Please don't do maintenance on the 4th! America is off work!

Please reconsider doing your maintenance until after Independence Day. Lots of us have the day off and would love to be able to play.

The world does not revolve around the US. Stop acting like it does.

Please DO maintenance on the 4th!

Considering the amount of work they are about to do and the likely teams they had to organize for "smoke" testing.. I think this is far to late to change plans.

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

The world does not revolve around the US. Stop acting like it does.

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also Im very certain multitudes of Americans are forced to deal with annoying boozemad customers tomorrow regardless of holiday status.
The 9ish hours Im at work will be less time Im bored unable to log in lol

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Originally Posted by Nephon

Please reconsider doing your maintenance until after Independence Day. Lots of us have the day off and would love to be able to play.

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Well, if you have your backlog of Steam games in your library, the 4th will be a good time to try a few.

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

The world does not revolve around the US. Stop acting like it does.

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Although I feel everyone has an equal right to an opinion, the old adage Money makes the world go round is true.

https://i.imgur.com/FgSqHUm.png

Global Money says the World does in Fact revolve around the USA. On top of this...

https://i.imgur.com/9iv35Kq.png

Basically, the money says, North American Customers are important. And Square should consider them when designing things...

https://i.imgur.com/WLN46pc.png

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Originally Posted by Gothicshark

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But if we merge the others together they do stand above America in those graphs.

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Originally Posted by Nephon

Please reconsider doing your maintenance until after Independence Day. Lots of us have the day off and would love to be able to play.

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Touch the grass already.

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Originally Posted by Evergrey

But if we merge the others together they do stand above America in those graphs.

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The majority of Money goes through the USA or China, the Majority of FFXIV players are in North America. The US the 3rd highest Population, Largest Economy with China being neck and Neck.

I just get a bit tired of "lets abuse American opinions" on these forums. Close to half of the Player Base has the 4th off, it's a good time to have the servers running, as you want to encourage people playing. The 24 hour downtime for patches, can be annoying at any time, but try and time those when people don't have a massive holiday. And by Massive, the 4th is a holiday that affects a large portion of the player base, and most people (besides Retail Workers) have the day off.

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Originally Posted by Gothicshark

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yes yes. The United States is number one...

however not all of the stats it is number one in are anything to be proud of.

just saying that alone is something worth reflecting on tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by Gothicshark

The majority of Money goes through the USA or China, the Majority of FFXIV players are in North America. The US the 3rd highest Population, Largest Economy with China being neck and Neck.

I just get a bit tired of "lets abuse American opinions" on these forums. Close to half of the Player Base has the 4th off, it's a good time to have the servers running, as you want to encourage people playing. The 24 hour downtime for patches, can be annoying at any time, but try and time those when people don't have a massive holiday. And by Massive, the 4th is a holiday that affects a large portion of the player base, and most people (besides Retail Workers) have the day off.

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I should point out that they are not saying close to half of players are US citizens. they are playing on the North American server. thats all that figure states. not to mention the many that are working so they do not actually have the 4th off if they are in the US

I do not think your figures are saying what you think they say.

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Originally Posted by Kes13a

yes yes. The United States is number one...

however not all of the stats it is number one in are anything to be proud of.

just saying that alone is something worth reflecting on tomorrow.

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I'm more than aware of the short comings, but to abuse people for where they were born and live is Elitist, you are acting like you are better because you were fortunate to not be born in a Nation Ruled by Fear, Bigots, Sexism, and Racism. Although unless you are in ... some made up fantasy nation, I am sure Women have fewer rights than men, the LGBT are still struggling for rights, and colored minorities and religions are being persecuted on a government level, even New Zealand and Canada have failings in these things.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVMib1T4T4

In short NOT HAPPENING

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Originally Posted by Kes13a

I should point out that they are not saying close to half of players are US citizens. they are playing on the North American server. thats all that figure states. not to mention the many that are working so they do not actually have the 4th off if they are in the US

I do not think your figures are saying what you think they say.

