Can we get some clarification on Solo Blunderville instances?

I assume that solo instances are not intended at all unless on the off chance that you somehow are the only person queueing(unlikely right now).

Something else no one seems to have mentioned is that it's possible for the instances to be full, hence while during peak hours in the evening you can have a 5 minute+ queue to even get into the starting lobby. So realistically, right now if you're in a solo instance during peak hours then you're potentially making 23 other people wait.

I'm mostly asking because a lot people are attempting to figure out how to rig their way into a solo instance consistently so they can farm the achievements.

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Originally Posted by NekoMataMata

I assume that solo instances are not intended at all unless on the off chance that you somehow are the only person queueing(unlikely right now).

Something else no one seems to have mentioned is that it's possible for the instances to be full, hence while during peak hours in the evening you can have a 5 minute+ queue to even get into the starting lobby. So realistically, right now if you're in a solo instance during peak hours then you're potentially making 23 other people wait.

I'm mostly asking because a lot people are attempting to figure out how to rig their way into a solo instance consistently so they can farm the achievements.

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I'm mostly asking because a lot people are attempting to figure out how to rig their way into a solo instance consistently so they can farm the achievements.

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Can you blame then when there is an achievement for 100 wins and the event is completely broken thanks to the netcode ?

I can only confirm with my wife, when the two of us were in party and did it together, only one of us could get past the first round, i think she then had to do the 2nd (not sure if she had to actually do that one, though) and 3rd, which was still basically a free win.

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Originally Posted by AlexiaD

Can you blame then when there is an achievement for 100 wins and the event is completely broken thanks to the netcode ?

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Yes-no.

I understand their position and sympathize. I don't necessarily support what they're doing.

People have apparently DC traveled to Dynamis hoping for easier wins and I guess faster queues, but even here there seems to be queues now. People in discords are admitting that they're forcing solo instances and I can't help but think that's a bit selfish.

Let people be selfish if they want. In this case it's literally hurting no one.

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Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn

Let people be selfish if they want. In this case it's literally hurting no one.

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This tbh
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Originally Posted by Thurmnmurmn

Let people be selfish if they want. In this case it's literally hurting no one.

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It's not though. Other people have to wait in queue because you filled a solo instance on your own. Maybe in a few weeks when not as many people are playing it'll be fine, but right now it's not right.

And that's a SE issue. Not a player issue.

Probably not intended.

Just like a lot of other things that occur in the collab.

You can't. Sometimes matchmaking just gives up on your instance and moves on to another. If it happens when you just started a fresh instance on your own, then winner winner chicken dinner. (Unless you still can't make it through the blue zone on Saucery Siege or whatever.)


I'm willing to bet it's something very similar to what can happen in Eureka/Bozja instances when they get "locked".

I got in solo as well within an hour of the worlds going up, even though lots of people were there on my world alone.

I think it is just like the chocobo races where it tries to bring 24 people into an instance, but if it doesn't manage it after a minute or so then it just starts anyway. So if there are 25 people then you could get into one on your own. I'm not certain why others wouldn't join in that time when it's new content, so maybe each instance also sort of rotates how relevant it is like Eureka and Bozja do.

One time in Eureka for example the instance locked and I was in there alone for 3 hours, and near the end of it, it opened up again and everyone joined saying "fresh instance".

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Originally Posted by Kuroka

I can only confirm with my wife, when the two of us were in party and did it together, only one of us could get past the first round, i think she then had to do the 2nd (not sure if she had to actually do that one, though) and 3rd, which was still basically a free win.

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This happened to me and my partner too! Waited well over 5 min for an instance for 30 sec of playing together. I can't face the boredom of requeuing to see if it happens every time. Just gonna have to solo-queue it and hope we get matchmade like CC. Or just like CC, not even bother >:C

I'd be surprised if it is something that can be gamed. And also not surprised, I guess. Objectively, yea, it's not "fair". But I dunno, of all the things in FFXIV that I have an issue with, a title for 100 wins of this event.... my personal view is meh. If someone can game it, more power to them.

For a Cross over with too many variables not allowing players to have 0 BS, Work as intended Scenario.

Perfectly Reasonable.

So Reasonable that I would partake in it if I knew how to get 100 solo guaranteed.

otherwise it's a, is it worth it to travel to a DC with no access to retainers as I farm.

or just pray to get one win in many hours.

omg, that's AWFUL. How are they doing that so I can make sure NOT to do that??

If you have to wait for 5 minutes and the game doesnt manage to put you into a real lobby i think you should be compensated with a free win. No need to be extra punished with a cancelled game and an extra queue (which could again place you in an empty lobby)

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Originally Posted by ChrysOCE

I'd be surprised if it is something that can be gamed. And also not surprised, I guess. Objectively, yea, it's not "fair". But I dunno, of all the things in FFXIV that I have an issue with, a title for 100 wins of this event.... my personal view is meh. If someone can game it, more power to them.

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I mean I don't have an issue with them farming wins for the title. I've said this multiple times, not sure why people keep misinterpreting. This isn't a thread on, "Oh no, people are successfully working towards their goals and being happy." This a thread on people holding up the instances because they think their goal is more valuable than the time of 23 other players.

It's more so that there's limited instances on each DC, and that if you force a solo instance during peak times then you're making 23 other people wait.

That's a SE problem, not something for us to be concerned about. We don't control when their matchmaking screws up.

If you get a solo instance and you really feel that bad about tying up an instance, you can just leave if you really want to. Ultimately though it really isn't going to make that big of a difference in the grand scheme of things. Any time you pop a queue for anything in the DF you are potentially delaying another player's queue; you shouldn't just not ever queue for anything as a result.


