Texture Pack

Would it be possible for SE to just make a texture pack for everybody who wants it down the road?

Im fine with the sacrifice being made for 2.0 because it looks beautiful, but eventually (maybe with dx11) would this be possible?

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It is time to bring this back from the dead..

SS and a gameplay presentation has been released. It is NOT gamebreaking, graphics do not make or break a game, but there are people who want to put their systems to good use and make everything as beautiful as can be.

Yes, this goes for the grass as well.

Please give us an optional texture pack at some point down the road, it doesn't have to be right away (though that would be nice ).

u should wait to see the final result before asking for that, those screenshots are taken before the alpha version .-.

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Originally Posted by Xquiel

u should wait to see the final result before asking for that, those screenshots are taken before the alpha version .-.

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Im aware of that, but its not likely to change THAT much.

/signedwithmorethan10chars

May want to back up the old pre 2.0 dat files just in case.

Uhh yeah, how about we wait and see what the final thing is actually going to look like first on max settings, before asking for stuff like this.

Jumping the gun a bit bud. We don't know IF the textures are sacrificed really, it's educated speculation maybe, but it's still speculation. That said nothing stops them from a texture ora texture upgrade down the line.

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Originally Posted by Cendres

Jumping the gun a bit bud. We don't know IF the textures are sacrificed really, it's educated speculation maybe, but it's still speculation. That said nothing stops them from a texture ora texture upgrade down the line.

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No harm in getting this out there early.

I am 99% positive we'll be losing out on some of the quality, due to making it more friendly with consoles and the dynamic lighting. Its basically just a sacrifice that has to be made.

Im not saying I dont think that 2.0 looks great, it does. Theres just graphic whores like me who would love this option. Eventually the graphics will look a bit outdated anyways, this would also keep that from happening sooner.

Seriously! I totally support this, because a game is only fun if it has good texturing!

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Originally Posted by KiriA500

Seriously! I totally support this, because a game is only fun if it has good texturing!

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People like you make asking for possible texture upgrades in the future a bad image. Graphics aren't what makes the game fun, it just adds another level of immersion for others who care.

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Originally Posted by KiriA500

Seriously! I totally support this, because a game is only fun if it has good texturing!

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Maybe you should start a separate petition for a texture downgrade pack??

Eventually I would love to see a HQ texture pack for the game but chances are we might need to turn to the community for that eventually.

If the game gets popular enough I'm sure the .dat moders will be in full force as they were in XI...hell I did a few .dats back in my day.

Know what i'd love to see for XIV? An ENB mod for it.

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Originally Posted by Madrox

People like you make asking for possible texture upgrades in the future a bad image. Graphics aren't what makes the game fun, it just adds another level of immersion for others who care.

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I'm aware graphics don't make the game fun. Neither do textures.

If all it takes for you to get immersed into a game is an updated floor texture, then I envy you. Usually it takes more than an image file for me.

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Originally Posted by KiriA500

I'm aware graphics don't make the game fun. Neither do textures.

If all it takes for you to get immersed into a game is an updated floor texture, then I envy you. Usually it takes more than an image file for me.

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Ignorant statement.

Where did I ever say that I required it for immersion.

The ignorance and stupidity from the occasional person in these forums is ridiculous sometimes.
Lol. It should be expected I suppose coming back to the forums after so long :p

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Originally Posted by Jynx

Eventually I would love to see a HQ texture pack for the game but chances are we might need to turn to the community for that eventually.

If the game gets popular enough I'm sure the .dat moders will be in full force as they were in XI...hell I did a few .dats back in my day.

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That would be good if it came down to it, maybe I could give it a shot one day if it came down to it.

These threads always turn out the same way.

OP: "Hey, what about the option to download higher-res textures down the road?"
Replies: "ARE YOU SAYING YOU CAN'T ENJOY THE GAME AS-IS WITHOUT BETTER TEXTURES ARRRGGGHHH YOU HATE THE GAME GO AWAY"
OP: "Uhh...no, but all else being equal, having the option for better graphics if your computer can handle it is a nice bonus."
Replies: "WHARRGARBL GO AWAY GRAPHICS DON'T MAKE THE GAME FUN"

Even though I think it's unlikely to ever happen, it'd be cool to see this kind of thing happen a few years down the road when the game starts to look dated.

