FXIV Fan Fest 2023 Las Vegas Tickets

Im curious how many have actually receive the email, according to this article all have been sent out

https://twitter.com/JessScharnagle/s...44825730842624

there is also this pool on twitter and the numbers aren't looking good

https://twitter.com/JessScharnagle/s...23045544951809

Firstly congratulations to those who got codes to buy tickets I hope you have a fantastic time at fanfest and be it first or you third one I hope it is fun. Those who didn't get in, good luck in the general sales and ultimately it does suck for anyone who didn't get in and had high hopes of meeting fc mates or planned vacation etc.

The problem with that sample size it is not indicative of an absolute sample size of people who applied and far too prone to error to interpret anything too meaningful e.g. troll voting, people voting who couldn't even apply in USA area, we don't know how many people actually applied or those that even have twitter etc. The only thing we do know is that apparently there were 15k tickets available so potentially 7,500 lucky people with emails with to buy two tickets and that was based on a screenshot from showclix that has been floating around. So the approximate poll i would personally take with a pinch of salt, there are a certain amount of tickets that have been pooled and so many people will get to attend, working out the variables doesn't change any real outcome for me.

The preamble of the email did say that lucky winner emails would be sent out by a date (to me that is upto and including) and a tweet sent out when all emails are sent e.g. despite people not checking junk email etc. I think people are hoping they are being done in waves/batches etc. I have seen people upset about how they have played since 1.0 and subbed for ages, it felt like a fair lottery to me regardless of player type as I dont think anyone has more right than anyone else to attend personally. I just hope that bots were combated. This is about to happen for me and the EU lottery and if I win awesome, if not then I suppose I will save a few quid and buy some merch and watch online.

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Originally Posted by Soma_Farkreath

Im curious how many have actually receive the email, according to this article all have been sent out

https://twitter.com/JessScharnagle/s...44825730842624

there is also this pool on twitter and the numbers aren't looking good

https://twitter.com/JessScharnagle/s...23045544951809

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Twitter is not the only place that people congregate. A lot of people do but a Twitter poll is a smaller percentage than you think. There are plenty of people on Facebook, Insta, etc. that aren't on Twitter that won't have seen the poll. I did in fact get an email, though one of my friends said that I was the only one they knew personally who did. I was the only one out of the other two people I was hoping to go with that did, in fact, get the email.

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Originally Posted by PaulH

I have seen people upset about how they have played since 1.0 and subbed for ages, it felt like a fair lottery to me regardless of player type as I dont think anyone has more right than anyone else to attend personally.

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Same. Anyone trying to gatekeep because "well I've been playing since the ALPHA I'm better than all of you and I deserve to go MORE than the people who just started during Endwalker!!!!" are nasty people. I've seen plenty of that and it's absolutely ridiculous. I truly hope they have the day they're wishing on everyone else who got tickets over them. :)

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Originally Posted by Soma_Farkreath

Im curious how many have actually receive the email, according to this article all have been sent out

https://twitter.com/JessScharnagle/s...44825730842624

there is also this pool on twitter and the numbers aren't looking good

https://twitter.com/JessScharnagle/s...23045544951809

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I love someone's response to the second Tweet. Would be hilarious if the RNG lottery roller gave out 0s to people again.

As for the OP itself I sadly can't offer anything helpful since I'm not going to the Fanfests anywhere.

I can't say how accurate this actually is but from a discussion I've seen in a XIV Discord, there's around 15000 tickets for Fan Fest Las Vegas. It's highly likely that the majority, if not all tickets will sellout during the raffle stage. I somehow don't expect London to be any different either.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...7829589846.jpg

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Originally Posted by Johners

I can't say how accurate this actually is but from a discussion I've seen in a XIV Discord, there's around 15000 tickets for Fan Fest Las Vegas. It's highly likely that the majority, if not all tickets will sellout during the raffle stage. I somehow don't expect London to be any different either.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...7829589846.jpg

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That's a decent amount of tickets tbh, especially for a regional event. Almost certainly a slim percentage of the amount of people who want to go, but gotta be somewhat realistic about their capacity I suppose.

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Originally Posted by Iyrnthota

That's a decent amount of tickets tbh, especially for a regional event. Almost certainly a slim percentage of the amount of people who want to go, but gotta be somewhat realistic about their capacity I suppose.

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Yeah, it also doesn't help that the game has massively surged in popularity since the last in-person Fan Fests for Shadowbringers in 2018-19. Not to mention they actually have to plan enough activities and content to keep the audience entertained. Sure, they could probably get a much larger convention hall and sell 40,000 tickets but what exactly are they going to do to entertain all 40k people? It's an event for one game, not an entire publisher (see BlizzCon as an example) or an entire industry (E3, GamesCom etc).

