reaching a goal, but in today's world, God forbid having to put effort into something, muh instant gratification, I want it and I want it now! And yes that even goes for housing, it's called putting effort into something.

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Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn

I think adding more medium/large homes per ward would be a much better result. Right now there's a ton of small plots that are left unclaimed (mainly in newer wards) and it just makes wards feel/look empty.

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Those would be scooped up immediately by personal buyers if they did away with the FC ward distinction, which they absolutely should do.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

Everyone having access to housing =/ everyone having a large fyi.

Also the way ffxiv housing works is literally a prestige system, you upgrade from small to large which are a very fought over scarce resource.

It ain't about people feeling superior, it's called reaching a goal, but in today's world, God forbid having to put effort into something, muh instant gratification, I want it and I want it now! And yes that even goes for housing, it's called putting effort into something.

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Putting effort does not equal dealing with rng. You know what putting effort is? Amassing the gil necessary to buy one, along with getting all the furnishing to decorate your home however you want.

Seriously stop with this "prestige" nonsense and acting like limited housing is such a good thing. Youre being completely selfish just because you feel like youre owed having to deal with FFXIV's bullcrap system.

I also say this as a house owner. I dont feel any better having to be the lucky one to earn the plot. Its completely stupid and I would like if everyone was able to buy a house.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

The problem is instanced housing would ruin their prestige. And maybe include blocklists that would keep them out of venues they don't own but perceive they have a right to enter (because its public, but insert "you keep using this word, I'm not sure you know what it means" meme).

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As the owner of a medium, I give no shits about the prestige. I think considering it that way is a problem. I support instanced housing.

Stormpeaks - It's nice of you to give us your opinion, but it wouldn't hurt anyone. Just because you stomp around the forum like a child because this suggestion in a post would improve the game and you don't like it doesn't mean you'll get your way. I don't understand your overall comment and why it shouldn't be.

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Originally Posted by ThomasOfEger

Stormpeaks - It's nice of you to give us your opinion, but it wouldn't hurt anyone. Just because you stomp around the forum like a child because this suggestion in a post would improve the game and you don't like it doesn't mean you'll get your way. I don't understand your overall comment and why it shouldn't be.

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Then I invite you to read my post on the first page regarding dynamic wards and also my response regarding bigger apartments.

Also I'm laughing at the same usual people raging on me. Thanks for the entertainment guys.

But hey please do keep mentioning my ego and the way I view housing instead of reading the ideas I have posted that actually would end up making everyone happy.

Instanced housing won't happen, get over it already, housing is a gigantic source of income for SE and it forces people to stay subscribed.

Either you chose to suggest ways to improve the ward system we have, or you can just keep yelling into the void.

The fact people are getting houses means the system is working exactly as it should.

Smalls are easy to get, mediums are harder and larges are very difficult to get, that's how it is and how it should be.

Muh instant gratification ain't gonna help here, do the lottery like literally everyone else, you are not owed a house because you subscribe to the game, it only allows you to start bidding on one and get an apartment if you'd rather not.

The game lets you play ultimates, that doesn't mean when I log in i deserve an ultimate weapon sent to my letterbox. Same for housing.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

Then I invite you to read my post on the first page regarding dynamic wards and also my response regarding bigger apartments.

Also I'm laughing at the same usual people raging on me. Thanks for the entertainment guys.

But hey please do keep mentioning my ego and the way I view housing instead of reading the ideas I have posted that actually would end up making everyone happy.

Instanced housing won't happen, get over it already, housing is a gigantic source of income for SE and it forces people to stay subscribed.

Either you chose to suggest ways to improve the ward system we have, or you can just keep yelling into the void.

The fact people are getting houses means the system is working exactly as it should.

Smalls are easy to get, mediums are harder and larges are very difficult to get, that's how it is and how it should be.

Muh instant gratification ain't gonna help here, do the lottery like literally everyone else, you are not owed a house because you subscribe to the game, it only allows you to start bidding on one and get an apartment if you'd rather not.

The game lets you play ultimates, that doesn't mean when I log in i deserve an ultimate weapon sent to my letterbox. Same for housing.

