More information please

Well as topic says , if they want us to debate about how companies should be introduced i think more information is crucial .Right now we have no idea at all what companies truly are.

Something worth it's own forum it seems!

Hopefully the opening of this forum mean that we'll get more info about those soon.

I DEBATE THAT YES.

yoshi-p said he'll release info con companies right before patch 1.17. Let's wait

Here's hoping they still have plans for private/LS owned companies... the prospect of LS buildings and ships was one of the main exciting features of this game and everytime I mentioned it to friends they all said they would play if they had something like that in the game, done properly of course.

Company can be separate from LS and bigger. but I do want LS to have private building or house.

The next letter should be about Grand Companies.

Think its what patch 1.17a will be all about.

Granted that there will be more information forthcoming regarding Grand Companies. However, once SE is that far along the design cycle, it will be more difficult to include player suggested ideas.

To that end, perhaps one thread should be created that composites would little we do know about Grand Companies, so that everyone can get onto the same page.

Then, threads providing suggestions as to what features/capabilities Grand Companies could provide can be created, to provide 'pro-active' feedback about the things we'd like to see.

I agree with the previous posters that arguing about what GCs WILL be is kind of futile at this point.

The only thing that we do know about companies is that there coming.

There i just compiled all the collective knowledge that we have on the subject. Discuss

It was easy to infer a little more than that. It seems to me at least, companies are likely to be NPC controlled entities.

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Originally Posted by Aratharn

Here's hoping they still have plans for private/LS owned companies... the prospect of LS buildings and ships was one of the main exciting features of this game and everytime I mentioned it to friends they all said they would play if they had something like that in the game, done properly of course.

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I think you'll be let down. From the latest interviews it seems like companies might be led by NPCs. They may be nothing more than glorified Class Guilds. That might not be a bad thing if interesting mechanics and content are part of this system.

I would really like to see all of this crafting/harvesting combined into a large scale project for companies... like making our own boats/mog houses, etc...

I agree with others that I would like information released sooner, like atm it is apparent the devs know what company are going to be if they are going to be released soon. Why not tell the playerbase, give us something to look for, prevent over hype which has outraged parts of the community almost every update. That and the devs can get player feedback before it is even released.

I do not see any real positive of not releasing information to the community as soon as possible at this point, the letter are great but seeing something like "Side Quest", "Grand Company", or "4-8 man dungeons" does not really tell us anything about the content except a very very broad sense of what it will be. Player do not know what to expect so them make stuff up which ends up becoming the expectation of what it will really be or it leads to pointless fear of it being something they think will ruin the game, and then it turns into a real negative.

From what I have read in a past posting to Lodestone (http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...f018ec5fb504d2) companies will be player ran. I am not sure if they will do what they said they will do, but I am curious how they will implement them into the game. Like other players I would like to see DoL and DoH involved in making these companies and boats. Imo DoL and DoH are very boring and this would make for some excitement.

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Originally Posted by Poppa

From what I have read in a past posting to Lodestone (http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...f018ec5fb504d2) companies will be player ran. I am not sure if they will do what they said they will do, but I am curious how they will implement them into the game. Like other players I would like to see DoL and DoH involved in making these companies and boats. Imo DoL and DoH are very boring and this would make for some excitement.

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Can't really judge anything based on that update schedule anymore.

I think at least initially the Company system will be NPC-run.

Patch 1.17 is due at the end of March I believe, and I also believe Companies were to be talked about just beforehand. So I'd assume it'll be sometime next week.. God I hope so.

Also..


The new development team changed the entire direction of companies..

They're not player-run anymore.. This has been announced in a past post somewhere.

"Grand Companies of Eorzea".

Sounds epic.

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Originally Posted by Abraxai

Patch 1.17 is due at the end of March I believe

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That was the plan before the earthquake hit. Now its 1-2 weeks late.

We might see 1.16a at that time though.

Greetings everyone!

We know you're all anxious to learn just what this whole "Companies" thing is all about, and I know the dev. team is just as excited to tell you!

