Yoshi P & other dev comments & statements

They made a lot of these over the years on why X reason can or cannot happen or it still being planned for the future.

Or why X reason was added or removed.

I noticed sometime we get users here that are not aware of those comments (including myself), should there be a pinned topic to archive all this or is there a site that has compiled all of these?

Honestly a lot of these statements don't mean much.

We were never supposed to get more glamour dresser space, but it eventually got doubled.

We we never supposed to get more glam set slots, we got them.

Stuff that was said years ago can change tomorrow.

Stuff they say usually changed later on and come off as empty words. Sometimes they even lie. Something something Atma grinds, PLD will never block magic, we will definitely fix Parry, we listen to our players and definitely won't prune the wrong skills etc.

Yoshi-P actually does that many interviews that a list of them would span taller than mount everest and probably greater than the distance between the sun and pluto.

In the media tour he did them all day long and he did them for a few days running, all day, when he attended gamescom and similar events. Some of them are in japanese. He does them without these events through the year as well. Many of his comments are from the 72 live letters which involve him speaking for hours, 14-hour broadcasts, random live streams he has done such as patch note reading or doing savage or information released on the lodestone.

He does a lot of interviews. If there is any question you have, the chances are, he has answered it before sometime in the last 10 years. And that is why when almost any question gets asked here I can recall an answer he gave on the subject.

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Originally Posted by MagiusNecros

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what people forget is that Yoshi P is not their friend. He doesn't even know the players as it's impossible. He might be the cutest, kindest, and whatever it is that makes it seem like he's a friend, but in the end, he's an employee of a company, and companies lie.

Yoshi P has said many things, and many of them have proven false over time.

I don't know what this is about lying. I've not seen anything in the interviews that turned out to be a lie. Usually he tells us things that he is working on and then we see it within the following 3 years of that interview. He teased data center travel vaguely (and we got it) and he teased the captain rank vaguely (and we got it). The arguments about glamour dresser space were most likely explaining that it was difficult to increase storage space and that it can't be done without adding some more storage to the data center. There have been a number of hardware maintenance since every interview that this has been discussed so that the dresser space could be increased. Sometimes he says things that he believes at the time and changes his mind based on the feedback, such as displaying the powerful mark message.

These interviews are also subject to translation errors or can be misinterpreted.

The whole storage thing I find pretty laughable if players can create a bunch of FCs, rank up to max and get 50 storage slots per tab. Up to 5 now I think for 250 slots per FC.

If players on average made a boatload of small private FCs you suddenly have a ridiculous amount of storage space.

So the whole glamour dresser limitation thing falls flat on it's face.

When it comes to lying it very much is about bullshit and promises over the game's life.

Part of it is not so much lying but the situation changes. Years ago Yoshi P claimed Blue Mage just couldn't happen in XIV and yet here we are.

Other early example is that there were no plans to make Female Roegadyn...that happened due to community backlash. Which happened again with Viera. And now Hrothgar.

I still think the best thing was him stalling over the whole fix parry over the entirety of 3.0 just for him to go lol removed it after a whole year.

And don't get me started on the housing lottery system. If it's a lottery you shouldn't even have to pay gil for it since the chance of winning is so low. It's just a bad system.

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That said the game is not terrible and is quite good so I think that the community should criticize the dev team where it's due such as job balance and the AWFUL treatment of Hrothgar BUT I also think the community shouldn't go out of their way to bring out pitchforks and have a blood feud either.

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Originally Posted by MagiusNecros

I still think the best thing was him stalling over the whole fix parry over the entirety of 3.0 just for him to go lol removed it after a whole year.

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If there is one thing I've learned, it's that in order to make major changes to stats or jobs, they feel they have to wait until the next expansion.

Cross-class skills were always strange, but they didn't remove them until 4.0. Bowmage was a disaster, but they didn't fix it until 4.0. MCH needed to change to be as good as BRD, but it didn't until 5.0.

Waiting 2 years to fix a problem feels like they are "stalling" but development is a slow process and over the years I have slowly understood this better.

Cross-class was a poor man's version of taking a sub job in other FF games which only works if you have a job system that interacts with each other which it doesn't here. It could but it just doesn't.

I think the more critical members of the playerbase might be more understanding if they were honest about why they change things. Especially in their patch notes.

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Originally Posted by SillyCrow

Honestly a lot of these statements don't mean much.

We were never supposed to get more glamour dresser space, but it eventually got doubled.

We we never supposed to get more glam set slots, we got them.

