why we still got race restricted hair??

what propose it serves? make all race specific hair be usable by all. why can t a mid lender use one of the anime hairs the au ra got or the the ou ra one from the elezen? then the hole badly managed way the new races got hairs need to go out the window. i know yushi likes to pretend make hair is hard and all bit come on we know moderns can do it in not that long time. when we as the one that make it so THE DEVS EBEN HAVE A JOB AND GET PAYED will stop pretend its ok and start be more demanding.
what you think of this?:confused:

I need the Male Viera hair so bad.
The one with the little tuff on the side is hair is so cute.

It really is absurd.

There is no reason for this; especially for a company the size of square.

I feel you partner,

I desire to have some wavy/curly hairstyle for my Eleezen & I am envious the male Viera’s & Roegadyn’s has some cool wavy/curly hairstyles.

If anything I’ve noticed majority of the hair styles are uber slicked as though I had a cow licked my hair to remain straight & stiff.

Come on devs,

Hear us out!

I assume it's that visually-different hair has the same reference number across different models (like an extreme version of the unlockable styles that do something completely different by gender) and perhaps can't easily be untangled.

You can have the viera hairstyles when viera can wear headgear and can use the mogstation and unlocked hairstyles.
Till then let us have at least something unique as a race.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

I assume it's that visually-different hair has the same reference number across different models (like an extreme version of the unlockable styles that do something completely different by gender) and perhaps can't easily be untangled.

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come one don't use this cheap excuses. i know you do not mean it in a bad way. thing is its really easy to port the hair from one had to another. look up what moders do for this game. mind yo the moderns do not have the tools the devs do.

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Originally Posted by VerdeLuck

You can have the viera hairstyles when viera can wear headgear and can use the mogstation and unlocked hairstyles.
Till then let us have at least something unique as a race.

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jokes on you i want the au ra ones. but to be honest i want all have the same things. no one be left out. thing is the limited races are as much on the devs as on the people willing to use them. don't use half made work and expectations of it to be finished later . it wont be.

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Originally Posted by VerdeLuck

You can have the viera hairstyles when viera can wear headgear and can use the mogstation and unlocked hairstyles.
Till then let us have at least something unique as a race.

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yeah the mogstation nonsense is ridiculous.
like. we're paying -cash- for this. what the hell?

I believe the real answer is that having restrictions just makes things more simple to work with. When you have to adapt something to each race, that's more work you gotta put in to make it look good (although those Hrothgar hairstyles...).

Some might argue that it gives races "uniqueness", and it does to the extent of "X race is unable to use Y race's hairstyle."

This seems kind of silly to me, however, for I've yet to find a reason why a certain race might not be able to style their hair in a certain way while another one could.

Lowkey want the spiky male Au Ra hair with the ponytail in the back.

No reason at all to be restricted,

No logic needed,

Period,

Now please unrestrict this for variety & complexity’s sake!

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Originally Posted by SamsaraTrickstar

come one don't use this cheap excuses. i know you do nor mean it in a bad way. thing is its really easy to port the hair from one had to another. look up what moderns do for this game. mind yo the moderns do not have the tools the devs do.

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It's not a cheap excuse rofl the devs can't perform magic and I imagine it's pretty low on the priority list.

Also I am guessing that you mean modders, modding is totally different than implementing something server side into the game officially.
Just because modders can do something easily doesn't mean that the actual devs can that's not how it works.

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Originally Posted by Vencio

No reason at all to be restricted,

No logic needed,

Period,

Now please unrestrict this for variety & complexity’s sake!

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You can't say that without having a behind the scenes view, game dev isn't as simple as you might think that it is.
It's not about just checking a box or resizing things.

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when we as the one that make it so THE DEVS EBEN HAVE A JOB AND GEY PAYED

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Are you a programmer?

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Originally Posted by Bunnycake

Are you a programmer?

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this would be a 3D modeler's job.

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Are you a programmer?