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True, and yes people play in NA from around the world, and other parts of North America, but an Equal number of people from North America play on Servers outside of North America. The reality though, the Vast Majority of NA players are in the US. The population spread is probably close to the population Spread of North America.

The US has 332.7 Million People, Mexico has 130.1 Million People, California has 39.4 million people, and Canada has 38 million people.

the 4th is a US Holiday
just play something else

Dont worry, Maintenance is Full Go and will be done on Schedule.

Go Enjoy the 4th of July everybody :D

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Originally Posted by Gothicshark

The 24 hour downtime for patches, can be annoying at any time, but try and time those when people don't have a massive holiday. And by Massive, the 4th is a holiday that affects a large portion of the player base, and most people (besides Retail Workers) have the day off.

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No, Christmas affects a massive portion of the player base as many countries have it has a public holiday. 4th July affects just one, and whether you want to argue oh the US is important blah blah, no it's really not, the rest of the world is still functioning and working. Things don't stop because Uncle Sam wants to take a break

Not everyone in the US is off on the 4th.

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Originally Posted by Canadane

Not everyone in the US is off on the 4th.

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This, especially those working grocery stores, food services, hospitals, etc. Essential workers don't get a day off sadly.

Y'all need to touch grass if an MMO having a Maintenance is gonna ruin a holiday.

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

This, especially those working grocery stores, food services, hospitals, etc. Essential workers don't get a day off sadly.

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Remember to tip your baristas, folks.

I guess I'll take my shower for the month...

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

This, especially those working grocery stores, food services, hospitals, etc. Essential workers don't get a day off sadly.

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No we don't and sometimes we essential workers don't even get Holiday pay for working these holidays either, I've worked in companies that have either not paid or have paid.

Side note: Even if I was off that day I wouldn't complain about the down time for the game cause I would be with family and probably would have bought all the fire works too lol.

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Originally Posted by Canadane

Remember to tip your baristas, folks.

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I'd say do more than just tip them, don't be a douche period cause they have to work. Lol ^_^

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Originally Posted by Gothicshark

The majority of Money goes through the USA or China, the Majority of FFXIV players are in North America. The US the 3rd highest Population, Largest Economy with China being neck and Neck.

I just get a bit tired of "lets abuse American opinions" on these forums. Close to half of the Player Base has the 4th off, it's a good time to have the servers running, as you want to encourage people playing. The 24 hour downtime for patches, can be annoying at any time, but try and time those when people don't have a massive holiday. And by Massive, the 4th is a holiday that affects a large portion of the player base, and most people (besides Retail Workers) have the day off.

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I don't think anyone's really going for a "let's abuse American opinions" in this matter.
I'd rather say that it's because more often than not it's Amaricans that complains when a maintenance becomes inconvenient and the majority, I would guess, is just feeling the "American entitlement" due to it.

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Originally Posted by Nephon

Please reconsider doing your maintenance until after Independence Day. Lots of us have the day off and would love to be able to play.

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There is always some local holiday somewhere. And there are many Independence Days - most of which aren't on the 4th of July. They can't take every foreign country into consideration.

But regardless, you are a couple of weeks too late. This kind of major maintenance is scheduled long in advance, involving many people. You don't reschedule that on short notice unless there is absolutely no choice.

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Originally Posted by Gothicshark

I just get a bit tired of "lets abuse American opinions" on these forums. Close to half of the Player Base has the 4th off, it's a good time to have the servers running, as you want to encourage people playing. The 24 hour downtime for patches, can be annoying at any time, but try and time those when people don't have a massive holiday. And by Massive, the 4th is a holiday that affects a large portion of the player base, and most people (besides Retail Workers) have the day off.

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Oh honey, I am American, that's why I'm getting on your case. We are not the world, we are not the most important people on the planet, and rather than just accept the fact that inconveniences happen, you're here like a Karen complaining. So knock it off, and do something else on the 4th, like the rest of us.

I was going back through forum history.. and in 2017 when maintenance was on the 3rd of July, the Americans also complained...