Another thing to note is that no matter how packed an instance is, only one person at most is going to get a win from it, whether it's just you or 24 there. A solo instance is probably going to go a lot faster too, since there won't be any waiting time after you qualify.

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Originally Posted by NekoMataMata

I mean I don't have an issue with them farming wins for the title. I've said this multiple times, not sure why people keep misinterpreting. This isn't a thread on, "Oh no, people are successfully working towards their goals and being happy." This a thread on people holding up the instances because they think their goal is more valuable than the time of 23 other players.

It's more so that there's limited instances on each DC, and that if you force a solo instance during peak times then you're making 23 other people wait.

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That's fair. I guess it depends on each DC. Materia, I had one instance of doing it solo. Every other time, I popped in straight away (with various total numbers present), so it seems like there's always an instance ready to go? But, again, that's just from Materia.

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Originally Posted by Boblawblah

omg, that's AWFUL. How are they doing that so I can make sure NOT to do that??

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Originally Posted by NekoMataMata

I assume that solo instances are not intended at all unless on the off chance that you somehow are the only person queueing(unlikely right now).

Something else no one seems to have mentioned is that it's possible for the instances to be full, hence while during peak hours in the evening you can have a 5 minute+ queue to even get into the starting lobby. So realistically, right now if you're in a solo instance during peak hours then you're potentially making 23 other people wait.

I'm mostly asking because a lot people are attempting to figure out how to rig their way into a solo instance consistently so they can farm the achievements.

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I ended up in solo instances twice last night without trying to. I THINK it happened because if errors in the matchmaking. I say this because at the time there were huge numbers of people queued (as could be seen around me while waiting) so there was no reason for there to be a solo instance. The odds of 23 other people not clicking in when the queue popped are just ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by AlexiaD

Can you blame then when there is an achievement for 100 wins and the event is completely broken thanks to the netcode ?

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Funny how all of those other players are able to win while fighting the same netcode as you.

Actually it’s a player issue if it’s a bug and being exploited for personal gain.

I’m sure you’re aware of that this isn’t your first logic rodeo I’m assuming.

Obviously the buck stops at square to issue the fix you as the player are suppose to not abuse and report the bug.

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Originally Posted by Poporito_Popoto

Funny how all of those other players are able to win while fighting the same netcode as you.

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There has been change in how queues are handled, or maybe a bugfix.

Before: queue like Frontline, outside world
Now: instantly hop into waiting room, wait for players happens there.

It most likely resolved solo instance bugs as well.

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Originally Posted by MAJRIS

There has been change in how queues are handled, or maybe a bugfix.

Before: queue like Frontline, outside world
Now: instantly hop into waiting room, wait for players happens there.

It most likely resolved solo instance bugs as well.

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It did not. I just got a solo queue about 20 mins ago.

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Originally Posted by Poporito_Popoto

Funny how all of those other players are able to win while fighting the same netcode as you.

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Being able to compensate for a bad server doesn't make the system good. I have absolutely exploited the bad netcode and ran through AoEs that should have hit me. Does that make the system better?

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Originally Posted by NekoMataMata

Yes-no.

I understand their position and sympathize. I don't necessarily support what they're doing.

People have apparently DC traveled to Dynamis hoping for easier wins and I guess faster queues, but even here there seems to be queues now. People in discords are admitting that they're forcing solo instances and I can't help but think that's a bit selfish.

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This is not new to Dynamis. Whenever I try Eureka and Bozja on Dynamis it's mostly players trying to cheese easy duels and easy NM farms on rare drops, since you can leave the instance and force all cooldowns on spawns to reset.
They really should do something about it that dynamis DF/PF is unusable except the 3-4 places where players from crystal/primal come over to try to cheese queues.

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Originally Posted by AlexiaD

Can you blame then when there is an achievement for 100 wins and the event is completely broken thanks to the netcode ?

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I'm 90 ping on east coast and the game mode is more than fine. They should try just getting good at the game they play 24/7 instead?

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Originally Posted by TomsYoungerBro

I'm 90 ping on east coast and the game mode is more than fine. They should try just getting good at the game they play 24/7 instead?

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Thanks! :)

This bug has existed for years. You can reliably trigger it on Leap of Faith by just queueing as soon as it comes up.

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Originally Posted by Oizen

This bug has existed for years. You can reliably trigger it on Leap of Faith by just queueing as soon as it comes up.

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Well according to people on reddit the same tool that gives people the visuals for dodging things in-game also has a function to quickly join/leave the fall guy's lobby in an attempt to get a solo instance. There's no penalty for leaving, so it can just get spammed constantly. I'm curious if this has impacted wait times, but there's no way I'm going back and playing right now.

Be funny if SE noticed ppl using a tool to spam join/leave to get solo instances and put something in that caused these ppl to keep getting put into the same lobbies with each other... but this is SE we're talking about. Even though I do find it funny as hell when devs and game companies decide to screw with and troll ppl using cheats and exploits in games. Hell, even something as simple as sticking those FF16 brands on faces of ppl that used 3rd party tools at some point would be humorous...

This issue has existed in Gold Saucer since long before Fall Guys came about. If you signed up for Leap of Faith the moment the NPC popped, you would often end up in a solo instance.

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Originally Posted by NekoMataMata

Well according to people on reddit the same tool that gives people the visuals for dodging things in-game also has a function to quickly join/leave the fall guy's lobby in an attempt to get a solo instance. There's no penalty for leaving, so it can just get spammed constantly. I'm curious if this has impacted wait times, but there's no way I'm going back and playing right now.

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People trying to get into solo instances will not significantly affect wait times. Once you are in a lobby (which happens instantly upon signup), that lobby is guaranteed to start a match either when its 2 minute timer runs out or when it fills with 24 people. You may not get an early start if people keep leaving, but there is nothing that can stop or roll back the countdown timer.