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It doesn't involve just programming, and this is literally the least of the programmer's worries. The system is already there anyway, it doesn't take the programmer any more effort to add new objects. The 3D modelling team is the one you guys want to talk to.

Source: I myself am not a programmer, though I AM trying to get into a game dev course after finishing my Master's in a different area. I DO have acquaintances in the course I want to enroll in which have already voiced their opinions of such views in private, one of them being very specifically what's doable or not doable by either one department. Especially the programming\3D departments.

It doesn't mean they're not paid to do this either. Which they are. It's just a whole 'nother issue. They are also subject to the company's orders, so they can't up and do stuff on their own (except for that one time the dev team ALLEGEDLY worked behind Yoshida's back to give Viera and Hrothgar minor headgear items). They're also subject to company policies. But while it's not up to them, it IS up to Square Enix to make this decision, so it's less a critique toward their programmers and more the orders they should be getting.

Meanwhile for the people who want stuff like Au Ra hair and all that... you guys do know some shared hairstyles had to be adjusted from Miqo'te to, say, Roegadyn on account of human\non-human ears, yes? You guys want the tweaking or are you okay with clipping? And on that note, how do you feel about Hrothgar asking for the exact same thing, being okay with either one, yet being told a flat "no"? You think it's going to go any different for you all? Because if it does, first of all congratulations to all of you, and secondly it proves a massive double-standard.

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Originally Posted by SamsaraTrickstar

come one don't use this cheap excuses. i know you do nor mean it in a bad way. thing is its really easy to port the hair from one had to another. look up what moderns do for this game. mind yo the moderns do not have the tools the devs do.

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I'm not talking about fitting hair to heads, I'm talking about making them available in the menu. If the race-specific hairstyles are taking up slots 1-12 and the universal styles start at #13, it's not just a matter of unlocking the styles but, at the very least, creating new numbers for them at the end of the list.

(I would not be surprised if there is actually an upper limit somewhere to the amount of hairstyles they can add over the life of the game – otherwise I feel like they might be a bit more generous with multiple versions of things so they can get more mileage out of a single model. Like, instead of just the Wind Caller model they could have released three with different headbands and people would have spent three times as many coins collecting all the options. But instead they only add one.)

That said, races do seem to have different numbers of specific styles, so maybe there's a bit of leeway for opening some up.

while we're at it, can we not have clan restricted skintones? I know there's lore reasons, but there's already some NPCs running around with skintones not available in creation for their clan. I would love to have a Seawolf but with Hellsguard's reddish skin tones.

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I believe the real answer is that having restrictions just makes things more simple to work with. When you have to adapt something to each race, that's more work you gotta put in to make it look good (although those Hrothgar hairstyles...).

Some might argue that it gives races "uniqueness", and it does to the extent of "X race is unable to use Y race's hairstyle."

This seems kind of silly to me, however, for I've yet to find a reason why a certain race might not be able to style their hair in a certain way while another one could.

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there is not reason other that its what yoshi wants. the reason we cant glam what ever gear we want (jod restricted) is because yoshi think this way people can more easy know what job you are. do this sound logical in FF14? no it do not. so the hair is most likely the same reason. having restrictions just makes things more simple to work with is just not the case.

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It's not a cheap excuse rofl the devs can't perform magic and I imagine it's pretty low on the priority list.

Also I am guessing that you mean modders, modding is totally different than implementing something server side into the game officially.
Just because modders can do something easily doesn't mean that the actual devs can that's not how it works.

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its not magic its WORK. they just lazy out of it. thing is you need maybe 2 people to work on it and by the next patch its all be done. you make it WAY more hard that it is.

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Originally Posted by Bunnycake

Are you a programmer?

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in a way yes. works in the filed of electro optical communications

Reminds me of Warcraft 3 peons

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Originally Posted by SamsaraTrickstar

in a way yes. works in the filed of electro optical communications

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As someone actually in college for 3D design, please don't act like that's in any, way, shape or form the same. Also doesn't give you any sort of knowledge on what is actually going on.