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Originally Posted by exilio

All Worlds Maintenance (Jul. 3) - ON A HOLIDAY?!

Thanks SE!!

I rarely get time off. I was looking forward to playing, yet you once again have hosed North America by not only performing maintenance during regular gaming hours but on a holiday night?! I know only Americans celebrate the 4th of July but isn't that the bulk of your customers besides Japan?

Crappy timing, SE.

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https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...-ON-A-HOLIDAY-!

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Originally Posted by Knot_D

Touch the grass already.

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Its 105 F (40.6c) outside. Way too hot.

"America is off work for the 4th"
American here, since when was that a thing? We are in an oligopoly and those workers won't browbeat themselves! Get to work America, your livelyhood depends on it!

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Please reconsider doing your maintenance until after Independence Day. Lots of us have the day off and would love to be able to play.

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The devs have their own timetables and staffing issues, and dont take any of that into account.

Go outside for a while, you will manage.

I'm curious about where some of these complainers live. In NYC, there's plenty open and plenty to do.

https://c.tenor.com/CBd2RMY87HkAAAAC/arnold-shut-up.gif

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Originally Posted by Gothicshark

The majority of Money goes through the USA or China, the Majority of FFXIV players are in North America. The US the 3rd highest Population, Largest Economy with China being neck and Neck.

I just get a bit tired of "lets abuse American opinions" on these forums. Close to half of the Player Base has the 4th off, it's a good time to have the servers running, as you want to encourage people playing. The 24 hour downtime for patches, can be annoying at any time, but try and time those when people don't have a massive holiday. And by Massive, the 4th is a holiday that affects a large portion of the player base, and most people (besides Retail Workers) have the day off.

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So then why are y'all complaining so much about companies pandering to China?
The only reason why you're making this argument is because it benefits you to suddenly care about this, you wouldn't be making it if it didn't.

And please... Quit with the victim mentality.
The reason why Americans are the subject here is quite self-evident.
If anyone else made a billion threads about this every time because there's a holiday in their country or an ingame holiday fell on a different date than they're used to they'd get told off the same.
If people don't want to hear this then stop acting entitled and making threads about this.
Please have some humility and self-awareness.

It's not just this either it's also when holidays ingame don't fall on the same day as in the US and we get a billion threads of people flipping out about it, it's just obnoxious.

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

Oh honey, I am American, that's why I'm getting on your case. We are not the world, we are not the most important people on the planet, and rather than just accept the fact that inconveniences happen, you're here like a Karen complaining. So knock it off, and do something else on the 4th, like the rest of us.

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Things are also a bit more complicated than just '' the US the biggest '', the US has a much larger EU population than vice versa and just because a company exists in the US doesn't mean that all of the employees are American.
Gaming companies in the US have A LOT of European people working in the studios same in every entertainment industry.
Things are very centralized in the US for convenience sake yeah, so people will essentially be forced to move there if they want to work for most of the big studios whether in gaming, music or movies etc.

The US is a bit more complicated in that sense behind the scenes than other countries, especially in movies and tv shows it's very often more of a global effort where the actors are from all over the world, writers from different countries, prop studios abroad etc.

I'm gonna celebrate tomorrow with pizza and Coca-Cola...
... and I am not even American.

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Originally Posted by rance-sama

I'm gonna celebrate tomorrow with pizza and Coca-Cola...
... and I am not even American.

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HECK YEAH
That sounds like a good time away from FFXIV

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Originally Posted by rance-sama

I'm gonna celebrate tomorrow with pizza and Coca-Cola...
... and I am not even American.

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I am gonna have a nice steak and some snacks and finish the Sopranos.

I have to work tomorrow anyways. People still get their dogs groomed on the 4th of July. For some reason. :V

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Originally Posted by Kolsykol

I am gonna have a nice steak and some snacks and finish the Sopranos.

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Dang, that sounds like a good time to.

Walk outside or spend time with family/friends.

Maintenance starting in few hours, I wonder if the PvP rankings update before or after it.