So windows central just posted this article https://www.windowscentral.com/xbox-...sion=true&s=09 about the status of the Xbox port of FF14, a port I have been patiently waiting for since it was announced that xbox would be getting all of the modern FF titles ported over to it, and also stated that FF14 would be coming "later next year " (XO2019) until 2020 became what it is. It was safe to assume that an Xbox port would be justifiably pushed back until at the latest late 2021. So to hear news that there is no plans to port the game to Xbox, while the game is already on two other platforms with similar architecture to Xbox, is frankly un acceptable I'm my book.
Xbox FF fans deserve to be able to play the game as well. I play on PC, but want nothing more then to be able to play on my preferred platform with friends who would love to be able to play with me on that platform. We kept getting excuses after excuses as to why they can't port the game. First it was something to do with the games chat functionality not mixing well with Xboxs policies which was reported to be solved. Then it was the XBLG pay wall, which again has now been rectified. Now it's "we don't have enough recourse" FF14 I would argue is squares biggest and more profitable FF title due to the fact its a sub based MMO that charges for the base game and each subsequent expansion thats the equivalent of a full priced game. So forgive me if that excuse sounds like total BS.
I'm tired of Xbox FF fans being treated like dirt and second class citizens. There is no reason why the game can exist on the MAC of all places and not on Xbox. Hell the PC version supports Xbox controller button prompts. This is completely unacceptable in my eyes, and a total betray to consumers on squares part.
It's not like I am an outsider looking in either. I currently play on the PC, I have completed the whole current story from ARR to ShB on 1 main and 5 alts, and have almost completed it again on two more alts. I continue to support the game, and have for years now. So to see them forsake an entire potential playerbase with such a flimsy excuse is frustrating.
If Sega can port PSO2 not only to the west, but also to an entirely new platform, so can Square.
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02-18-2021, 06:13 AMGraylynRegarding this windows central article
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02-18-2021, 06:21 AMValkyrie_Lenneth
Look at Microsoft policies. They require a gold account for online (can get around, as some games have), but also "the ability for Xbox players to be able to play with only other Xbox players"
This here is the main issue. -
02-18-2021, 06:23 AMMPK
Plz no more console for xiv
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02-18-2021, 06:23 AMGraylyn
MS has already rectified this though with there new policy changes that should be coming out soon that removes the paywall for certain types of games. Also the article says that this isn't the current "problem"
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02-18-2021, 06:24 AMGraylynThe new generation of consoles are more then capable of running the game for a long time to comeQuote:
Originally Posted by MPK
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02-18-2021, 06:28 AMPMSJordan
I'm so mad about this that I ended up making an account for the forums here. I have soooo many Xbox only followers on Twitter who have been wanting to play this game for the longest time. They were extremely bummed when it wasn't announced with End Walker, and are furious at today's news. I don't blame them. In 2019 SE told Phil Spencer (Head of Xbox) that FFXIV was coming to the platform...Which was a lie apparently. SE is just skipping over an entire community of players right now for some weird reason. If they ported it Xbox they could help grow our community plus they would make money off Xbox people buying the game, expansions, subs, and in the cash shop! It makes no sense to me not to bring them into our community.
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02-18-2021, 06:31 AMValkyrie_LennethWell, this is what happens when Phil speaks without actually know what's going on.Quote:
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SE never said the game was coming to Xbox, only that they were in talks. Phil jumped the gun saying all modern titles were going to Xbox. -
02-18-2021, 06:32 AMGraylynRight! After hearing this news my FC mates got to listen to be rant for like a hour straight. And I'm still fumingQuote:
Originally Posted by PMSJordan
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02-18-2021, 06:33 AMGraylynThey specifically said it was coming later 2020Quote:
Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth
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02-18-2021, 06:33 AMValkyrie_LennethDo you have the source for this? I never heard thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Graylyn
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02-18-2021, 06:37 AMGraylynIt was an interview with IGN or GameSpot with Square and Xbox reps during XO2019 we were told all FF titles were being added and 14 later in the year of 2020(pre covid)Quote:
Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth
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02-18-2021, 06:38 AMBunniEclair
I’m a little surprised to see this given that apparently Xbox rewrote a lot of internal policies specifically for this game. I know that Xbox was making a lot of unusual demands in the beginning (chat, their own servers, the paywall) but it seems that even if those issues are solved now they just don’t have the manpower to expand to another platform right now.