I'd like to think that I'll get a ticket for Fan Fest London through either getting my own code or being someone's second ticket if they're raffled. Prayge.

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Originally Posted by Johners

Yeah, it also doesn't help that the game has massively surged in popularity since the last in-person Fan Fests for Shadowbringers in 2018-19. Not to mention they actually have to plan enough activities and content to keep the audience entertained. Sure, they could probably get a much larger convention hall and sell 40,000 tickets but what exactly are they going to do to entertain all 40k people? It's an event for one game, not an entire publisher (see BlizzCon as an example) or an entire industry (E3, GamesCom etc).

I'd like to think that I'll get a ticket for Fan Fest London through either getting my own code or being someone's second ticket if they're raffled. Prayge.

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Fingers crossed for you mate.

I contemplated giving it a go, but it clashes with a trip I'd already planned this year. Maybe next time.

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Originally Posted by Johners

I can't say how accurate this actually is but from a discussion I've seen in a XIV Discord, there's around 15000 tickets for Fan Fest Las Vegas. It's highly likely that the majority, if not all tickets will sellout during the raffle stage. I somehow don't expect London to be any different either.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...7829589846.jpg

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The LVCC can hold quite a bit of people (200k at least) but they're sharing the space that same weekend. Not sure if they have a larger space over SE and so they had to cap out Fanfest or not, which wouldn't be SE's fault if so, but some extra people to be able to go would have been good too. I'm a little salty in how they did this (for other reasons) but if it's not something they can control, I can understand that.

I do think there will be plenty that go into the general sales, however, because a there's been some "well my entire FC wanted to go but only 1-4 people got an email and we're a large FC" and similar comments on socials. I don't doubt some will let those drop and those tickets will go into general sales for those that didn't get an email. I only hope this time that the vendor won't screw up like they did in 2018 which will only make people angrier (I'm still pretty salty over how 2018's NA Fanfest was handled, and I know I'm not the only one) so they'll probably be watching those closely.

I'm super disappointed that I was not a winner, but I think the biggest let down for me (and all the others in this position) is that I was hoping to meet up with some FC people. Fortunately(?) none of us got picked for the lottery, but I was seeing that some FCs applied and one of many got selected, and the one isn't going to go if the others aren't.
So assuming all the tickets spaces were held by lotto winners, it is possible tickets are going to come up in general sales because FC people who were looking for a chance to meet up at Fanfest and won't be going because that isn't going to be able to happen.

If they do a lotto next FF they should
1)Allow for FC members to register together so either they all get tickets or they don't. I've seen conventions do group registrations so, it shouldn't be 'that' hard to pull off.
2) Send an email to all people who entered to tell them that A) you won or B) you didn't. I know this isn't how "normal" lottos works, but it would have been nice to have a clear answer

(there was a lot of questions on the twitter post b/c the emails were sent out yesterday instead of today. I know the wording says that players will be informed "by" the 3rd which means that it could be anytime before than as well)

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Originally Posted by Irishfae

I'm super disappointed that I was not a winner, but I think the biggest let down for me (and all the others in this position) is that I was hoping to meet up with some FC people. Fortunately(?) none of us got picked for the lottery, but I was seeing that some FCs applied and one of many got selected, and the one isn't going to go if the others aren't.
So assuming all the tickets spaces were held by lotto winners, it is possible tickets are going to come up in general sales because FC people who were looking for a chance to meet up at Fanfest and won't be going because that isn't going to be able to happen.

If they do a lotto next FF they should allow for FC members to register together so either they all get tickets or they don't. I've seen conventions do group registrations so, it shouldn't be 'that' hard to pull off.

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I prefer they kept it as equitable as possible and not subject to conditions of say FC membership as then you are allowing a group to have an advantage above individuals who may not even belong to an FC. There shouldn't be any conditions that allow groups or individuals to have an advantage over others that simply isn't fair. I am hoping that random is random and if so I am happy.

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Originally Posted by Irishfae

2) Send emails to confirm entry into lotto. (I don't think I got one, just you have been entered you can close the window now)

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They did send out confirmation emails:

https://i.imgur.com/dy6BWUJ.png

I received that after I put my info in for the lotto.

I think for the email situation for "did I win or not and why is it the 2nd and not the 3rd wtf" happening, it was because it was the 3rd... in Japan. That's the only true answer I can think of for that.

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Originally Posted by rainichan

They did send out confirmation emails:

https://i.imgur.com/dy6BWUJ.png

I received that after I put my info in for the lotto.

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Whoops, you are right. I have weird filters on my mail and official account stuff goes to a separate email. I will fix that.