It's not a matter of them being lazy, it's just not a priority. Small things like this are put on the backburner for whatever time isn't spent on major jobs such as any models needed for upcoming patch MSQ, new gear being put into the game (such as crafting/gathering gear, raid gear), things that players actually need to progress further in the game. Would more hairstyles and such be nice? Sure. But it's not going to prevent people from playing the game by not having them. They're also working on fem Hroth as far as I'm aware of, so the team they do have is probably already spread thin as it is.

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As someone actually in college for 3D design, please don't act like that's in any, way, shape or form the same. Also doesn't give you any sort of knowledge on what is actually going on.

It's not a matter of them being lazy, it's just not a priority.

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all i say is that i do know how to program things. as for 3d modeling , its the team that will make hairs fit new head not the programmers. now don't get me wrong when i say it not a hard work i don't mean it be here tomorrow. i can take patch or 2. as for it not a priority , that's strange take in that this is something people wanted for years.
now how long it will take you to make a new hair from 0?

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Originally Posted by SamsaraTrickstar

all i say is that i do know how to program things. as for 3d modeling , its the team that will make hairs fit new head not the programmers. now don't get me wrong when i say it not a hard work i don't mean it be here tomorrow. i can take patch or 2.

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I added more to my post. Might want to read that.

I think that the lady doth protest too much.

What's wrong with having some racial uniqueness?

Every hairstyle they've added since each race released has been unlocked.

I like racial hairstyles. I wish they'd add more because they tend to fit each race better when specifically made for them. Hairstyles designed for all look better on some than others due to scaling, positioning, etc.

I want femroe hair like Moenbryda has that femroes can wear. I think it would like nice on my Au Ra

I would love to have the braid updo that male miqote and female elezen have for my female miqote

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What's wrong with having some racial uniqueness?

Every hairstyle they've added since each race released has been unlocked.

I like racial hairstyles. I wish they'd add more because they tend to fit each race better when specifically made for them. Hairstyles designed for all look better on some than others due to scaling, positioning, etc.

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Agreed.

I know this is such an unpopular opinion but I’d also like to see more differences between the races, this includes: hairstyles, more racial outfits, different weapon c-poses and their battle stance, it would be interesting to see, at the moment I think they’re all way too alike.

But alas, most likely WAY too much work involved and would take a considerable amount of time to create.

Idk. I'm all in favor of race unique hair and clan skin tones. It's gives some sort of differentiation between the characters. Most players already wear the same crap. I'd at least like to keep SOMETHING unique

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Idk. I'm all in favor of race unique hair and clan skin tones. It's gives some sort of differentiation between the characters. Most players already wear the same crap. I'd at least like to keep SOMETHING unique

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Totally agree. I would personally like to see more racial distinctions and not less. I roll different alts to enjoy what each race has to offer.

Because they want the hairstyles be lore-related
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...78/unknown.png

I wish male AuRi had more choices of hair from other races other than the Dragon Ball Z hairstyle types lol

I wish all the other races had access to more DBZ-esque hairstyles lol. How else am I supposed to make a proper Super Saiyan, or any of the DQ characters that have spiky hair?

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Originally Posted by SamsaraTrickstar

what propose it serves? make all race specific hair be usable by all. why can t a mid lender use one of the anime hairs the au ra got or the the ou ra one from the elezen? then the hole badly managed way the new races got hairs need to go out the window. i know yushi likes to pretend make hair is hard and all bit come on we know moderns can do it in not that long time. when we as the one that make it so THE DEVS EBEN HAVE A JOB AND GET PAYED will stop pretend its ok and start be more demanding.
what you think of this?:confused:

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one particular race needs race specific hair, because it is the only way we'll get any hairstyles that dont result in a sudden and inexplicable lack of ears

Which would not exclude to get the hair...
It would mean SE had to put some effort in to make the hair looking right, on earless races as earraces as well.
When i see that hair dont respect the ears at all, then its just bad modelling... The hair have to flow around the ears... simple as it is. They have only to do so.