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Originally Posted by Keres

These threads always turn out the same way.

OP: "Hey, what about the option to download higher-res textures down the road?"
Replies: "ARE YOU SAYING YOU CAN'T ENJOY THE GAME AS-IS WITHOUT BETTER TEXTURES ARRRGGGHHH YOU HATE THE GAME GO AWAY"
OP: "Uhh...no, but all else being equal, having the option for better graphics if your computer can handle it is a nice bonus."
Replies: "WHARRGARBL GO AWAY GRAPHICS DON'T MAKE THE GAME FUN"

Even though I think it's unlikely to ever happen, it'd be cool to see this kind of thing happen a few years down the road when the game starts to look dated.

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Lol! I should've known better.
I was thinking that since it is possible we may be getting dx11 in the future, maybe the textures could happen as well.

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Originally Posted by Gramul

May want to back up the old pre 2.0 dat files just in case.

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This game has the most fragmented file system I have seen in a PC game, besides FF11, I doubt the existing files will work in the new engine.

Maybe we will get HD textures with the first expansion, can only hope.

Youre assuming the textures will be a lower resolution than they are now. If they are using the same texture files that we have now, it wouldnt make sense for them to just delete them all, and then have us download lower quality textures.

More likely the game will be using less intensive lighting effects, rather than lowering texture resolutions. There isnt a doubt in my mind that the PS3 version will be using lower resolution textures (on at least things that arent characters), but there is absolutely no reason to scrap the countless textures we are already using, and then have us redownload lower quality ones all over again (costing them bandwith/money), just because the PS3 doesnt have enough memory, or a good enough GPU to use those textures.

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Originally Posted by Madrox

Ignorant statement.

Where did I ever say that I required it for immersion.

The ignorance and stupidity from the occasional person in these forums is ridiculous sometimes.
Lol. It should be expected I suppose coming back to the forums after so long :p

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FF14 already has a lot of high res textures that are perfectly fine to reuse. I would dare to suggest that the dev team tries to be as efficient as they can be at developing v2, and I think reusing textures that are already good is the sensible thing to do.

Even if the texture files couldn't be used exactly as they are stored in the current client, the developers should still have the files they used while they made all the textures, so it shouldn't be hard to just load up the old working files and convert these to whatever format the new client will be using and GOD DAMN KIRIA500 YOUR SIGNATURE HAS BEEN CONSTNATLY DISTRACTING ME WHILE TYPING ALL THIS ARHGJGHDFJSKF

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Originally Posted by Jinko

This game has the most fragmented file system I have seen in a PC game, besides FF11, I doubt the existing files will work in the new engine.

Maybe we will get HD textures with the first expansion, can only hope.

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....Wait are you saying the textures now and upon release won't be HD? lol, every video of XIV I made as of 1.x has always come out to 1080p HD....

Also, the file system isn't fragmented, it's not packed which allows for not only easier editing if you must (i.e changing armor designs just for your eyes etc) it's done in a way that if the game has an errornous file it won't crash the entire game but just x error. With games that uses pack files like Unreal games, if a pack errors, the whole game is kaput so it still takes the same file space if not less than some games with pack files.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

....Wait are you saying the textures now and upon release won't be HD? lol, every video of XIV I made as of 1.x has always come out to 1080p HD....

Also, the file system isn't fragmented, it's not packed which allows for not only easier editing if you must (i.e changing armor designs just for your eyes etc) it's done in a way that if the game has an errornous file it won't crash the entire game but just x error. With games that uses pack files like Unreal games, if a pack errors, the whole game is kaput so it still takes the same file space if not less than some games with pack files.

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I think he's using "HD" as a general term, not just about the resolution the game runs at. While HD resolutions are 720p and all that stuff, I'm sure you would agree that the textures of for example Unreal Tournament 1 from 1999 doesn't have textures worthy of being called "high definition", even if the game easily runs in 1920x1080.

The interviews so far all say that they are only about 15% done with tweaking the engine parameters, so they still have 85% to go. YoshiP also said the settings were not set on maximum because he wants to show the game as it would run on a mid-end system (=what most people have).

