I recommend achievement hunting!

Hi im just making this post in hopes it reaches someone, but I've been in a really bad place in xiv since I could never find nothing to do that felt important for me, so I would have very little reasons to log in to do anything... Until I started achievement hunting!

Achievement hunting does not sound appealing at first but how I looked at it is... its quite literally like 100%ting a game, and I have a history of doing that with every kirby game I play.

For people like me that find it hard to find reasons to log in or do anything in this game I recommend you start achievement hunting... atleast for me it made the game feel a lot bigger than it did before then... but if its not your thing I totally understand that, I just felt I could point this out to people who want reasons to play the game like me.

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Originally Posted by Minarisweet

Hi im just making this post in hopes it reaches someone, but I've been in a really bad place in xiv since I could never find nothing to do that felt important for me, so I would have very little reasons to log in to do anything... Until I started achievement hunting!

Achievement hunting does not sound appealing at first but how I looked at it is... its quite literally like 100%ting a game, and I have a history of doing that with every kirby game I play.

For people like me that find it hard to find reasons to log in or do anything in this game I recommend you start achievement hunting... atleast for me it made the game feel a lot bigger than it did before then... but if its not your thing I totally understand that, I just felt I could point this out to people who want reasons to play the game like me.

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That's some excellent advice, actually. They say "You haven't experienced the full game until you've unlocked everything." I'd also like to recommend something too. I want to recommend RP. There's something great about developing a character to be more than just another cat boy or elf wandering among others. Light RP is loads of fun, and gives an excuse to read up on the lore!

Achievements don't give enough (or in most cases any) rewards for me to care enough about them to actually chase them.

The ones that do have rewards are an insane grind for the most part

I'd also recommend https://xivtodo.com/ - it's not a cheevo tracker in all essence, but more of a "here's what you skipped while blazing through the MSQ" list

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Originally Posted by A_moth_called_rose

I'd also recommend https://xivtodo.com/ - it's not a cheevo tracker in all essence, but more of a "here's what you skipped while blazing through the MSQ" list

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I'd like to give that a go, but with the whole "Hurr durr third party programs" debacle going on, i'll play it safe for a while... I like the idea though, don't get me wrong.

I already done with the end game :)

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Originally Posted by Knot_D

I already done with the end game :)

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Imagine doing something like that and only getting a title. This game's achievements are a joke

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Originally Posted by Klytania

Imagine doing something like that and only getting a title. This game's achievements are a joke

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I mean most RPG's achievement are like that no? What even they should give? 10 phials of Fantasia? :eek:

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Originally Posted by Knot_D

I mean most RPG's achievement are like that no? What even they should give? 10 phials of Fantasia? :eek:

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Doesn't mean it's good. Though I agree XIV is definitely outdated as far as achievement rewards go. I mean, how many 10s of thousands of possible points are there? And they haven't updated the guy where you can spend your points in how long?

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Originally Posted by Knot_D

I mean most RPG's achievement are like that no? What even they should give? 10 phials of Fantasia? :eek:

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back in the old MMO i played, they would typically reward mounts, pets, and titles. Albeit, the mounts were usually recolored, and the pets were unimpressive. Occasionally, there were toys, but meh. And to put it into perspective on how cheap the rewards were, there was an achievement that required one to get all achievements in all holiday events, making it year-round chain achievement hunt... for a purple dragon mount.

Whenever you're bored, I recommend walking outside and picking up pebbles. Honestly, if you haven't picked up every single pebble in the world at least once, how can you possibly complain there is nothing to do?

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Originally Posted by LittleImp

Whenever you're bored, I recommend walking outside and picking up pebbles. Honestly, if you haven't picked up every single pebble in the world at least once, how can you possibly complain there is nothing to do?

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I don't get it.

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Originally Posted by Vav2021

back in the old MMO i played, they would typically reward mounts, pets, and titles. Albeit, the mounts were usually recolored, and the pets were unimpressive. Occasionally, there were toys, but meh. And to put it into perspective on how cheap the rewards were, there was an achievement that required one to get all achievements in all holiday events, making it year-round chain achievement hunt... for a purple dragon mount.

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There are mounts pets and titles for FFXIV's achievements too?

And glam gear. ... admittedly a lot of it I won't wear but it's there.

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Originally Posted by LittleImp

Whenever you're bored, I recommend walking outside and picking up pebbles. Honestly, if you haven't picked up every single pebble in the world at least once, how can you possibly complain there is nothing to do?

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Does doing that give me a achievement achieved pop-up window? If not, then it is just self-imposed challenge. May as well do manual breathing.