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Originally Posted by PaulH

I prefer they kept it as equitable as possible and not subject to conditions of say FC membership as then you are allowing a group to have an advantage above individuals who may not even belong to an FC. There shouldn't be any conditions that allow groups or individuals to have an advantage over others that simply isn't fair. I am hoping that random is random and if so I am happy.

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While I don't disagree fully, by not taking FCs into consideration you will (probably) end up with a lot of orphan tickets, which just seems messy to me. I know we have huge FCs out there and that could really mess something up. But some level of "group" registration would be nice. So maybe not FC members specifically, but allow a point person to register up to a certain amount of players and they would win together. Put a cap on it (5 other names), but at least try to support players who are going to enjoy time with specific other players

I got the email yesterday!

I'm so excited!

:)

One question I do have is that if there is this much interest in the presale, why even have a general sale? It seems like instead of holding them back, they could have made them all available to those who were interested in the presale.

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Originally Posted by Irishfae

While I don't disagree fully, by not taking FCs into consideration you will (probably) end up with a lot of orphan tickets, which just seems messy to me. I know we have huge FCs out there and that could really mess something up. But some level of "group" registration would be nice. So maybe not FC members specifically, but allow a point person to register up to a certain amount of players and they would win together. Put a cap on it (5 other names), but at least try to support players who are going to enjoy time with specific other players

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I still think it is gatekeeping and unfair on individuals so I stick with a no thanks, no matter how you slice the cake people miss out and I would quite like FC level meetups myself but I wouldn't want anyone being disadvantaged. I suppose a way forward is for them to increase the number of fanfests being held or theme them somehow, so that demand and the types of events people want are satisfied somehow.

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Originally Posted by PaulH

I still think it is gatekeeping and unfair on individuals so I stick with a no thanks, no matter how you slice the cake people miss out and I would quite like FC level meetups myself but I wouldn't want anyone being disadvantaged. I suppose a way forward is for them to increase the number of fanfests being held or theme them somehow, so that demand and the types of events people want are satisfied somehow.

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I think they'd really struggle to satisfy the demand. There are far more players interested than they could reasonable put on events for I'd reckon.

I will say, it's not a complete deal breaker for meetups if not everyone gets a ticket.
Treat it like a holiday and go spend a long weekend in Vegas or London.

There will be a small number of tickets available on overflow from the sheer fact that some people put in their names for the lottery, with the intent to sell them to FC members, only to discover they cannot be resold in that manner.

For us east coasters, Otakon is happening the same weekend, and I would suggest maybe we try to organize a XIV meet up there.

https://www.otakon.com/

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Originally Posted by Catwho

There will be a small number of tickets available on overflow from the sheer fact that some people put in their names for the lottery, with the intent to sell them to FC members, only to discover they cannot be resold in that manner.

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Maybe not resell exactly but everyone who got invited is entitled to a +1 they can buy for, so I'm sure people would be more than interested in buying any available +1 spots that people would be willing to offer (we did that at previous fanfests too), a lot of groups would like to fill-in gaps for their friends (myself included, hit me up if you have a +1 available you're not buying)

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Originally Posted by Catwho

There will be a small number of tickets available on overflow from the sheer fact that some people put in their names for the lottery, with the intent to sell them to FC members, only to discover they cannot be resold in that manner.

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Why doesn't that work? I haven't dug into the details of the ticket policies or anything, but if a lotto winner can buy two tickets what's stopping them from giving the second (or even both) to a friend?

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Originally Posted by Brightamethyst

Why doesn't that work? I haven't dug into the details of the ticket policies or anything, but if a lotto winner can buy two tickets what's stopping them from giving the second (or even both) to a friend?

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I think they mean they had no intention of acquiring any of the tickets they entered for themselves, and only to give to others.



The original account owner is required to present ID to pick up both tickets.

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Originally Posted by Menriq

One question I do have is that if there is this much interest in the presale, why even have a general sale? It seems like instead of holding them back, they could have made them all available to those who were interested in the presale.

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They aren't holding any tickets back for general sale. The only tickets that will be available for general sale will be those that didn't get sold to lottery winners - which will be very few if any in all likelihood.

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Originally Posted by BristolRuss

They aren't holding any tickets back for general sale. The only tickets that will be available for general sale will be those that didn't get sold to lottery winners - which will be very few if any in all likelihood.

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I might not have been clear, so let me try again. Using generic numbers here. Let's say there are 10,000 tickets available. 5000 winners were selected (since they can each potentially buy 2, that would be the cap of 10,0000). Let's say of those, 7200 tickets are bought, leaving 2800 leftover. Instead of having a general sale, why not choose new winners from the lottery for the remaining tickets instead of just opening them up to the general sale?

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

The original account owner is required to present ID to pick up both tickets.

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Ah. That makes sense.