Stuff that was said years ago can change tomorrow.

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Hopefully their next decision is getting rid of the stupid locked by class glam!

I don't see anyone knowingly lying. Some people just wanna interpret things that way. Yoshida isn't promising things to 100% be a certain way and staying that way forever. It's game development so he's just saying what they can reasonably do in that moment. They implement something and see how that goes re: player trends and server performance, then make changes if they are needed and technically feasible.

They could add lots more storage and housing wards right now but server performance is top priority, can't make the game experience more sluggish or error prone. All these increases are done gradually and carefully whenever they are confident about solving server processing bottlenecks.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

I don't know what this is about lying. I've not seen anything in the interviews that turned out to be a lie. Usually he tells us things that he is working on and then we see it within the following 3 years of that interview. He teased data center travel vaguely (and we got it) and he teased the captain rank vaguely (and we got it). The arguments about glamour dresser space were most likely explaining that it was difficult to increase storage space and that it can't be done without adding some more storage to the data center. There have been a number of hardware maintenance since every interview that this has been discussed so that the dresser space could be increased. Sometimes he says things that he believes at the time and changes his mind based on the feedback, such as displaying the powerful mark message.

These interviews are also subject to translation errors or can be misinterpreted.

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you need to take in consideration of the live letters and/or fanfest . Take for instance back in hw and job balancing. Yoshi P himself claimed that pld was strong. But once you dabble with it and see what the other tanks offered it was false. And yes that is true that he will change his mind but for those that "breath" his words will lap that up

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Originally Posted by MagiusNecros

Cross-class was a poor man's version of taking a sub job in other FF games which only works if you have a job system that interacts with each other which it doesn't here. It could but it just doesn't.

I think the more critical members of the playerbase might be more understanding if they were honest about why they change things. Especially in their patch notes.

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This i cannot agree more with. If they explain the changes like they are doing now it will be a bit easier to understand

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Originally Posted by Adamantini

what people forget is that Yoshi P is not their friend..

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Anyone else remember the time that he helped someone pop the question during a fanfest? :p

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Originally Posted by ameliaw

Hopefully their next decision is getting rid of the stupid locked by class glam!

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Was debating bringing up this very subject lol

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Originally Posted by SillyCrow

Honestly a lot of these statements don't mean much.

We were never supposed to get more glamour dresser space, but it eventually got doubled.

We we never supposed to get more glam set slots, we got them.

Stuff that was said years ago can change tomorrow.

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Or headgear and ears. *cough*

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Originally Posted by Axxion

you need to take in consideration of the live letters and/or fanfest . Take for instance back in hw and job balancing. Yoshi P himself claimed that pld was strong. But once you dabble with it and see what the other tanks offered it was false. And yes that is true that he will change his mind but for those that "breath" his words will lap that up

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Although it would have been nice if I could block magic then, I didn't have any practical problem doing savage as a PLD in HW.

It's exactly these sort of requests to "balance" it that led to what some people perceive as homogenization though, so they can't win whichever path they take.

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Originally Posted by SillyCrow

Honestly a lot of these statements don't mean much.

We were never supposed to get more glamour dresser space, but it eventually got doubled.

We we never supposed to get more glam set slots, we got them.

Stuff that was said years ago can change tomorrow.

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Yes ever since pre ARR days they have always said things that they end up changing their minds about.
Like housing for FC and individual players supposed to be completely separate with different pricing, or the combat supposed to reward effort and innovation, no plans for a playable race after Au'ra, no plans for challenging light-party content, etc.

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Originally Posted by ReynTime

Yes ever since pre ARR days they have always said things that they end up changing their minds about.
Like housing for FC and individual players supposed to be completely separate with different pricing, or the combat supposed to reward effort and innovation, no plans for a playable race after Au'ra, no plans for challenging light-party content, etc.

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Makes sense I suppose. Hard to know what you might have the budget or scope for years later. Maybe your priorities get reconsidered based on user feedback. Some enterprising young coder comes up with a workaround for some previously thought impassable obstacle.

Plenty of reasons why they might "change their minds".

Seems more appropriate to translate "we can't do that" as "we won't be doing that for the forseeable future".

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Originally Posted by Kaliesto

They made a lot of these over the years on why X reason can or cannot happen or it still being planned for the future.

Or why X reason was added or removed.

I noticed sometime we get users here that are not aware of those comments (including myself), should there be a pinned topic to archive all this or is there a site that has compiled all of these?