Seems like there is a bit of fighting... just wanted to remind im not saying you HAVE to be doing this if you are bored just saying you should try it out if you feel like me see if you like it or not. How I see it is just 100%ing a game which does make sense since yoshida tries to treat this game like its just another final fantasy title but its also in the end an mmorpg, so a lot of these achievements are very grindy.

Achievements are not a perfect system but its been pretty fun getting them and I think you should give it a chance too.

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Originally Posted by Minarisweet

Seems like there is a bit of fighting... just wanted to remind im not saying you HAVE to be doing this if you are bored just saying you should try it out if you feel like me see if you like it or not. How I see it is just 100%ing a game which does make sense since yoshida tries to treat this game like its just another final fantasy title but its also in the end an mmorpg, so a lot of these achievements are very grindy.

Achievements are not a perfect system but its been pretty fun getting them and I think you should give it a chance too.

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It's an expansive assortment of goals with rewards locked behind them.. nothing wrong with encouraging people to check them out.

There's so much to do in the game besides grinding endgame ilevels, it's nice to see others checking it out.

Some people just like being mad no matter the topic. Personally I think it broadens your horizons on all the content in the game so it's worth at least checking out. Plus the mahjong titles are rarer and harder to get than the ultimate ones.

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Originally Posted by MagicalChase

Some people just like being mad no matter the topic. Personally I think it broadens your horizons on all the content in the game so it's worth at least checking out. Plus the mahjong titles are rarer and harder to get than the ultimate ones.

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there's an old saying that goes "The reason you see unhappy people on the forums and no happy people is because the happy people are playing and enjoying the game."

They could easily incentivize people to do achievements by just adding more things to buy with achievement points and/or have meta achievements for reaching certain point thresholds that have enticing rewards.

As things currently stand I don't think it's a stretch to say that about 90% of the achievements in the game are fluff that don't have rewards other then the points themselves attached.

Achievement pet: Floating #1 ribbon.

Description: There isn't an explicit description on what exactly this magical ribbon is for, but since it's following you around, it must mean you're Number One!... in something!

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I don't recommend achievement hunting but rather mount collecting. SE adds mounts to things they want people to do, knowing that it won't pressure people to do it who just want to complete quests and do it once.

For example, there is a mount for doing all of the blue mage content, collecting triple triad cards, winning 100 or more of each pvp match, crafting and gathering a lot in the firmament, hunting a lot and ocean fishing a lot. There is a mount for doing beast tribes. Mount collecting takes you through a variety of different content and grinds which take a lot of time if you want something to occupy you after clearing all the content.

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Originally Posted by Jeeqbit

There is a mount for doing beast tribes.

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When the devs just handed out the beastman tribe mounts during the mog extravaganza, that really grinded my gears for some reason.

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Originally Posted by Raoabolic

When the devs just handed out the beastman tribe mounts during the mog extravaganza, that really grinded my gears for some reason.

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They are old ones and help newer players catch up, but I still wouldn't get them that way because I wouldn't complete the beast tribe ranks or see the story.

I've actually been trying to unlock achievements as I try to level my jobs to max. It makes the journey longer but at the end of my journey I'll feel way more accomplished and satisfied.

I casually try to do the tank mounts whenever I feel, long road if I do not do that without deltascape 3 PF but I like switching up tanks (currently got both panther mounts from DRK before 6.1)

...and I still need to do 1.000 leves for the ps4 platinum trophy, that is boring damn it lol

I too recommend it. But I understand that completionism isn't for everyone.

I just finished crafting all my Pactmaker gear with help from my FC and will return to that soon. I want them Immortal Flame titles! Flames for life!

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Originally Posted by Klytania

Achievements don't give enough (or in most cases any) rewards for me to care enough about them to actually chase them.

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This is pretty much my personal take on achievements in FF14 as well. I get that some people just like to see the number go up or see that checkmark pop up when you complete something, but I tend to gravitate more towards rewards that I find compelling (which, of course, means some things I find compelling will get a Big Meh from others). I'd be more inclined to chase achievements in FF14 if there were more rewards for doing so, and the achievement shop has gone completely forgotten for years now.

Once you get a mount, it's enough and aiming higher is boring and tedious. Take 500 battle leves or doing the tank mount grind twice for the achievements after the mount. You could spend that time doing something new that actually gives you a reward you can show off.

It's impossible to 100% this game for most players, there are many achievements that are forever unobtainable. Not to mention the sheer amount of work required to even get some of these achievements.

