Dawntrail is the expansion we needed after Endwalker

After seeing the trailer for Dawntrail, everything about the expansion has the feels of what is needed after what we went through in Endwalker. I am really looking forward to it even though it's not until June / July 2024 and willing to wait for it because it looks like it will be worth it!

Thanks, SE, for giving us exactly what we needed to feel better!

Edit for clarity: This is not sarcasm and my real opinion :)

Can't tell if this is sarcasm or not lol.

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Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora

Can't tell if this is sarcasm or not lol.

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Am rather hoping it's genuine, as it's an nice counter to the 'disappointment' threads.

Bummed on the long wait tbh, but the trailer looks like this expansion will be fun, even if it's generally more of the same.

If serious, then I'm withholding judgment at any rate. But a more grounded story is appreciated.

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Originally Posted by Carin-Eri

Am rather hoping it's genuine, as it's an nice counter to the 'disappointment' threads.

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It shouldn't need to be a counter. People should be free to express themselves in a manner they so wish without it being a counter or a response to something else.

It's this kind of statement that is going the encourage some people to lobby around this argument in a veiled attempt to just derail it.

A lot of the areas kind of look like Thavnair 2.0 with more flower pots and better shaders, the gap in between now and the expansion is also huge, hopefully the expansion lives up to expectations and content actually becomes fun instead of being done 2 days to a week in every patch.

Hopefully a new housing area also comes out and proper themed furnitures instead of random furnitures with completely different themes that make no sense

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Originally Posted by Kaurhz

If serious, then I'm withholding judgment at any rate. But a more grounded story is appreciated.



It shouldn't need to be a counter. People should be free to express themselves in a manner they so wish without it being a counter or a response to something else.

It's this kind of statement that is going the encourage some people to lobby around this argument in a veiled attempt to just derail it.

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This also, this forum is all about "counter negativity" a lot of the time, and its not genuine one bit, its basically just "oh there's a negative post ? let me make a positive one to counter it !"

I'm excited for it. New story, new location, new cultures and characters.

I'm fine with low stakes as long as it's fun and the characters are likeable.

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Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora

Can't tell if this is sarcasm or not lol.

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I hope it is genuine as I am also genuinely happy that we are taking a step back from the world ending threats for some fun and competition in essentially South America. Sure they did say that they have 2 more expansion ideas in mind already but this expansion is where I thought the story was going to go during patch 6.1. Glad they are going full swing into it.

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Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora

Can't tell if this is sarcasm or not lol.

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Yes, I am genuinely happy to see this expansion, its theme and the wonderful use of colors. It feels like a wonderful, vibrant, adventure in contrast to what we experienced in Endwalker.

For me, I really needed this expansion!

I updated my original post to make sure its not mistaken for sarcasm :)

Thanks! ^_^

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Originally Posted by Kaurhz

If serious, then I'm withholding judgment at any rate. But a more grounded story is appreciated.



It shouldn't need to be a counter. People should be free to express themselves in a manner they so wish without it being a counter or a response to something else.

It's this kind of statement that is going the encourage some people to lobby around this argument in a veiled attempt to just derail it.

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That's not what I meant.

What I meant (though didn't really make it as clear as I should've) is that it'd be refreshing to have a thread created specifically to discuss a positive opinion around the teaser trailer, since we already have at least two or three threads specifically discussing negative opinion of it.

I'd be more excited if there wasn't scions.

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Originally Posted by Carin-Eri

That's not what I meant.

What I meant (though didn't really make it as clear as I should've) is that it'd be refreshing to have a thread created specifically to discuss a positive opinion around the teaser trailer, since we already have at least two or three threads specifically discussing negative opinion of it.

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It was clear that that was the definition of "counter" you meant, no worries.

Not that I see what the big sin of "making a thread to talk about something positive b/c you got tired of seeing a bunch of negative stuff" is, exactly. The inciting event that gave you the push to make the thread doesn't negate the validity of the opinion expressed in the thread. This subtext that some seem to think of "the negativity is genuine, while the positivity is just brainwashing/shilling/disingenuous" is really idiotic.

To be on topic:

I am also looking forward to this expansion, given the trailer. I like the tone. But, then, I also expect and look forward most to what I think will be a B plot regarding the void or world travel or something else interesting that will tie into whatever the new meta-story arc is gonna be. I really don't think that this expac's story will be completely self-contained and somehow just not matter once its over, like an actual beach episode. That'd be very weird. Even Stormblood, despite basically having nothing to do with Ascians in its main story, had its follow ups. If DT doesn't, then it will feel oddly isolated from the rest of the world, imo.