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Yeah Ultimates arent in competition with having to fight getting instanced to it via rng. So that example is completely moot and doesnt apply to housing.

Bottom line, if you have the money, you should have the house, not having both the money AND the luck to combat a desired plot due to actual scarcity.

You have no right to criticize SE anymore because youre the kind of person that this company enjoys to exploit with these systems rather than for the good of the playerbase. Youre not fooling anyone.

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

Yeah Ultimates arent in competition with having to fight getting instanced to it via rng. So that example is completely moot and doesnt apply to housing.

Bottom line, if you have the money, you should have the house, not having both the money AND the luck to combat a desired plot due to actual scarcity.

You have no right to criticize SE anymore because youre the kind of person that this company enjoys to exploit with these systems rather than for the good of the playerbase. Youre not fooling anyone.

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Yeah Ultimates arent in competition with having to fight getting instanced to it via rng. So that example is completely moot and doesnt apply to housing.

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It actually does work for housing too.

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Bottom line, if you have the money, you should have the house, not having both the money AND the luck to combat a desired plot due to actual scarcity.

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Feel free to read my post on first page regarding dynamic wards, that fixes that problem and gives everyone at the very least a small house.

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You have no right to criticize SE anymore because youre the kind of person that this company enjoys to exploit with these systems rather than for the good of the playerbase. Youre not fooling anyone.

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I aint criticizing them lmao, I'm just saying that they want the sub money and it works.

Get over yourself dude

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Originally Posted by AlexiaD

It actually does work for housing too.



Feel free to read my post on first page regarding dynamic wards, that fixes that problem and gives everyone at the very least a small house.



I aint criticizing them lmao, I'm just saying that they want the sub money and it works.

Get over yourself dude

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Wait is this an alt account for Stormpeaks? You know what whatever, anyway, thats so generous of you..."at least a small house" she says.

But not a mid or large house oh nooo we cant have everyone buy one even though they have the funds for it.

This is the kind of thing that is stupid with your dynamic ward system. It still trying to gatekeep people in some way. The only hurdle you should have is not having the money in general to buy any size house.

And besides Ive already stated that you can keep your shitty ward system for people that somehow want that prestige neighborhood that the devs are so stubborn to keep. But having instanced purchasable houses of varying sizes alongside it will help with everyone else to access the content.

Yeah gatekeeping people from large houses is strange. It's all RNG if you get one or not anyways.
What's the benefit of having such a limited amount of them in a ward? Other than being able to show off to those who didn't get lucky.

Ultimate weapons means you actually cleared (or bought) an ultimate.
A house means you got lucky.

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

Wait is this an alt account for Stormpeaks? You know what whatever, anyway, thats so generous of you..."at least a small house" she says.

But not a mid or large house oh nooo we cant have everyone buy one even though they have the funds for it.

This is the kind of thing that is stupid with your dynamic ward system. It still trying to gatekeep people in some way. The only hurdle you should have is not having the money in general to buy any size house.

And besides Ive already stated that you can keep your shitty ward system for people that somehow want that prestige neighborhood that the devs are so stubborn to keep. But having instanced purchasable houses of varying sizes alongside it will help with everyone else to access the content.

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How frustrated are you dude lmao, you had a time period in which you were more chill and it was actually possible to talk to you but lately you're just going on rage rants again, it's a bit weird but you do you, sadly it aint possible to have a half decent conversation with you so I aint gonna bother anymore, you have at it buddy

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Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn

Yeah gatekeeping people from large houses is strange. It's all RNG if you get one or not anyways.
What's the benefit of having such a limited amount of them in a ward? Other than being able to show off to those who didn't get lucky.

Ultimate weapons means you actually cleared (or bought) an ultimate.
A house means you got lucky.

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It is what it is, that's the dev's vision and also mine, you can disagree though, that's okay.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

Then I invite you to read my post on the first page regarding dynamic wards and also my response regarding bigger apartments.

Also I'm laughing at the same usual people raging on me. Thanks for the entertainment guys.

But hey please do keep mentioning my ego and the way I view housing instead of reading the ideas I have posted that actually would end up making everyone happy.

Instanced housing won't happen, get over it already, housing is a gigantic source of income for SE and it forces people to stay subscribed.