In "Letter from the Producer, VI" Yoshida stated:

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I had intended to announce this in a future letter, but we will release information regarding the Grand Companies of Eorzea (what were referred to as “public companies” in previous posts) just before patch 1.17 goes live. We are currently readying a page dedicated to this exciting new feature, and hope to have it up on the Lodestone shortly.

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With that in mind, we appreciate your patience leading up to the release of info! We can't wait to hear what you all have to say about Companies once we announce all the juicy details!

Sure does sound exiciting.

So, ever since i first read about "Companies" imma throw out some of my
speculations and thoughts about this.

I think companies will be something for High level classes,
this however seems rather odd because obviously rank 50 isnt the final level cap.

So ya i base my specualtions on high level classes, if it's for Mid/low level classes
im sure there would be some rewards of EXP /SP aswell, but for now im excluding that option.

So what could Companies possibly reward / offer high level players? (something to discuss)

Some ideas... - Possible Spoiler Alert -

Terratorial control?
Company rank / status?
Rare gear / items / materials?

Something tells me im getting close because of SE's previously
announcements saying something like Company owned houses / ships.

Besides that what do "Companies" usually do?

The Company:
Work as a team (Company) to build something together using the members crafting skills perhaps.
Battling monsters for area control, Company rank etc.

Company Crafting:
With the current crafting system in place, i see no reason for what i just wrote
above would not be connected with "Companies".
This might include craftable "Furnitures" for the "Company House",
maybe even Cannons for the "Company Ships" for example.

Company Battles:
Companies in Battlefield could be anything from offense to defense using ships (possibly sea battles)

Hamlet's:
And then there's "Hamlet's", im pretty sure those Stone-structures (Forts) in
Coerthas are "Hamlet's" and serve a purpose for defence, possibly for area-control.

Company Houses:
Well, dosent take a rocket scientist to figure this one out.
I dare to say this is the new "MH", but diffrent ofc, i just hope it get's more interesting.
Possibilty to have Company Meetings, share crafted items,
gear etc in a Company Bank-vault or something.(Much like WoW guildbank)
But not just for sharing, but maybe collecting building materials for a "Company ship" etc.

But hey...these are just pure speculation & ideas.

Now some of what i'd like to see:

* Company Banner (With Company Name on it, for the Company House)
* Some kind of Company "Tabard" / "Cape" (not like WoW's Tabard, they just lame)
* Company Vault / Bank
* Craftable furnitures. (obviously for the Company House)
* Some sort of in-game Calendar to set up Company events so members can sign up for ingame.
* Company Chocobos + Lance = CHARGE !!!! :p

Edit: Sorry for bringing up some WoW ideas, but it did have some great features.
And no i dont play WoW anymore, it got boring fast after 3 years.

Ninjarrrr Edit:
i hope my speculations didnt spoil anything, cuz hell i know as much as anyone else. lol

This is actually exciting to see the forums being updated with a section for us to discuss. This must mean it is close at hand, and I for one an watering at the mouth to see how The Grand Companies of Eorzea are introduced. With Six months since any really meaty content has been added I am hoping this is a big update and the beginning of the real reformation of XIV for the player base.

I just hope there more than just building cakes! :D

I'm actually a bit worried about how they will turn out. They were pretty specific in that post that was linked to in an earliers post, telling us that they were a special type of LS etc, they have also earlier been referred to as "player-run guilds".

However since the new dev team took over they've been very silent about this aspect of the game, which leads me to believe they have changed the direction of them. Also, what little info we have gotten points more to the companies being NPC run.

So what I'm worried about is that they have changed one of the old dev temas ideas that seemed really good and replaced it with something more generic. Hope I'm proved wrong though.

From my reading and understanding of the Company system it will be introduced as an NPC run system at time of release. But at this point we can only speculate on this until Yoshi posts a letter detailing company features and its place within eorzea.

Here is one:
Is it Company as in military company?
or
Is it Company as in a business?
or
Both?

I assumed it was gear toward to being more of a military company.. Give us some info Yoshi-P!

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

Greetings everyone!

We know you're all anxious to learn just what this whole "Companies" thing is all about, and I know the dev. team is just as excited to tell you!

