Archfiend Coffer

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I'm currently level 21 on my series. Will my chances for getting the coffer be permanently gone once season2 rolls in? I know that the prelim notes states that you can still claim season 1 rewards via a separate tab, but does that only count for tier rewards that you've unlocked? I procrastinated leveling my tier rewards, so now I'm kind of crapping the bed - worried that Im gonna lose the chance to get the archfiend coffer. If that's the case.... sadge T_T. As it stands I'm def not getting to rank 25 for the coffer in the next 2 hours before maintenance lol.

They've said that it will still be possible to claim series 1 rewards up until series 3 is released.

I think you'll be fine as far as the archfiend coffer is concerned, I want to think they said that players could still earn series 1 rewards. How that will work remains to be seen, tho.

You can claim Rewards that you have not yet claimed but I don't think that you can claim that Level 25 Reward if you have not made it to that Level. After the Patch all Levels are set to 0 again.

Pretty sure you'll get series exp for series 2, not 1, so if you haven't already reached it you're probably out of luck. Unless they add it as an item you can get with trophy crystals or something.

you *should* be able to spend trophy crystals to get Series 1 rewards until the start of Series 3 (even if you didn't reach that level in Series 1). check the vendor tomorrow after the servers come back up.

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Originally Posted by DrWho2010

you *should* be able to spend trophy crystals to get Series 1 rewards until the start of Series 3 (even if you didn't reach that level in Series 1). check the vendor tomorrow after the servers come back up.

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They've been incredibly vague when it comes to this.
Unofficial translation had a line where Yoshi-P stated "If you didn't make it in time, you can still use these crystals to obtain the rewards for the previous series, they will stay for one additional patch but will be gone after that"
Official digest of the same live letter simply states "With each Series, your Series Level will be reset and the reward lineup will be changed, but you’ll be able to obtain rewards from one Series prior."
Patch notes, and a separate lodestone post about Series 1 ending simply state that rewards can only be claimed until the end of Series 2.

So yea, OP, best bet is to just hope for the best and check the PvP vendor after maintenance.

Don't worry. I'm sure if it's not available anymore they'll eventually put it in the online store for some outrageous price.

Cool cool, I thought at the preview of this new system, they said they got rid of the fomo, so I praised them for caring about their players and being more confident that people would want to play their content without shitty psychological tricks, and wasn't too worried about burning myself out on the new pvp mode.

Looks like I'm forced to grind it whether I'm enjoying it or not if I ever want anything from there.

Absolutely not a fan of this.

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Found the slide that gave me this impression

https://i.imgur.com/6hjrh3V.png

so "eventually" is the big word there I guess. So even though it LOOKS like they've brought back their old FOMO ways, maybe this is just them neglecting to inform us about, or my inability to find out how the other half of their rewards system works..

Hopefully we'll get a time table so we can know when things'll be coming back?

AAA developers eat, sleep and breathe FOMO. It makes them money.

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Originally Posted by Roda

Looks like I'm forced to grind it whether I'm enjoying it or not if I ever want anything from there.

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You're making it sound like it's some humongous grind, requiring you to completely focus on PvPing for the entire patch.

In reality, it's a total of 108k Series exp to reach rank 25. CC gives 900 for a win, 700 for a loss. Frontline gives 1500 for 1st place, 1250 for 2nd place, 1000 for 3rd place (and losing streak bonus applies to it, afaik)

A patch (and therefore Series) last for at least 4 months.
Even if you were to lose a single match of CC per day (which is roughly 7 min, including queue time), you'll hit 85.4k exp.

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Originally Posted by Nezerius

You're making it sound like it's some humongous grind, requiring you to completely focus on PvPing for the entire patch.

In reality, it's a total of 108k Series exp to reach rank 25. CC gives 900 for a win, 700 for a loss. Frontline gives 1500 for 1st place, 1250 for 2nd place, 1000 for 3rd place (and losing streak bonus applies to it, afaik)

A patch (and therefore Series) last for at least 4 months.
Even if you were to lose a single match of CC per day (which is roughly 7 min, including queue time), you'll hit 85.4k exp.

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And now let's imagine they play more than one game a day or *gasp* win. (smile)

Yeah I don't get this hyper aggressive fomo labeling, feels like the new age of Karen to me.

Where should I direct people who missed this and want it? I can't find the NPC that has the coffer.

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Originally Posted by Nezerius

You're making it sound like it's some humongous grind, requiring you to completely focus on PvPing for the entire patch.

In reality, it's a total of 108k Series exp to reach rank 25. CC gives 900 for a win, 700 for a loss. Frontline gives 1500 for 1st place, 1250 for 2nd place, 1000 for 3rd place (and losing streak bonus applies to it, afaik)

A patch (and therefore Series) last for at least 4 months.
Even if you were to lose a single match of CC per day (which is roughly 7 min, including queue time), you'll hit 85.4k exp.

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I didn't say how much time the grind would take. You're responding to a completely different point. I am disappointed in the apparent time limit, and the lack of clear communication, not the time spent in the game mode to get any item. I just like to use.. er.. colorful language, and theatrics, 'cause that's just kinda how I like to talk I guess? Everyone has a different intensity economy (mine's inflated. I had a 1man party over a delivery of trash bags once.)

I would just rather play a game mode and get rewards because I think it's fun and because I'd want to do it, not because I need to hit a quota before its availability goes away. Calculating how much time I need to do something just turns it from a fun distraction, to an obligation/chore. FOMO leads to goal paralysis, which can make something that I find fun... not.. that. Which is not ideal for a videogame I like to play.