I really hope we get clarification on this from SE. Is that 15k number wrong, or is it just talking about the number of pre-sale tickets, maybe? Even if we take ongoing Covid precautions or whatever into account 15k is an absurdly low number for a venue that size. If 15k was really the plan why have it in a massive Vegas convention center at all? Something just feels off about this.

I have never in the history of Fanfest received any of the Fanfest emails.

Congratulations to everyone who got their tickets for Fan Fest! Hope you will have a great time!
For those who weren't so lucky, I hope you have better luck next time! And enjoy the stream from the comfiness of your home!

I got my email! Any suggestions on hotels? Wynn and Renaissance seem pricey, was looking at the Venetian since it's $100 less per night but not sure how easy it will be to get to the convention center.

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Originally Posted by Brightamethyst

Ah. That makes sense.

I really hope we get clarification on this from SE. Is that 15k number wrong, or is it just talking about the number of pre-sale tickets, maybe? Even if we take ongoing Covid precautions or whatever into account 15k is an absurdly low number for a venue that size. If 15k was really the plan why have it in a massive Vegas convention center at all? Something just feels off about this.

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They haven't booked the entire convention center. The FanFest will only be using part of it.

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Originally Posted by Ayaime

I got my email! Any suggestions on hotels? Wynn and Renaissance seem pricey, was looking at the Venetian since it's $100 less per night but not sure how easy it will be to get to the convention center.

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There's a transit system that runs through much of downtown Las Vegas. If you go to Las Vegas Convention and Visitor's Authority website ( https://www.lvcva.com/ ) you can get maps and information about where the Convention Center is in relationship to some of the hotels and the transportation options.

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Originally Posted by Ayaime

I got my email! Any suggestions on hotels? Wynn and Renaissance seem pricey, was looking at the Venetian since it's $100 less per night but not sure how easy it will be to get to the convention center.

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Last time I was in Vegas I stayed at Palace Station, cost was pretty reasonable compared to other options and it's not too far from the convention center. There is also a Hampton Inn right next to the convention center too and the prices don't look bad there either for the time frame.

That being said, the Venetian is an absolutely gorgeous hotel and the next time I go to Vegas I am probably going to stay there for a night or two just for the experience.

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Originally Posted by Brightamethyst

I really hope we get clarification on this from SE. Is that 15k number wrong, or is it just talking about the number of pre-sale tickets, maybe? Even if we take ongoing Covid precautions or whatever into account 15k is an absurdly low number for a venue that size. If 15k was really the plan why have it in a massive Vegas convention center at all? Something just feels off about this.

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Another convention is happening at the LVCC the same weekend so they're sharing the space. No idea how big the other is, or if that had any bearing on how many people could attend Fanfest (it could have, who knows). The casino rooms are much smaller and hold less, so if 15k is accurate, it's already nearly double the amount of the previous in-person Fanfest which was 8-9k people, and it's much larger than the first which was like ~4-5k people.

Don't get me wrong, another 5k people to make it 20k would have been great, but I can only have some salt for that if they were capped off by a bigger convention taking more people for safety reasons.

wait wait wait...so... is this housing lottery irl?

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Originally Posted by rainichan

if 15k is accurate, it's already nearly double the amount of the previous in-person Fanfest which was 8-9k people

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Were previous Fanfests really that small? I've never gone to one, but all this time I've been picturing them as more like 20k+ person events.

If they're really that small why even have them at massive convention centers in the first place? Why not smaller, cheaper venues?

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Originally Posted by Brightamethyst

Were previous Fanfests really that small? I've never gone to one, but all this time I've been picturing them as more like 20k+ person events.

If they're really that small why even have them at massive convention centers in the first place? Why not smaller, cheaper venues?

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They were, yes. The first in 2014 was like, 3-5k people, 2016 was 5-7k, 2018 was 8-9k. 2018 was around the same time that demand to go started growing exponentially (and it didn't help that ticket sales were crap that year, lot more angry people over 2018 than this year) so the shift to a larger venue to hold almost double 2018's numbers was going to happen eventually. The 2020 one that was cancelled due to covid was supposed to be at the SDCC where they have Comic Con, which is about the same size as the LVCC. The previous Fanfests were held in the casino convention halls which hold much less than an actual convention center - 2014 and 2018 happened at the Rio, and 2016 happened at the Paris. There was an issue with 2016 with doors being blocked to the point where the fire marshal came out to yell at everyone about it (LineCon for merch was not fun, would not recommend lol) but the room was packed full even then.

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Originally Posted by keichirou

wait wait wait...so... is this housing lottery irl?

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*points a gun at the pizza emote*
It always was...

I didn't even bother with it. The price is too outrageously high before you even figure in the lottery garbage.