Either you chose to suggest ways to improve the ward system we have, or you can just keep yelling into the void.

The fact people are getting houses means the system is working exactly as it should.

Smalls are easy to get, mediums are harder and larges are very difficult to get, that's how it is and how it should be.

Muh instant gratification ain't gonna help here, do the lottery like literally everyone else, you are not owed a house because you subscribe to the game, it only allows you to start bidding on one and get an apartment if you'd rather not.

The game lets you play ultimates, but that doesn't mean when I log in I deserve an ultimate weapon sent to my letterbox. Same for housing.

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Imagine how many people left this game only because they don't have time to grind to keep housing up. There is no problem with subs but with content open for everyone. Most players attracted to housing in games don't want to spend a hundred hours to keep it. They just wanna chat and casually play with building up a house.

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Originally Posted by ThomasOfEger

Imagine how many people left this game only because they don't have time to grind to keep housing up. There is no problem with subs but with content open for everyone. Most players attracted to housing in games don't want to spend a hundred hours to keep it. They just wanna chat and casually play with building up a house.

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Uh if people left the game entirely because of housing they didnt like the game in the first place lol.

Perhaps the sims 4 might be a better game for them ?

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Originally Posted by ThomasOfEger

Imagine how many people left this game only because they don't have time to grind to keep housing up. There is no problem with subs but with content open for everyone. Most players attracted to housing in games don't want to spend a hundred hours to keep it. They just wanna chat and casually play with building up a house.

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Just look at every other MMORPG with housing. New World - Option to buy a house at first levels if you will just save money for it. People grind because they want to make it look better with crafting. And for them it's fun.
Elder scrolls online - Housing in first few levels completely for free with tons of types of furniture for real money like cash grab works well for them.
Because people have an open way to it.
Fallout 76 or whatever was that name. U can build their house in the few first hours of gameplay....

But FFXIV with the largest RP and social potential just lock it behind the RNG system with tons of in-game currency and grind.

And I can bet with you if they will make it open for everyone somehow and find a solution to this problem, advertise this game it's friendly to casuals who want to have pink carpets in their own house and play like they want with housing ....100% there will be thousands of players who will start playing it. Not even because there was not new Sims game after years and people like discover.

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Originally Posted by ThomasOfEger

Just look at every other MMORPG with housing. New World - Option to buy a house at first levels if you will just save money for it. People grind because they want to make it look better with crafting. And for them it's fun.
Elder scrolls online - Housing in first few levels completely for free with tons of types of furniture for real money like cash grab works well for them.
Because people have an open way to it.
Fallout 76 or whatever was that name. U can build their house in the few first hours of gameplay....

But FFXIV with the largest RP and social potential just lock it behind the RNG system with tons of in-game currency and grind.

And I can bet with you if they will make it open for everyone somehow and find a solution to this problem, advertise this game it's friendly to casuals who want to have pink carpets in their own house and play like they want with housing ....100% there will be thousands of players who will start playing it. Not even because there was not new Sims game after years and people like discover.

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I am one the biggest fan of housing there is and I dont play the game only for its housing, having instanced housing is not going to make thousands of people subscribe for it, I'm not sure I get it lol

I love the talk of "Large/Med's" are too uncommon! We need more!

My main has been on Balmung since 2.1. I have been trying for a house, any size, any district, since 2.4. I have not been successful. I have lost EIGHT coinflips.

Were I just an anomaly, I'd grumblingly accept that my time may come. But I am not. Dozens of friends who started in SB/ShB still lack houses. Every small that goes up anywhere on Balmung reaches 40+ bids every cycle.

In 6.3 when the new wards drop and I lost a 1/2 and a 1/4 I gave in. I made alts on Malboro and Mateus. Surely I could get a house on lesser servers and at least have a quick world hop for my main to use it for RP. It'd be annoying if I needed to change furniture or get the orchestrion rolls again but at least I would HAVE a house to decorate for RP/events. I have lost every cycle on them as well.