Here's hoping either I'm freakin' blind and just couldn't find it on the shops (which is possible at 6am), or that it being missing is just an oversight, 'cause I was fairly excited to engage in the new system without some deadline pressing down on me.

Edit: ok, the wording is "eventually added later" So, I guess they mean like way later, and not like after the season? Gods I wish this was more clear.

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Originally Posted by Commander_Justitia

If it is not fun, don't do it.

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That's the plan /thumbsup

If it is not fun, don't do it.

Okay, so apparently it will be possible to still get the Archfiend Coffer, but it won't be available until a hotfix repairs a missing button on the Series reward claim.

The Coffer was part of the Battlepass that was announced to last from season 1 to 2.
You can still claim the battlepass rewards But: Only those of the series-steps you reached.

As the new battlepass has started i assume all new series points will land there.
Eventually: If you havent claimed your old series-rewards you might still get points
on this card - but thats just a thought.

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Originally Posted by Reinhardt_Azureheim

And now let's imagine they play more than one game a day or *gasp* win. (smile)

Yeah I don't get this hyper aggressive fomo labeling, feels like the new age of Karen to me.

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Truth be told there was more than enough time to get this item I'm really surprised there were any issues with it

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Originally Posted by JamieRose

Okay, so apparently it will be possible to still get the Archfiend Coffer, but it won't be available until a hotfix repairs a missing button on the Series reward claim.

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Afaik, there's no "missing button". The button to view previous Series only shows up if you have any unclaimed rewards.

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Originally Posted by MonteCristo

Truth be told there was more than enough time to get this item I'm really surprised there were any issues with it

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For those of us who didn't realize that the malmstones rewards were going to retire/vanish, we didn't think there was a deadline on earning them, therefore we prioritized other aspects of the game in the free time that we had.

I don't think it's karen-like, as some others are saying, to ask game developers to be clear about when certain content is going to be removed or what the deadlines are for events. It's just a basic courtesy. It would literally have been just one sentence: "If you want any of the series 1 malmstone rewards, please ensure you finish the track before 6.2 comes out, as all those rewards will be retiring." Done. Bam. Ez pz. I don't understand why they would hide this fact from their players. They did the opposite; they literally said that the series 1 rewards would be available through the end of season 2. So then you have people like me, who believed them, who then focused their free time on grinding blue mage runs for the moogle event and other prep for 6.2. Don't I feel dumb now.

Imagine if come patch 6.25, they just removed all of the ARR beast tribes all of a sudden. I'm going to guess the ARR beast tribes aren't a lot of players' top priority atm, especially with island sanctuary, pvp, new raids, new MSQ, etc. They're not running to their PCs or PS4/5 like "I MUST GRIND THE BEAST TRIBES ASAP" because there's no stated deadline. No deadline? No reason to hurry. I'll get to it when I get to it, when I feel in the mood. (Thing is, I'm almost never in the mood for those ARR beast tribes, lmao...)

So, I expect there are probably lots and lots of players who are upset about this -- but they're probably not the ones who regularly do PVP as their main fun, you know? I did the math for series 2 b/c I don't want to get screwed over again by any secret or obscure deadline. If I run just 2 CCs a day, even if we lose, I'll have finished the track through the mount just in time for 6.25, assuming that's approx 60 days from now ish. (I rarely run frontlines, but obviously others should consider that math figured into the total if they do.) So, that's the master plan...

Posted, 12th of August:

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PvP Series 1 will be available until the start of Patch 6.2 maintenance.

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PvP Series rewards will be updated when Series 2 begins, so take to the field of battle before Tuesday, 23 August and earn those rewards!

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* At the start of each new Series period, your Series EXP and level will be reset and the available rewards will be replaced.

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I'm sorry but you were given plenty of advance warning. The blame here lies squarely on yourself.

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Originally Posted by Azuri

Posted, 12th of August:


I'm sorry but you were given plenty of advance warning. The blame here lies squarely on yourself.

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I see. Thank you bringing this to my attention. I did not play any PVP prior to them creating & releasing CC, and apparently I should have been watching for any specific PVP updates posted to Lodestone rather than relying on information conveyed in the Live Letter. I am clearly a square peg in a round hole. Duly noted for future reference.

I watched the live letter prior to 6.2 being released and thought it had appropriately prepared me. Silly me. Don't I feel dumb. Their PPT slide specifically said "Available rewards will be updated and Series level/experience will be reset." I assumed updated meant added on to, and not "replaced." I suppose that is, in fact, my fault, for how I interpreted the word "updated." Like, if Disney World says they're updating Tomorrowland and don't provide any specific details, I'd assume that they're keeping Space Mountain but adding more features, for example. I'd be pretty surprised if Space Mountain just suddenly vanished since they didn't say it was "retiring" or being replaced.

SE went on to say that "Series One rewards may be claimed until the end of Series Two," which further led me -- and all of my FC, I might add, since I did ask everyone in Discord -- to believe that they could still be acquired until the end of Season Two.

I guess my new question is why they would include a section about PVP in their live letter and then specifically leave out such important details and post them in a separate lodestone statement. Today I learned. Thanks for pointing out the lodestone post to me. As mentioned, I'll be sure to watch for them rather than trusting the live letters alone to prepare me for patches moving forward. Fool me once...

Edit: I want to add that I had even read the preliminary patch notes, and even that didn't mention it, lmfao, nor does the final version of the patch notes. I just don't understand why they would stuff that vital detail into one separate lodestone post and hide it from the patch notes and the live letter. smh. Each to their own, I guess. Today I learned. Read every single lodestone post and assume the patch notes & live letters aren't giving you the full truth. Got it.