Ok so i did an oppssy and bid on an FC only plot when i wanted a personal plot, so i contacted support and waited for a reply. i checked the plot after the auction was done to see if it would give me the option to get the gil back but the only options i get are to finalize, then choose to relocate (from a large plot to a small plot which i may be dumb but im not that dumb, aint going to happen) or Free company. So when i click The other option Free company i got " Confirm the purchase of this free company plot? *The amount of your deposit will be applied in full to your purchase, and you will receive no refund." So i looked at it and had to stop cuz we already had a house and i wanted my gil back. i emded up dredging through the patch notes to find out i can get a cancellation with a 50% fee but didnt uderstand how. So i waited for a response to my support message, i get an email from the support staff 72 hours after i sent my message (i get it they are busy no biggy) and this is part of what i got "If you have won, then you can choose not to buy the house but lose 50% of the gil." along with some other stuff that looks copied and pasted from some notes. So ok i have to wait for my reservation on the plot to end to get my gil back. Couldn't there be an option like "*oppsy i messed up take half my money and let me go bid on a plot i can actually use". Instead of making me wait around 7 days plus the days before the lotto was done, and missing out on the current lottery, and allowing the fcs who dont want the plots to get one? I mean really you have like 30 empty plots in 1 fc subdivision, the demand for fc housing is staggering. I understand they are trying to do what they can, but this just feels out right silly to me. I made a mistake and now not only lose 1.65mil gil, but i lose out on opportunity to try to win a plot i can actually use on this current lottery (Housing is one of the few things i actually wanted to do since 'ive maxed out all of my classes and have -200% interest in raiding, the horrid pvp, or making an alt). So i guess ill wait another what 4 days to get my gil back hopefully. This experience has totally soured the thought of housing in this game for me, thanks for that.
i mean really?
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06-12-2022, 08:55 PMXerosini mean really?
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06-12-2022, 09:37 PMDrkdays
It's a system that is held back purely and simply by a lack of resources.
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06-12-2022, 09:46 PMAzuri
You literally can't miss on another lottery in this situation. It won't start until claiming period is over and once it is over you will be able to pick up your gil. This is simply a non-issue.
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06-13-2022, 05:05 AMThemarvin
System is not held back, the lottery periods is et to give every one a chance, also a chance to pick up at lottos end... it is the best and most fair system they ever could come up with, and it does not end resulting in camping a placecard for 2 days clicking or botting or whatever.
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06-13-2022, 05:44 AMDrkdaysExcept there are now fewer personal homes than ever and we can presume it will be months before an opportunity to bid on a home pops up again since it is unclear if they will allow bidders to bid for a home should one open or if we have to wait for a next "round."Quote:
Originally Posted by Themarvin
Fair? Yes. But also tragically unfair. By making this lottery system they have murdered hope for the unlucky who can now only wonder if they will ever get a home when the odds are so stacked against them.
Which is why the lack of resources is why this new system is held back. They need to add more houses if they want this to be truly fair to their paying customers.
You can't toss a handful of hotdogs into a crowd of starving people and call it fair when they are all paying for a buffet. -
06-13-2022, 05:55 AMHasrat
They've got entire new worlds full of empty housing coming up for NA and EU before long. So, wish (nearly) granted?
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06-13-2022, 07:41 AMDrkdays
Provided you're willing to sacrifice to get to that new server.
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06-13-2022, 08:18 AMOizenLack of developer care to reinvest in their game*Quote:
Originally Posted by Drkdays
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06-13-2022, 10:27 AMJojoya
They want players to take responsibility for their choices so there's no trolling of the system. It's an unfortunate mistake but the placard would have clearly read "Available to free companies. Unavailable to private buyers" before you clicked on it to enter, and would have had a confirmation window that you were entering on behalf of your Free Company before you confirmed your entry.
You'll be able to claim your partial refund tomorrow after the new lottery entry period starts so you can enter for a personal then.