Do the math here with me a moment. There are 5 neighborhoods, 30 wards in each and 60 plots in each of those. Ignoring size/owner restrictions, that is a total of 9000 housing units. As of the Lucky Bancho Lodestone census for October 2023, Balmung had a grand total of... 11971 active level 90 players. There are less houses than active 90's by well over 2000. That isn't even mentioning that anyone 50 and up who has the seals to get to 2nd LT and finished ARR can have a house. Nor the fact that a good fifth of the houses are in FC only wards and individuals have to compete with FC's in 3/5ths of them. This issue isn't just a Balmung problem. Every server on Aether and Crystal have this problem.

This is now the part where Stormpeaks and other Dynamis users say "Just move to Dynamis! There are still houses here! If you don't move it's clear housing isn't a priority for you."

The problem with that argument is that while housing is important. I should not have to give up being a part of my FC and social circles just to utilize a basic feature of the game. "But Apartments and the Island Sanctuary are housing!" is always then said too which I respond "Apartments and IS are essentially instanced housing. What's wrong with making their be options for sizes?" Add onto the fact that now every Dynamis server also is above 9000 active 90's via census data and it's only a matter of time (Especially with the Xbox release coming) until those wards are all full too.

The final argument of "If housing is instanced, Square will lose subs because people pay just to keep houses." just falls flat if you just turn on Auto demolition for instanced houses too. Is it scummy? Sure. But in the end it would absolutely make MORE money for Square.

I'm tired of losing a bid every week and walking to a placard. I just want a house. I don't care where. Hopefully with the cloud servers they just steal the LOTRO housing model straight up and just spin up new wards on the fly the moment one fills up. That way we get the best of both worlds.

Not everyone is like you. But it will be like an open gateway for those who wanna try it and get what they want let them think if they want to do a story, casual content for unlocking the next furniture types, etc. This means more time spent, subs, fun for them ...something that will catch them to the game. Not everyone likes the MMORPG genre or wants to play it because there is a lot of struggle to learn it. And don't say you don't understand right now. It would be cool Gotch ya move from SE to make a lot of people play it. They can make some options to the free trial to make it simpler but not so much and give them a chance to try "how it will look like when they want to pay sub" ...easy way

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

Wait is this an alt account for Stormpeaks? You know what whatever, anyway, thats so generous of you..."at least a small house" she says.

But not a mid or large house oh nooo we cant have everyone buy one even though they have the funds for it.

This is the kind of thing that is stupid with your dynamic ward system. It still trying to gatekeep people in some way. The only hurdle you should have is not having the money in general to buy any size house.

And besides Ive already stated that you can keep your shitty ward system for people that somehow want that prestige neighborhood that the devs are so stubborn to keep. But having instanced purchasable houses of varying sizes alongside it will help with everyone else to access the content.

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Except it won't happen beyond what we got for Island Sanctuary because, again, ward housing is what SE wants to create a need to stay subscribed to the game. If we were going to get true instanced, we would have gotten it with IS. They literally hooked it into the housing servers, I remember the first day it came out people couldn't get into their houses lmao. SE gains nothing by putting instanced in, literally nothing. If you want them to put it in, you have to find a way for them to profit off it and make the time/manpower worth it to implement. Lottery fell into that category because it still forces people to stay subbed to keep a house, providing SE with the means to profit.

Another issue I have is that we would be losing something content wise in order to implement instanced housing because it would be a much larger task compared to just hooking a lottery system into the existing ward housing, just like how we lost Bozja/Eureka equivalent this year for Criterion/Variant. Square's development is like a cup, to quote Xenos, you can't overfill that cup. If you want something new in that cup, you have to take something out of that cup to make room.

And yes, personally, unless I'm going to be refunded the full price for the two plots I have + the value of the submarines in them + the time and money spent on them in a general sense, I am firmly against instanced housing being a full replacement to the ward system. If they refund owners fairly (for me personally I wouldn't take less than 100m gil) then I would be on board with it being replaced.

I get that Storm makes some hot takes sometimes but yall really need to direct your anger to the right place. Instead of complaining about people who have invested time into the ward system and rightfully would be upset at that being taken away without any form of compensation, people should be piling on Yoshi to get a flat answer about if instanced housing is going to happen and the reasons for why they aren't implementing it. At the end of the day, even if every single ward owner was on board and ready to take on instanced, it's up to Yoshi and the dev team whether or not we get it.