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Originally Posted by Hyperia

Yes, I am genuinely happy to see this expansion, its theme and the wonderful use of colors. It feels like a wonderful, vibrant, adventure in contrast to what we experienced in Endwalker.

For me, I really needed this expansion!

I updated my original post to make sure its not mistaken for sarcasm :)

Thanks! ^_^

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Thanks for clarifying, after being here a while it can be hard to tell :) I'm very happy you are excited for the expansion - I'm keeping an open mind. I am happy they are going in a new direction and really hope they nail the landing on the new story. I'm not sold quite yet, but am hopeful.

imo it's too early to say that but if you feel that way, I'm fine with that^^
As for me personally there's no Good Summer Vacation without Kaiten.
Also.. I saved the Entire Universe at lvl90 but I reach lvl100 on a Summer Vacation.. huh.. but well, I anticipated to save the Thirteenth Shard in 7.0 Dawnsinger. Though I'm kinda glad to be wrong about that since I made plans for alts that I would play for that Scenario, since that didn't happen, there is also no reason to make those alts.
But I also liked the Gameplay of Endwalker until 6.1 ..so yeah I hope they Bring Back Kaiten and then
Every Day is a Summer Vacation~

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Originally Posted by RyuuZero

imo it's too early to say that but if you feel that way, I'm fine with that^^
As for me personally there's no Good Summer Vacation without Kaiten.
Also.. I saved the Entire Universe at lvl90 but I reach lvl100 on a Summer Vacation.. huh.. but well, I anticipated to save the Thirteenth Shard in 7.0 Dawnsinger. Though I'm kinda glad to be wrong about that since I made plans for alts that I would play for that Scenario, since that didn't happen, there is also no reason to make those alts.
But I also liked the Gameplay of Endwalker until 6.1 ..so yeah I hope they Bring Back Kaiten and then
Every Day is a Summer Vacation~

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Just wanna say, Dawnsinger is a cool name for an expac. They could introduce songstress (songster?) as a class. Could be dope. lol

I've enjoyed all the expansions. I hope this one build a sense of new adventures we want to look forward too. Also one that introduces a score of new characters. They certainly have extra time for development lets hope it will be worth the wait.

I hope the story actually picks up and is a bit darker than "beach episode". We'll have to wait and see, I guess.

I'm looking forward to it. You can't have everything too heavy or you desensitize people to the low parts so something lighter is a welcome change. And I fully expect it will be the "beach episode but things go horribly wrong in some manner" type of story and will hopefully add some threads for the next overarching story arc.

We need the reset due to the weak afterwards of 6.0. Biggest problem reset is nearly all the scions are somewhat force to join on the adventure. I want new characters joining the adventure and im ok sometimes old ones can tag along. It might be reason of Duty Support we are stuck with them.

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Originally Posted by Zarkovitch

We need the reset due to the weak afterwards of 6.0. Biggest problem reset is nearly all the scions are somewhat force to join on the adventure. I want new characters joining the adventure and im ok sometimes old ones can tag along. It might be reason of Duty Support we are stuck with them.

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They did mention new Duty Support members. I'll be curious to see who those are.

Personally, I quite like the trailer and feel it does exactly what a teaser trailer should do; it's something of an aperitif to whet the appetite but can see why some found it underwhelming.

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

And I fully expect it will be the "beach episode but things go horribly wrong in some manner" type of story

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I don't even think it looks like a beach episode. We might have a chance to go to the beach, but overall we're looking pretty busy.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

I don't even think it looks like a beach episode. We might have a chance to go to the beach, but overall we're looking pretty busy.

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Might have a little time before the contest for the throne ramps up. But yeah the story outlined doesn't speak to me about a lot of downtime. Plus Y'shtola is putting some pieces together so I'm sure she'll have us looking into some things.

i guess some havent learnt anything in the past 2 yrs

in the gaming world always KEEP expectations low...that way the blow of a bad product(or not meeting your , again , expectations) wont be that hard.

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Originally Posted by keichirou

i guess some havent learnt anything in the past 2 yrs

in the gaming world always KEEP expectations low...that way the blow of a bad product(or not meeting your , again , expectations) wont be that hard.

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I'd have to dig a grave for my expectations at this point.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

I'm excited for it. New story, new location, new cultures and characters.

I'm fine with low stakes as long as it's fun and the characters are likeable.

