I recently moved to Dynamis due to the housing crisis. Prior to joining Dynamis I would join Frontline daily for the EXP boost and to work on my PVP rewards. Previously only taking 5 to 10 minutes to join.
However, since moving I have been met hours of waiting and only once have successfully joined a FL. I understand Dynamis is a new DataCenter and it may be some time before players routinely join PVP. I'm also okay if players on the server do not want to play PVP or waiting 1-2 hours for a queue. What I'm not okay with is the 30m cap on wait time estimates:
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30 minutes is not enough. Especially for newer data centers. I'm sure there are many players on Dynamis, and other data centers, that enjoy PVP or other content that isn't as popular. However, many players when faced with a "More than 30m" queue will not bother since there is no way to gauge if anyone else is even queuing with you.
Is there anyway for SE to increase the cap or, even better, provide an estimate of how many players are in queue - similar to other Daily Roulettes? Just having a way to know if others are in queue with you by either increasing the cap or providing a number of players in queue with you would significantly improve participation in less popular content.
Until the situation is resolved, I have no other option than to use Data Center Transfer to join a daily PVP roulette. A feature that was never intended for heavy use. I'm sure one day FFXIV will lose players as the game ages out. Why wait until then when it can benefit players now?
30 Minutes Is Not Enough
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11-11-2022, 11:30 PMNyome30 Minutes Is Not Enough
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11-11-2022, 11:58 PMGemina
Cap on average wait time isn't the issue I see. The issue I see is the number to the left of it.
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11-12-2022, 12:07 AMJessica_VS
Having cross-data-center queues would resolve these sorts of issues entirely, but who knows when/if that will ever happen.
In the meantime, the only options we have are visit other data centers to queue there, or wait for an eternity. -
11-12-2022, 12:14 AMcaffe_macchiato
FFXIV really needs to have cross-DC parties and queues. There’s simply no excuse. They destroyed queues in smaller data centers by encouraging everyone to transfer to play, making queues even worse until they’re dead. And it’s not just Dynamis. Party Finder on Crystal is almost entirely devoid of high-end content, while Aether has more listed parties than Crystal and Primal combined. In Japan, the Mana datacenter has 10x the amount of listed parties as every other DC in the region.
Either they need to converge datacenters entirely like every other major online game, or they need to take down DC travel until they do so. I know that FFXIV is an aging game owned by a small company in financial duress, but come on. Even WoW doesn’t have this problem and it’s 18 years old. -
11-12-2022, 12:16 AMXaruko_Nexume
Surprised this game doesn't have cross DC grouping yet. At least for those on the same continent.
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11-12-2022, 12:19 AMNekoMataMataThis is really, really necessary at this point. It makes me wonder if DC travel is harming Dynamis more than it's helping with how things are currently.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jessica_VS
I've done what I can to help activity on my DC, but I worry that the DC itself may simply become a hub for housing and other activities that can't be done off DC, while roulettes, duties in general and shopping is done while travelling to other DCs. -
11-12-2022, 01:16 AMCatwhoIf someone was part of any kind of organized activity, such as a raid static or a more casual group that gets together to run content, they're likely still returning to their old data center to hang out with friends.Quote:
Originally Posted by NekoMataMata
The last time a new data center was added in North America, they moved existing worlds onto it instead of just adding new ones.
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11-12-2022, 01:34 AMNekoMataMataThat's understandable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Catwho
One thing that has been bothering me though is stuff like the road to 80 buff. Apparently you can visit other servers/DCs and it stays active, which is weird to me. Shouldn't it remain on the server to promote people staying there and using it there?
It'd also help if maybe we gave roulettes on new servers/DCs a bonus too. -
11-12-2022, 01:37 AMLianaThorne
Yes, most came to Dynamis for housing. Yes, people have lives that exist outside of Dynamis still such as friends, statics, rp jobs, etc. There's also just the reality that pvp is not that popular and the DCs that can get quick queues with it are already established. If the point is to just get your daily Frontline over and done with, I don't see an issue with going cross-DC for it. Otherwise just have to wait for official runs to be announced.