It is too early to say anything about the graphics/texture quality, we'll have to wait till they show us more material, especially videos.

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Originally Posted by Madrox

Would it be possible for SE to just make a texture pack for everybody who wants it down the road?

Im fine with the sacrifice being made for 2.0 because it looks beautiful, but eventually (maybe with dx11) would this be possible?

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It is time to bring this back from the dead..

SS and a gameplay presentation has been released. It is NOT gamebreaking, graphics do not make or break a game, but there are people who want to put their systems to good use and make everything as beautiful as can be.

Yes, this goes for the grass as well.

Please give us an optional texture pack at some point down the road, it doesn't have to be right away (though that would be nice ).

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Edited the OP

Please don't make reasonable requests OP! People need someone to flame

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Originally Posted by bobbygunz

Please don't make reasonable requests OP! People need someone to flame

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People can flame all they want lol.
It is a legitimate request.

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Originally Posted by Madrox

Would it be possible for SE to just make a texture pack for everybody who wants it down the road?

Im fine with the sacrifice being made for 2.0 because it looks beautiful, but eventually (maybe with dx11) would this be possible?

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It is time to bring this back from the dead..

SS and a gameplay presentation has been released. It is NOT gamebreaking, graphics do not make or break a game, but there are people who want to put their systems to good use and make everything as beautiful as can be.

Yes, this goes for the grass as well.

Please give us an optional texture pack at some point down the road, it doesn't have to be right away (though that would be nice ).

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An optional texture pack that does what? What is the problem with the textures?

It's not resonable in an MMO. They will ahve the textures they deem fit for resolutions and not add more later to require more file checking each update to verify files.

Im sure the scalign is already in place, but the standard version is being shown.

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Originally Posted by kazaran

It's not resonable in an MMO. They will ahve the textures they deem fit for resolutions and not add more later to require more file checking each update to verify files.

Im sure the scalign is already in place, but the standard version is being shown.

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How would it not be reasonable? This is something that has been done before.

Asking for a texture pack without even seeing what the game looks like running at full spec is insane. At least wait until some videos/screenshots come out where they've cranked the power to 11.

Honestly people...

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Originally Posted by LlenCoram

Asking for a texture pack without even seeing what the game looks like running at full spec is insane. At least wait until some videos/screenshots come out where they've cranked the power to 11.

Honestly people...

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If you knew anything about textures you would know they could only get so much better.

Honestly people...

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Originally Posted by LlenCoram

Asking for a texture pack without even seeing what the game looks like running at full spec is insane. At least wait until some videos/screenshots come out where they've cranked the power to 11.

Honestly people...

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This. A lot of people seem to assume the demonstrations are the highest quality the game can be run at. Just think about that. Why would the devs throw away the better graphics to make the lower quality graphics when they can simply tone down all of the complicated stuff. It's like taking a car with a bunch of upgrades, spoilers, bells and whistles, saying that it's too gaudy and sending it to the dump and buying a new basic car when you can simply take all of that crap off.

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Originally Posted by MrKupo

This. A lot of people seem to assume the demonstrations are the highest quality the game can be run at. Just think about that. Why would the devs throw away the better graphics to make the lower quality graphics when they can simply tone down all of the complicated stuff. It's like taking a car with a bunch of upgrades, spoilers, bells and whistles, saying that it's too gaudy and sending it to the dump and buying a new basic car when you can simply take all of that crap off.

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they cut their losses - one explanation.

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Originally Posted by MrKupo

This. A lot of people seem to assume the demonstrations are the highest quality the game can be run at. Just think about that. Why would the devs throw away the better graphics to make the lower quality graphics when they can simply tone down all of the complicated stuff. It's like taking a car with a bunch of upgrades, spoilers, bells and whistles, saying that it's too gaudy and sending it to the dump and buying a new basic car when you can simply take all of that crap off.

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I think most understand that what we've seen is fairly low in quality. People just need something to bitch about. That doesnt change the fact though that thetestures are not going to get much better with some things. There had to be a downgrade of some sort to ease the performance onto ps3, that is just common sense. How much we dont know yet though.