In "Letter from the Producer, VI" Yoshida stated:


With that in mind, we appreciate your patience leading up to the release of info! We can't wait to hear what you all have to say about Companies once we announce all the juicy details!

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That's where a lot of us are confused. By "shortly" does he mean right before 1.17 or sometime in the next few days?

I think Grand Companies will be NPC run. Maybe later we'll get player run Companies.

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Originally Posted by Xatsh

I agree with others that I would like information released sooner, like atm it is apparent the devs know what company are going to be if they are going to be released soon. Why not tell the playerbase, give us something to look for, prevent over hype which has outraged parts of the community almost every update. That and the devs can get player feedback before it is even released.

I do not see any real positive of not releasing information to the community as soon as possible at this point, the letter are great but seeing something like "Side Quest", "Grand Company", or "4-8 man dungeons" does not really tell us anything about the content except a very very broad sense of what it will be. Player do not know what to expect so them make stuff up which ends up becoming the expectation of what it will really be or it leads to pointless fear of it being something they think will ruin the game, and then it turns into a real negative.

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I agree why hold back info from the community, it does make alot of ppl to start assuming, rumoring and over hyping the content due to a simple lack of info then when it comes out it ppl are dissapointed because its not as omg cool! as it was thought to be.. =/

Even if it's implemented later I wonder if our large PvE content will be added to the Grand Companies Of Eorzea.

I will say one thing, If "companies" turn out to be total horseshit and are more watered down fetch quest type garbage that any half a tard second grader could finish blindfolded, then I see a grim, grim future for ffxiv. This is something they NEED to get right the first time around. So very looking forward to seeing what they have planned for us.

EDIT: What I hope they do is release the info on what they have planned, then use a few months to obtain feedback from us before implementing anything.

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Originally Posted by Cogs

This is something they NEED to get right the first time around.

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Why?

What's important is how the game is shaped when the PS3 version is released. It doesn't matter how shitty or good Company system is during the transition period. They have months to expand on it even if it ends up being lackluster initially.

i say it needs to be little more then lackluster, ps3 players are only the half of us, the other half is here. but yeah i was excited thinking player run, and as i kept reading people started adding in there npc run 2cents and now i'm just like wtf worried.

guess we'll see though, can't wait to see what's in store for us. as i think bout it player run or npc run what would be the diff? i didn't expect the ship to be actually flown by us so maybe same thing?

Companies NEEDS to be good, is the first real update from the new team . So far all we have been given from the new team is tweaks and lite additions such as sp increase , simple quests and a agro icon that is completely out of place.

If companies fail to be "good" and polished.Then new team is as bad as the old team.Delay it more, show details , let people discuss , take ideas,test , test,test, few more test, polish polish polish ,, oh yea more polish.Then maybe , release.

If they bring yet another unpolished and unfinished substance lacking mechanic, then that only means the wait have been for nothing.It is more crucial than what people think.Its the very first real update from yoshida, not some "patch" to fix minor thins.

Hope they know what they doing.

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Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah

Why?

What's important is how the game is shaped when the PS3 version is released. It doesn't matter how shitty or good Company system is during the transition period. They have months to expand on it even if it ends up being lackluster initially.

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WHY??? because pc players already payed to get this game and many payed alot to meet the high standards and requirements your pc needs to run the game thats why how many I7 rigs were made not just for but mostly because of ffxiv and high hopes and expectations for it? that sh@t aint cheap, lmao thats why my friend!

No system launches perfect though I'll be very happy if Companies launch in a good state. Yoshida's stance on many issues is that he doesn't want to put it in the game unless it has a reasonable purpose. In one interview I believe he said he wanted to make sure players had some reason to interact with companies before putting them into the game. That alone puts him ahead of the old team I think.

If the company system launch doesn't go well at least we can influence it and give suggestions on improvements. Even if the launch of companies does go well, we can still offer suggestions so it's hard to lose here.

Betelgeuzah has a point though, no matter how things are now the big day is PS3 launch. That is the most important day in the past, current and future history of FFXIV as it is the game's second chance.

