Patch 1.16a.....

[patch1.16a] 1.16a Patch Notes
* Following content is planned to be implemented upon the release of patch 1.16a.
* An adjustment could be made on this content depending on the testing result.


Event Updates
[dev1004] Accepted quests can now be abandoned.
Quests can now be abandoned via the question description screen in the journal.
* If you abandon a quest while in an instanced area, you will automatically be transported out of the area.
* You cannot abandon a quest while participating in an event battle.
[dev1036] You will now be able to gain experience points, skill points, and receive loot when you defeat enemies as part of a sidequest.
Because of these changes, respawn rates of sidequest enemies have been lengthened.

Item Updates
[dev1016] Synthesis: Up to 8 items per class can now be stored under synthesis recipe history.

System Updates
[dev1035] Two different targeting modes are now available.
Targeting Mode A (Targeting mode before the patch 1.16)
Target/Menu Navigation Keys and Corresponding Actions
Up/Down
Target party members in order
Left/Right
Cycle through all selectable targets
* Selecting Targeting Mode A set the Targeting Mode to "ALL."
Targeting Mode B (Targeting mode after the patch 1.16)
Target/Menu Navigation Keys and Corresponding Actions
Up/Down
Cycle through targeting modes
Left/Right
Cycle through valid targets, according to the targeting mode currently selected, in order
* Selecting Targeting Mode B will disable Targeting Mode "ALL."
* You can also switch targeting modes using the text command "/targetmode (/tmode)"
/targetmode(/tmode) SubCommand
>>SubCommand
　a 　Switch target mode to A
　b 　Switch target mode to B
　None Toggle A and B
　* Targeting Mode A is selected by default


Nice... but i was expecting a bit more..... glad for the exp and skill points in quests tho'.

Larger than 1.15b, hopefully other patches will be of this size too.

yeh, im confused about the targetting system in 1.16a. i guess i wont really know how it is until it goes live.

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Originally Posted by Onidemon

[patch1.16a]
System Updates
[dev1035] Two different targeting modes are now available.
Targeting Mode A (Targeting mode before the patch 1.16)
Target/Menu Navigation Keys and Corresponding Actions
Up/Down
Target party members in order
Left/Right
Cycle through all selectable targets
* Selecting Targeting Mode A set the Targeting Mode to "ALL."
Targeting Mode B (Targeting mode after the patch 1.16)
Target/Menu Navigation Keys and Corresponding Actions
Up/Down
Cycle through targeting modes
Left/Right
Cycle through valid targets, according to the targeting mode currently selected, in order
* Selecting Targeting Mode B will disable Targeting Mode "ALL."
* You can also switch targeting modes using the text command "/targetmode (/tmode)"
/targetmode(/tmode) SubCommand
>>SubCommand
　a 　Switch target mode to A
　b 　Switch target mode to B
　None Toggle A and B
　* Targeting Mode A is selected by default

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Thank god. The last change to targeting was, imo, the worst change they've ever made.

Really? I found the targeting system they put in to be quite useful. I mean being able to target JUST enemies was a godsend especially in Behests and large leve groups.

it sucked for healers, we liked the old one...now we have both.....problem solved ^^

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Originally Posted by Arcell

Really? I found the targeting system they put in to be quite useful. I mean being able to target JUST enemies was a godsend especially in Behests and large leve groups.

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I thought it was pretty good too. I think people don't like learning new things, even if it's better than the old way. Especially after they're used to doing old way for so long.

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Originally Posted by JakeRoon

it sucked for healers, we liked the old one...now we have both.....problem solved ^^

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Options are always good.

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Originally Posted by Sonic_the_Hedgehog

I thought it was pretty good too. I think people don't like learning new things, even if it's better than the old way. Especially after they're used to doing old way for so long.

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It has nothing to do with "learning new things" [subterfuge insult FTW!] it had to do with the fact they removed the up/down party list quick targeting. Prior to patch the up/down was party members....left/right was all targets. This made healing while casting offensive magic very easy. Post patch, you had to constantly change targeting modes back and fourth from "party" to "enemy"[or whatever] or leave it on "all" BUT pressing up/down changed targeting mode not select party members anymore....

in short it was a nightmare for a lot of healers, thank heavens they fixed it, while leaving in the option for the way you guys like it too. OPTIONS ftw!

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Originally Posted by JakeRoon

[subterfuge insult FTW!]

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Why thank you, I try my best!

Anyway, I have no problems with them giving you the option to choose with system you want to use, to each their own. But I just never found it hard to switch between PARTY and ENEMY, then pressing left and right to select your target.

do you play with a beer in one hand? lol

it's not "hard" .....it was just far more fluid to simply be able to press up/down and quickly heal party members; for the majority of healers. Hence the outcry...hence the addition of the option.

It really was a good move to add in the options and I hope they continue with the trend.

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Originally Posted by JakeRoon

do you play with a beer in one hand? lol

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Nope, but I do have the occasional chili dog though. ;)

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Originally Posted by Arcell

Really? I found the targeting system they put in to be quite useful. I mean being able to target JUST enemies was a godsend especially in Behests and large leve groups.

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Me too; I really liked the changes they made. However, I have one gripe:

Whoever thought that using left/right was an acceptable way to change between party members needs to be stabbed with a spork. I really hope they give us the choice of using left/right for mode change and up/down for target changes.

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Originally Posted by Dreamer

Me too; I really liked the changes they made. However, I have one gripe:

Whoever thought that using left/right was an acceptable way to change between party members needs to be stabbed with a spork. I really hope they give us the choice of using left/right for mode change and up/down for target changes.

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I think you're talking about me. In my brain, it makes sense to me that if my party member that I want to cure or use whatever on is on my left, then I should press the left button to select them.