I don't recommend achievement hunting considering MMOs give crummy rewards for sometimes absolute epic wastes of time

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Originally Posted by gotaname1

I don't recommend achievement hunting considering MMOs give crummy rewards for sometimes absolute epic wastes of time

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Well, most are. Some of the most tedious achievements in this game reward nothing more than achievement points. At best, you might get some awful title you won't use, for the most part.

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Originally Posted by Vav2021

back in the old MMO i played, they would typically reward mounts, pets, and titles. Albeit, the mounts were usually recolored, and the pets were unimpressive. Occasionally, there were toys, but meh. And to put it into perspective on how cheap the rewards were, there was an achievement that required one to get all achievements in all holiday events, making it year-round chain achievement hunt... for a purple dragon mount.

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The Violet Proto-Drake was a reskin, but a reskin of a mount model that was otherwise only obtainable either as a rare world drop, a very low drop from a specific heroic boss, completing a meta-achievement for Heroic dungeons or from completing meta achievements in raiding. It also used to give 310% flying over other flying mounts of only 280%. The only other 310% flying for years was if you had unlocked certain raid mounts. It was a pretty big deal for years that "casual" players could get access to what was seen as an epic mount or otherwise unachievable mount speed increase. I knew a lot of people that happily worked towards getting their Violet-Proto Drakes.

They did eventually remove the 310% flying from the Violet-Proto Drake and other mounts and just made it a normal purchasable mount speed upgrade.

WoW's (and other MMOs) achievement system is leagues above FFXIV. There's just no comparison. There's interesting achievements that encourage exploration, quest completionism, beating bosses in unusual ways that often require doing mechanics "wrong" or flawlessly, hidden quest lines, etc. FFXIV has some good achievements like the Bozja duels, sightseeing, various ocean fishing achievements and reasonable but grindy completionism like the Bozja field notes. But the vast majority are either "Congrats, you beat this Main Story Quest which we've designed to be beaten by anyone with a pulse" or "congrats, you did this meaningless activity 5,000 times!" Achievements in FFXIV are either so easy to obtain that they're pointless, or they encourage/require unhealthy amounts of time invested into banal activates, like killing thousands of A and S ranks per expansion for a mount.

Just because other games in the genre are notorious for having bad achievement systems, doesn't mean FFXIV couldn't be better.

FF14 achievements aren't worth it at all for me. Too many of them are extremely grindy with no reward or simple participation achievements. There are way too many titles as rewards. There are very few worthwhile breakpoint achievements, like a mount at 50 mounts, 75 mounts, 100 mounts and so on. You also can't display them in any notable way and while I know "showing off" is looked down on in ff14, it's also a part of online gameplay to be able to share accomplishments. The minion and mount tabs are terrible too. All this combined makes it feel like achievements in this game aren't meant to be collected. It's designed so you can't get them all. They just added them in because they had to, but don't really want to make a big deal of it or make you want to do it.

I agree WoW did it better. I even liked that they displayed achievements in guild chat because spam aside, it was nice to "grats!" fellow guild members or receive a "grats" and it would provide a small form of interaction. Achievements for beating raid or dungeon bosses in unique ways added replayability and fun challenges and there were a lot of breakpoint achievements that made it worth collecting all the various things in the game. They were also designed so that you could get most of them over time. And they were visible, even on the forums and while no one really cared about achievements that much and you'd be ridiculed if you were toxic over it, it was just a nice perk to have that high score.

I'd love if ff14 revamped the achievement system and added incentive to collect them. It would provide a ridiculous amount of gametime at very little development cost.

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Originally Posted by Liam_Harper

I'd love if ff14 revamped the achievement system and added incentive to collect them. It would provide a ridiculous amount of gametime at very little development cost.

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Yes I'd love this too, just being able to buy more rewards from the npc that uses the tokens would atleast make people acknowledge more achievements exist and care about getting some points for whatever rewards they want.

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Originally Posted by Minarisweet

Hi im just making this post in hopes it reaches someone, but I've been in a really bad place in xiv since I could never find nothing to do that felt important for me, so I would have very little reasons to log in to do anything... Until I started achievement hunting!

Achievement hunting does not sound appealing at first but how I looked at it is... its quite literally like 100%ting a game, and I have a history of doing that with every kirby game I play.

For people like me that find it hard to find reasons to log in or do anything in this game I recommend you start achievement hunting... atleast for me it made the game feel a lot bigger than it did before then... but if its not your thing I totally understand that, I just felt I could point this out to people who want reasons to play the game like me.

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Achievements have nice titles and rewards you can get most people don't know about.