Betelgeuzah has a point though, no matter how things are now the big day is PS3 launch. That is the most important day in the past, current and future history of FFXIV as it is the game's second chance.[/QUOTE]

And when is the ps3 launch? you mean if there is a ps3 launch

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Originally Posted by Zkieve

Companies NEEDS to be good, is the first real update from the new team . So far all we have been given from the new team is tweaks and lite additions such as sp increase , simple quests and a agro icon that is completely out of place.

If companies fail to be "good" and polished.Then new team is as bad as the old team.Delay it more, show details , let people discuss , take ideas,test , test,test, few more test, polish polish polish ,, oh yea more polish.Then maybe , release.

If they bring yet another unpolished and unfinished substance lacking mechanic, then that only means the wait have been for nothing.It is more crucial than what people think.Its the very first real update from yoshida, not some "patch" to fix minor thins.

Hope they know what they doing.

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agree'd and i love your sig message lol i hate when ppl attack others for petty reasons such as that

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Originally Posted by Laughlyn

Sure does sound exiciting.

So, ever since i first read about "Companies" imma throw out some of my
speculations and thoughts about this.

I think companies will be something for High level classes,
this however seems rather odd because obviously rank 50 isnt the final level cap.

So ya i base my specualtions on high level classes, if it's for Mid/low level classes
im sure there would be some rewards of EXP /SP aswell, but for now im excluding that option.

So what could Companies possibly reward / offer high level players? (something to discuss)

Some ideas... - Possible Spoiler Alert -

Terratorial control?
Company rank / status?
Rare gear / items / materials?

Something tells me im getting close because of SE's previously
announcements saying something like Company owned houses / ships.

Besides that what do "Companies" usually do?

The Company:
Work as a team (Company) to build something together using the members crafting skills perhaps.
Battling monsters for area control, Company rank etc.

Company Crafting:
With the current crafting system in place, i see no reason for what i just wrote
above would not be connected with "Companies".
This might include craftable "Furnitures" for the "Company House",
maybe even Cannons for the "Company Ships" for example.

Company Battles:
Companies in Battlefield could be anything from offense to defense using ships (possibly sea battles)

Hamlet's:
And then there's "Hamlet's", im pretty sure those Stone-structures (Forts) in
Coerthas are "Hamlet's" and serve a purpose for defence, possibly for area-control.

Company Houses:
Well, dosent take a rocket scientist to figure this one out.
I dare to say this is the new "MH", but diffrent ofc, i just hope it get's more interesting.
Possibilty to have Company Meetings, share crafted items,
gear etc in a Company Bank-vault or something.(Much like WoW guildbank)
But not just for sharing, but maybe collecting building materials for a "Company ship" etc.

But hey...these are just pure speculation & ideas.

Now some of what i'd like to see:

* Company Banner (With Company Name on it, for the Company House)
* Some kind of Company "Tabard" / "Cape" (not like WoW's Tabard, they just lame)
* Company Vault / Bank
* Craftable furnitures. (obviously for the Company House)
* Some sort of in-game Calendar to set up Company events so members can sign up for ingame.
* Company Chocobos + Lance = CHARGE !!!! :p

Edit: Sorry for bringing up some WoW ideas, but it did have some great features.
And no i dont play WoW anymore, it got boring fast after 3 years.

Ninjarrrr Edit:
i hope my speculations didnt spoil anything, cuz hell i know as much as anyone else. lol

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so what u mean companie could be something like where your group will be a LS... do stuffs together like how laughlyn explain it... lets say a lil bit of PVP action? i mean when i was playin XI back on 05, we used to have ballista... where we used to kill our self lol... idk now... but hey if it something like that oh man i cant wait for it!! i mean that give us a great deal on working together as a group... or with ur group lets just say "linkshell"... lol i mean a lil of pvp action wont hurt u know hehehe

I am excited for companies! I have great hopes for this concept. Things that have been lacking in the LS could be fixed with these companies (guild bank).

Having a company store and other company owned living spaces, or outposts, give players a true feeling of ownership in the game.

Also it will really build on player teamwork.