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People would NOT be happy with auto demolition for instanced houses, let me tell you, because it doesnt make sense at all, it doesnt even take space on the servers until you actually step inside of it, why would people accept an auto demo system ? People would literally riot lmao, you have no idea.

Also Balmung (and a few crystal worlds in general) are basically self inflicted issues, but my idea that I put on page 1 would fix that problem, dynamic housing would literally fix that issue entirely and people would be able to at least get a small house, with mediums and larges still staying rare.

Regarding Dynamis, it still is a more than valid option, even if you disagree with it, if you REALLY care about housing, you'd move, if not, then you truly dont care as much as you pretend to, its obvious the system is not changing anytime soon so it's really up to the players to decide if they care enough about a house or not to move.

And people asked for lottery, instead of having 10 or so people camping a house, you have 50+, that's what people wanted, they asked for a "fair" chance for literally everyone, and we got it. It's all fair now.

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Originally Posted by LianaThorne

Except it won't happen beyond what we got for Island Sanctuary because, again, ward housing is what SE wants to create a need to stay subscribed to the game. If we were going to get true instanced, we would have gotten it with IS. They literally hooked it into the housing servers lmao. SE gains nothing by putting in instanced in, literally nothing.

I get that Storm makes some hot takes sometimes but yall really need to direct your anger to the right place.

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Exactly this, idk why this guy (and multiple others as well) think raging at me is going to do anything, they should rage at SE if anything lmao, but hey it's better to blame multiowners or fight in between house owners apparently.

Instanced housing if it was going to happen was going to happen with IS, that's what everyone was hyping up, and it didnt, it's time for yall to get the hint that they dont want it.

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Originally Posted by AlexiaD

Regarding Dynamis, it still is a more than valid option, even if you disagree with it, if you REALLY care about housing, you'd move, if not, then you truly dont care as much as you pretend to, its obvious the system is not changing anytime soon so it's really up to the players to decide if they care enough about a house or not to move.

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Like clockwork. I called it.

People are already unhappy. They have been unhappy for YEARS. Square does not care. Autodemoing Instanced housing would suck sure til you realize "Oh I can just buy another one." Yeah you're out gil and decorating time but you still have all the items.

And as I said before. It is not just "Balmung and a few crystal shards" problem. It's ALL of Crystal and ALL of Aether. Balmung is just the worst example.

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Originally Posted by AlexiaD

And people asked for lottery, instead of having 10 or so people camping a house, you have 50+, that's what people wanted, they asked for a "fair" chance for literally everyone, and we got it. It's all fair now.

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I said this a while ago when lottery first was announced and people were excited for it that it wouldn't be the dream process they want. All it did was make it easier for more people to bid on a plot and people who multi-account can still just put bids on all of their characters and weight the lottery.

Ya'll kinda shot yourself in the foot on this one, I really doubt that Square is going to take the time in the near future to fix it when this was demanded by the community above instanced housing and implemented pretty recently.

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Originally Posted by Sourcy

Like clockwork. I called it.

People are already unhappy. They have been unhappy for YEARS. Square does not care. Autodemoing Instanced housing would suck sure til you realize "Oh I can just buy another one." Yeah you're out gil and decorating time but you still have all the items.

And as I said before. It is not just "Balmung and a few crystal shards" problem. It's ALL of Crystal and ALL of Aether. Balmung is just the worst example.

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I aint a dev, I can only give you the only solution that exists which is to either keep bidding endlessly, or move, I cant invent something to help you, that's why I'm saying that moving to Dynamis is the solution, I cant create a solution myself.

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Originally Posted by LianaThorne

I said this a while ago when lottery first was announced and people were excited for it that it wouldn't be the dream process they want. All it did was make it easier for more people to bid on a plot and people who multi-account can still just put bids on all of their characters and weight the lottery.

Ya'll kinda shot yourself in the foot on this one, I really doubt that Square is going to take the time in the near future to fix it when this was demanded by the community above instanced housing and implemented pretty recently.

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This.

People wanted fair, yall got fair, now enjoy it.