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You mean this post by Aniya_Estlihn on the 13th page of the thread "Glamours: Re-work the entire system"?

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Originally Posted by MagiusNecros

Cross-class was a poor man's version of taking a sub job in other FF games which only works if you have a job system that interacts with each other which it doesn't here. It could but it just doesn't.

I think the more critical members of the playerbase might be more understanding if they were honest about why they change things. Especially in their patch notes.

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Cross class was a poor man's version of 1.0's job system, which was an unbalanced implementation of the job system from FFV.

Pointless, really. People will just create their own little headcanon about what the developers do and don't do, as well as the issues themselves, or at the very least the cause/reason for said issues, regardless of what the developers say.

Personally, I'm also not interested in people playing Simon says with comments and further misconstruing and misrepresenting them.

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Originally Posted by Adamantini

Yoshi P has said many things, and many of them have proven false over time.

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That doesn't make it a lie.

Maybe new tech or a bigger budget made something that was impossible in 2016 a reality today. Maybe unforeseen issues forced a planned feature to be cut or altered. Maybe the ever evolving needs and wants of the players made something that was a good idea at launch feel bad nine years and four expansions later. Things change over time, but that doesn't make the original statements a lie.

Take housing for example. People love to point back to that early 2014 interview where YoshiP said something along the lines of "you won't lose your house if you stop playing" and shout "HE LIED TO US!" You weren't lied to. It was true when he said it and it remained true for a long time afterwards. The fact that the situation later changed doesn't mean you were intentionally misled.

This is also why the devs tend to hedge so much when talking about features. Saying things like "we're considering adding", and such. Because players are crazy and if something happens and they have to change/cancel/delay people love pointing to old interviews and crying foul.

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Originally Posted by Brightamethyst

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see any comments about why it's not possible to do X or Y. Want recent examples? Take any comments made about vieras and hrothgars to which the answer would simply be "we don't want to spend money", and see Yoshi P's responses to the community.

Yoshi P is the face of FFXIV, SE would never want him to speak certain truths to turn the community against the company. The fact is that the company is always cutting things out of the game to save as much as possible and make a higher profit than expected, but saying that to the public would be disastrous. So why don't we make our "hero" say things like "it's impossible to do that" or "according to lore..." instead.

I like Yoshi P and he also managed to hypnotize me to the point that I think he's a distant friend, but not to the point of deluding me that a lot of what he says is not because of SE.

J'ACCUUSEEEEEE!

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Originally Posted by Adamantini

see any comments about why it's not possible to do X or Y. Want recent examples? Take any comments made about vieras and hrothgars to which the answer would simply be "we don't want to spend money", and see Yoshi P's responses to the community.

Yoshi P is the face of FFXIV, SE would never want him to speak certain truths to turn the community against the company. The fact is that the company is always cutting things out of the game to save as much as possible and make a higher profit than expected, but saying that to the public would be disastrous. So why don't we make our "hero" say things like "it's impossible to do that" or "according to lore..." instead.

I like Yoshi P and he also managed to hypnotize me to the point that I think he's a distant friend, but not to the point of deluding me that a lot of what he says is not because of SE.

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I posted a comment the previous page, someone went and did that.

Some of Yoshida's own replies do reek of corporate bullshit, and it's like he makes absolutely no effort to hide that what he's saying is scripted. I think Yoshida genuinely cares about the game and its development as much as he says. Some stuff is clearly feasible. Nut until he has permission to tell his team to "go ahead" or he has the funding to do it, odds are he's just gonna have his hands tied and needs to play the nice boy and not keep our hopes up in polite ways.

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Originally Posted by DrWho2010

J'ACCUUSEEEEEE!

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...who's Jack Hughes?

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

so they can't win whichever path they take.

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Customer service in a nutshell.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

Yoshi-P actually does that many interviews that a list of them would span taller than mount everest and probably greater than the distance between the sun and pluto.

In the media tour he did them all day long and he did them for a few days running, all day, when he attended gamescom and similar events. Some of them are in japanese. He does them without these events through the year as well. Many of his comments are from the 72 live letters which involve him speaking for hours, 14-hour broadcasts, random live streams he has done such as patch note reading or doing savage or information released on the lodestone.

He does a lot of interviews. If there is any question you have, the chances are, he has answered it before sometime in the last 10 years. And that is why when almost any question gets asked here I can recall an answer he gave on the subject.

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Oh yea, well what type of socks does he prefer the most? I bet it's ear socks