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Originally Posted by JakeRoon

it sucked for healers, we liked the old one...now we have both.....problem solved ^^

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This should do this with everything lol!

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Originally Posted by Sonic_the_Hedgehog

I think you're talking about me. In my brain, it makes sense to me that if my party member that I want to cure or use whatever on is on my left, then I should press the left button to select them.

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They can be really hard to pick out in large groups, though. I much prefer to scroll up and down the party list - I know exactly how many key presses are needed to highlight the member I want. With left and right, I have a rough estimate that usually isn't accurate due to players I didn't notice standing behind other members.

If this is the level of "change" that is going to be brought to this game with every patch, then I am giving up all hope right now. Let's see what they have done in the 5 months since release: changed targeting system, fixed marketing system (best change), made mobs bigger, changed way we get SP, added sidequests. All of the fundamental problems of the game are still in place (poorly designed UI/battle system/animations/delay times etc.). I am seriously worried now.

Any idea when this patch is supposed to take place? I may have missed it but I don't recall seeing anywhere when it is supposed to go in effect.

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Let's see what they have done in the 5 months since release:

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-Management changed after 2 months, the development restarted from the scratch with a month used for setting things up.

Oh wow, the future is suddenly a lot brighter. They (the new team) haven't had time to finish anything substantial at this point, and the old team didn't have time to finish whatever they had started in just 2 months either. It may be unacceptable that they haven't changed the class system in a span of 5(6 really) months, but they have only worked on that stuff for 2 months at most.

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Any idea when this patch is supposed to take place? I may have missed it but I don't recall seeing anywhere when it is supposed to go in effect.

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Monday.

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Originally Posted by Sojiro

Any idea when this patch is supposed to take place? I may have missed it but I don't recall seeing anywhere when it is supposed to go in effect.

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On the 28th, from 2-4 pm PDT. Details can be found here! :)

Targetting system was good except that you can accidently chnage the mode, only if they made it so it would lock in place.
like using autorun + up/down to change mode.

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Originally Posted by Benjaman

If this is the level of "change" that is going to be brought to this game with every patch, then I am giving up all hope right now. Let's see what they have done in the 5 months since release: changed targeting system, fixed marketing system (best change), made mobs bigger, changed way we get SP, added sidequests. All of the fundamental problems of the game are still in place (poorly designed UI/battle system/animations/delay times etc.). I am seriously worried now.

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I agree with you. Waiting for patch 1.17 to see if this time it will be a real patch with real changes, not hot fixes or tweaks.

I hope we only see those small, insignificant patches only because they are hard at work working on some amazing ground breaking update with stuff that will turn the game around. But i'm keeping my expectation low cuz SE has been disappointing me quite often lately.....

They said they been putting most thier focus on the major battle system update, which they said would be in a large patch since small additions would not be possible.

But next patch is suppost to be "Grand Companys" so lets hope they are in fact grand.

yay!!! less complicated target ftw ^^
sp on mobs though >.> umm fatigue ftw???
but hey options for the win^^
and quest removal ftw (wiah it was in ffxi)

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Originally Posted by JakeRoon

It has nothing to do with "learning new things" [subterfuge insult FTW!] it had to do with the fact they removed the up/down party list quick targeting. Prior to patch the up/down was party members....left/right was all targets. This made healing while casting offensive magic very easy. Post patch, you had to constantly change targeting modes back and fourth from "party" to "enemy"[or whatever] or leave it on "all" BUT pressing up/down changed targeting mode not select party members anymore....

in short it was a nightmare for a lot of healers, thank heavens they fixed it, while leaving in the option for the way you guys like it too. OPTIONS ftw!

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You do realize you can STILL select heals in Enemy targeting, and it only cycles through your party right? So I'm not understanding the problem here. I have no trouble

I see Enemy targeting more of like "Combat mode"

they are going to fix UI and battle its going to be 2 mnths of changes. And companies are coming before 1.17. Least that was what we got told.

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Originally Posted by Sine

Thank god. The last change to targeting was, imo, the worst change they've ever made.

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QFT

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Nice to know SE doesn't give a shit about Emulate being more broken then anything else in this game lol. Maybe a ninja nerf? Probably not ;\

Oh well, might as well abuse Emulate while I still can D;

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Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus

they are going to fix UI and battle its going to be 2 mnths of changes. And companies are coming before 1.17. Least that was what we got told.

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Wait, what??!

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Originally Posted by Xeno

Wait, what??!

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The poster on that is confused yoshi said its coming with 1.17

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Originally Posted by Speeral

The poster on that is confused yoshi said its coming with 1.17

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What? I never heard it was coming with 1.17

I wasn't really surprised with the amount of stuff in the patch, it says 1.16a after all. I just figured the lettered patches to be hotfixes and other adjustments based on what the major patches did. I'm curious to see what's gonna be in 1.17 though, should be interesting.. hopefully. (Please SE? ^_^; )

I'm happy with it. Targeting became very difficult. :\ Every time I would go to target myself I'd mess everything up and be unable to attack.. in the meantime monsters are hitting me. >.<;

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Originally Posted by Speeral

The poster on that is confused yoshi said its coming with 1.17

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He said that they were planning on releasing info. on them before 1.17 hit, not that they would be a part of 1.17 (which they could be, but we don't know that). But with the events in Japan, he decided to release the info. on them sooner, and would do so "shortly." I'm guessing we'll hear about them around when 1.16a hits in a few days.

I'd imagine they will be adding more than just whats in those notes

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Originally Posted by JakeRoon

it sucked for healers, we liked the old one...now we have both.....problem solved ^^

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Are you kidding, as a healer even set on Enemy you'll only target your allies when selecting heal/buffs

what's the problem?