You may want to suggest to your FC Master that Land Acquisition rights be removed from all ranks so no would be able to accidentally (or with malicious intent) relocate the FC house. It's unlikely the FC is going to want to move for a while since it managed to get a large. -
06-13-2022, 04:55 PMHasratNow you're just adding conditions after the fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drkdays
You requested more housing, more housing is coming.
Everyone always says "well yeah if you're willing to give up x y z"
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06-13-2022, 07:22 PMDrkdaysShould I really have to give up ANYTHING for a home other than gil?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hasrat
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06-13-2022, 10:16 PMJojoyaWhat players have been requesting is more houses on their worlds that lack sufficient houses, not houses on new worlds where there are few players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hasrat
No one should have to get cut off from their social circles to get access to content, nor lose access to content to get access to their social circles.
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06-14-2022, 01:23 AMYodadaAt this point its just laziness and entitlement from people who dont want to settle into new servers. The game is setup up that with every server there are also the same kind ofQuote:
Originally Posted by Jojoya
accompying housing server with a certain amount of supply. And as long as crossworld Linkshells and Groups and Cross DC travelling in a few weeks exist its no excuse for the
social access (friends, partner whatever) if people started on old settled servers instead of newer ones.
It still baffles me that people who newly started the game didnt invest 5 Min to check how the servers are working and are populated. I mean we have one of the transparent Devs
sitting at FF14 and people arent able to read a few posts via the Lodestone. Heck you can even create a Fake FC on the new Server and bidding on plots and then move the old FC
over to the new server. There are so many options which FF is offering in regards of this its mindblowing that people doesnt want to use/play it. Instead its torches and pitchforks.
Guess that are the same dumbheads who are bidding on FC Plots instead of a Private ones or vica verse even if they are getting 2 ingame notes "if they are really sure about the bid".
Well we're gonna read the same newly opened BS about Shell, Multiowners, Lottery, Taxes, Grandfathering every day instead of using the designated Housing Threads so atleast the
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06-14-2022, 06:48 AMJojoyaI'm sorry but no.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yodada
One of the draws of the game is to be playing with your friends.
Another draw is being able to purchase a house for personal use.
There is zero good reason that SE is forcing players to have to choose between the two when most other MMOs with housing do not have this problem. -
06-14-2022, 12:12 PMShibiThe system as it stands is what we work with today while we keep pushing SE to look at what people want then do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jojoya
And like in all of life there are sometimes choices.
There are three (maybe imperfect) choices people can make while we keep pushing SE get their bum into gear
* Stay with their friends and make sure they have an apartment then keep bidding for the least popular smalls in every round.
* Move to the new servers and be close on guaranteed a home, but possibly start a new life with new friends.
* Keep a leg in both servers, friends and social circle on main, and house in another on an alt. A little more work, but this gives all options at the moment.
And maybe a fourth choice I think, which we are seeing a lot, they keep having tantrums about it without being positive and productive.
We gotta keep pushing SE to deal with this wart. Too many people are unhappy. Far more unhappy people, by any forum-noticable-measure, than we ever saw with placard clicking. -
06-14-2022, 06:31 PMFrizze
Not to be that person, but one thing to consider. The new servers coming online this summer will be doing so in already established areas. A north american player moving to a new NA server is only a DC visit away from any friends on any other NA server who didnt make the move - a very different situation then those who moved to the oceania DC only to be isolated. I preemptively agree that whatever process of logging out and sending your character back and forth will be annoying to some. But the option will be there for the people who decide to take it.
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06-14-2022, 08:43 PMYodadaCrossworld Travel, Crossworld Linkshells, Crossworld Groups. Doesnt hinder you to play with friends. Funny isnt it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jojoya
When new Servers are added and people are still complaining with the given "but play with mah friends" excuses
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06-14-2022, 09:08 PMLaylaTsarra
There are drawbacks to not being on the same server. Can't join a FC, can't access your retainers, can't moogle mail people even if they are on your friends list or even receive mail. Communication though and the ability to play with friends is certainly there. Going to be interesting to see how that goes with Data Center travel. I hope we get some more info soon on the restrictions given the time is getting close for it's implementation.