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I suppose this is my cautiously hopeful take as well. I'm not a fan of "filler beach episode", so I hope it's not THAT. But ARR and SB were fun and were (generally speaking) lower stakes (HW involved a lot of life and death of us and people we personally knew, and ShB and EW involved the fate of the world(s) and the universe, respectfully; so SB's kind of minor to moderate skirmishes in a mostly entrenched combat zone were low stakes by comparison), so they might make it compelling enough. And there is going to be the political intrigue going on, so as long as they make the characters and peoples there ones I actually care about to make that have weight, I guess I'm okay with it.

CAUTIOUSLY hopeful, but still hopeful.

Wasn't a jungle + Beach combo the section of ARR that had the series of Cheese and Wine related quests? I sure hope they don't try to do a throwback of that.

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Originally Posted by keichirou

i guess some havent learnt anything in the past 2 yrs

in the gaming world always KEEP expectations low...that way the blow of a bad product(or not meeting your , again , expectations) wont be that hard.

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My expectations are so low Satan is tripping over them at this point, honestly. But it's nice to have at least a little hope once in a while.

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Originally Posted by Rithy255

I'd be more excited if there wasn't scions.

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When watching the trailer I was thinking "oh that's pretty nice" to pretty much everything, including Erenville and Estinien coming back, but then they started rapid fire showing the scions, then that mild interest turned into this:

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The news had me pretty excited, especially with the thought of a possible new dex melee and caster. For years, I wanted to return to just being an adventurer. Exploring and discovering new locations and meeting new tribes in the world. To be put some place where I don't feel all powerful. While some of that can't be helped, at least it's a step in the right direction. However, my disappointment came when they said we'd have more of the same and no news of any new features or experimental content/improvements to rewards of criterions. I thought this fanfest was going to break me and finally make me unsub, but I guess I have to hold out for the next one. Maybe do an ultimate in the meantime or something.

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Originally Posted by WeissTuna

The news had me pretty excited, especially with the thought of a possible new dex melee and caster. For years, I wanted to return to just being an adventurer. Exploring and discovering new locations and meeting new tribes in the world. To be put some place where I don't feel all powerful.

I thought this fanfest was going to break me and finally make me unsub, but I guess I have to hold out for the next one. Maybe do an ultimate in the meantime or something.

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I really didn’t like the idea of being “just an adventurer” but how they presented it, I’m ok with it now.

I was also leaning into the make or break camp with the expansion but all of the themes shown in the trailer were exactly what I needed but didn’t know I wanted.

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Originally Posted by Hyperia

After seeing the trailer for Dawntrail, everything about the expansion has the feels of what is needed after what we went through in Endwalker. I am really looking forward to it even though it's not until June / July 2024 and willing to wait for it because it looks like it will be worth it!

Thanks, SE, for giving us exactly what we needed to feel better!

Edit for clarity: This is not sarcasm and my real opinion :)

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My problem is the narrative itself. Spoilers for the entire MSQ up to and including Endwalker

We saved the world. Then we saved another diemnsion. Then we saved the entire universe and all of creation.

But now we're... gonna help find a new ruler for a distant faraway land? The stakes surely deflated.
But don't get me wrong! I'm not exactly complaining. This could be a great breath of fresh air, a very much needed change of pace towards less dramatic circumstances.
I just hope it's handled properly.
What we saw about the new continent is really hype, I love to see mesoamerican and Andes cultures blended into Eorzea.

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Originally Posted by LinaAkayomi

My problem is the narrative itself. Spoilers for the entire MSQ up to and including Endwalker

We saved the world. Then we saved another diemnsion. Then we saved the entire universe and all of creation.

But now we're... gonna help find a new ruler for a distant faraway land? The stakes surely deflated.
But don't get me wrong! I'm not exactly complaining. This could be a great breath of fresh air, a very much needed change of pace towards less dramatic circumstances.
I just hope it's handled properly.
What we saw about the new continent is really hype, I love to see mesoamerican and Andes cultures blended into Eorzea.

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The stakes will inevitably raise again eventually, having a soft reset while exploring the world is a good way to lay down a lot of new plotlines and potentially use some older forgotten ones. A lot of people complain about de-powering the player but they have always relied on plot devices and friends.

Things might not seem as hype without a clear big bad in sight, but it leaves more room to build up another or even several. If it ends up being some ancient evil, it would be kinda hilarious if they keep waking up one after another year after year, so the slight break will make it seem less ridiculous.

I hope it ends up being more about the local politics instead of just chill trip though.

I hadn't even considered that there'd be people upset about more scions. Guess I just took it for granted