- Someone who enjoys pvp but has better things to do than wait in a queue for it for that long
Also, the only queues I've noticed struggling is expert (because a lot of the alts here are still getting through MSQ) and Aglaia (probably for the same reason as above). -
11-12-2022, 02:07 AMAnienaiThat's what I told him..Quote:
Originally Posted by Nyome
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11-12-2022, 02:55 AMIllmaeranI'll never forget it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anienai
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11-12-2022, 03:12 AMAvoidy
Yeah I see a lot of Dynamis Travelers over here for purchasing market goods and getting their queues done in a timely manner. It's almost like most of the dynamis population just went there for an easy house but didn't actually care to play the game on that datacenter or something.
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11-12-2022, 03:25 AMAtelier-BagurOr it could be oh I dont know....Quote:
Originally Posted by Avoidy
Still a relatively new server that came out a week ago? -
11-12-2022, 03:54 AMDeverynI think people are used to blowing through new content in a week. Somehow that's supposed to translate into a population boom on new worlds that came up during a slow time of year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur
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11-12-2022, 04:40 AMcaffe_macchiatoParty finder in Dynamis is usually empty. Not “quiet”, not “a few parties”. Nothing. Zero parties.Quote:
Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur
If you’re correct, then we’ll see in a month’s time and I’ll come back to your post. However, that still does not remove the need for cross-DC parties. Once they eventually do add the feature—and they will—will you advocate for the feature to be removed, deeming it unnecessary? -
11-12-2022, 05:41 AMKacho_NachoIt never is.Quote:
30 Minutes Is Not Enough
Anyways, to touch on cross-data-center queues, it's not something you'd want. It ultimately destroys the sense of community you share with others on the same data center. Just allow time for Dynamis to fill with more players and the issue with long queues will resolve itself. -
11-12-2022, 05:41 AMDeverynLate August was the original target date for the Dynamis launch, which would've put it right up against patch 6.2. Things would have started off much better if it happened at the start of a major patch. Here we are in November with the holidays approaching. I think as we get closer to 6.3 we'll start to see people coming back and maybe even shift over there.Quote:
Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato
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11-12-2022, 06:27 AMRobynDaBankSo... is this implying that DC Travel is actually bad for a new DC in the long term? Kind of makes me look at Materia which is in the exact opposite position ATM. I read all the posts asking for cross-region so that it can flourish... but the reality is that aside from buying up the houses, there's not as much incentive to move away from a long-standing DC to a new one.Quote:
Originally Posted by NekoMataMata
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11-12-2022, 06:32 AMBsrking5
Naw, I think it's too much. Should only go up to 10 minutes. And in place of 10+ minutes it should just say, "try party finder" or maybe "are you sure?" or "nobody wants to do this"
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11-12-2022, 07:13 AMNekoMataMataHard to compare us to Materia when Materia is the only Oceanic DC. Not to mention we're a NA DC, perhaps the group you'd expect the most from outside of the Japanese.Quote:
Originally Posted by RobynDaBank
Materia is on its own and has issues with getting people to move over.
I guess this leads up to another question. Is the FFXIV userbase a bit stale? That would explain the difficulty in getting people to move over. People are tied down, set in their ways. -
11-12-2022, 07:30 AMDeverynI think that's typical of any group, not just XIV players. Again, we're late in a patch cycle. A lot of accounts are dormant. I think things will pick up by the end of the year.Quote:
Originally Posted by NekoMataMata
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11-12-2022, 07:42 AMKyrj
I mean it's Dynamis. Most people joined so they could make Thancred or Y'shotla alt number 2348327469.
Now if there was a queue for standing in Uldah to wring your hands it'd be damn near instant. -
11-12-2022, 07:44 AMShibi
Only 752 minutes in the queue? heh. Lightweight.
Come to Materia and try! :D
Edit: On topic though, the limit "More than 30 minutes" is a self fulfilling prophecy though. If it extended to "More than 10 hours" people would see that and just drop. At least having "More than 30" some, maybe a full game, will try. So, I don't think they can change it without killing the games off completely. -
11-12-2022, 08:29 AMBukachuQuote:
Originally Posted by Nyome
Idk usually 2-3 minutes is enough for me ;) -
11-12-2022, 11:24 AMcaffe_macchiato
Dynamis at primetime on a Friday night. Cross-DC parties would be a good thing. (In comparison, Crystal usually has a whopping ten parties at this hour for high-end content)
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