At the end of the day I’m sure this was a hard decision for Yoship to make, but I’m glad he’s looking out for the team and fans alike. Square might have the money, but the FFXIV doesn’t have the manpower or time, it seems. Also I imagine trying to do this in time for the expansion with most of the staff being WFH due to Covid would probably be a nightmare. The game would suffer for it.
It’s not ideal, but I don’t think this is an excuse as much as a valid reason. Sorry though, OP. That sucks. -
02-18-2021, 06:38 AMValkyrie_LennethI remember only that xiv was in talks, with no real ground made. You'd have to link an article, because otherwise I think you read too much into it. Otherwise it would be common knowledge.Quote:
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02-18-2021, 06:39 AMPMSJordanWhy would you want to Gatekeep more people having access to the game? These new consoles are powerful and have the ability if the game supports it to use M&K. Plus it would help grow and expand our community.Quote:
Originally Posted by MPK
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02-18-2021, 06:43 AMGraylynNot wanting to step on your sympathies because I appreciate it. But I am a fan, so to me it dosnt feel like they are looking out for fans. Like I said I'm very frustrated that Xbox fans are being treated like second class citizens. So it feels very disheartening.Quote:
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02-18-2021, 06:45 AMGraylynUnfortunately I would have to dig deep to find the articles. Aside from just looking up the XO2019 interview. And I just don't have the time to do that digging right now.Quote:
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02-18-2021, 06:49 AMValkyrie_Lennethhttps://gamingbolt.com/final-fantasy...me-on-xbox/ampQuote:
Originally Posted by Graylyn
From July last year. Still nothing promising it coming to Xbox.
https://gamingbolt.com/final-fantasy...e-phil-spencer
The article you mentioned, was Phil saying it, with no date or basis. -
02-18-2021, 06:52 AMGraylynThanks for doing the digging. Since Phil is the head of Xbox his word carries a lot of weight. And we know that they were being pretty accommodating with policies in regards to the porting process.Quote:
Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth
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02-18-2021, 06:56 AMValkyrie_LennethYet, he is not square. He is not yoship. And he has only ever said "in talks" and "we'd like to". Never "it is coming" and certainly not "late 2020"Quote:
Originally Posted by Graylyn
You assumed something based on a thing Phil said. That's on you.
And it just took 5 seconds to "dig" "ffxiv Xbox late 2020".
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02-18-2021, 07:01 AMWhite_Wolf_XEh, not really.Quote:
Originally Posted by Graylyn
Unless it comes from SE ( Yoshida or the CEO ) them self, it don't carry much weight at all. -
02-18-2021, 07:07 AMGraylynThe head of a platform in direct talks with another publisher who has more knowledge said this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth
"In addressing the press at X019, Spencer said, "I wanted you to know, rest assured that we will be bringing that game [Final Fantasy XIV] to Xbox. We have a great relationship with Yoshida-san [FFXIV director] and we’re working through what it means to bring [to Xbox] a cross-platform MMO that they’ve run for years.""
This literally insinuates that it will be coming.
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02-18-2021, 07:08 AMGraylynIt literally does. Because these people would have more information then a PR rep or some low level employee. This is the head of one of the top three console platforms on the marketQuote:
Originally Posted by White_Wolf_X
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02-18-2021, 07:12 AMValkyrie_LennethInsinuates. No date, no promise. "we will bring it" not "we are bringing it"Quote:
Originally Posted by Graylyn
Things change. That's was over a year ago, and in July, you see what yoship said. At least 7 months later. -
02-18-2021, 07:14 AMWhite_Wolf_XAgain, that is only phil saying it. which could just be a PR stunt for all we know.Quote:
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02-18-2021, 07:29 AMFayt1203
the thing is that Ms was never going to change the policy, but when they planed to srap the 12 month sub and make the 6 month cost the same as the 12 month just to force people to sub for the gamepass peopel got mad. They only change the policy because people where pissed and its only for free 2 play games and last time i check Ff xiv is not Fp2
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02-18-2021, 08:20 AMAshgarthFor someone who's mad that they delayed Ultimate, you seem happy to cut the revenue of the game by about a half. That would surely help content development.Quote:
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02-18-2021, 08:29 AMPuremallace
Here let me make this simple
Japanese game developer develops for a Japanese game console maker. Stop making this more difficult then it needs to be. They are obviously favoring their home base of Japanese citizens over everyone else as that is the most popular console in Japan.
You guys can make whatever excuse you feel like but that is the harsh truth.
Why in gods name would Square Enix of all companies open the door to XBOX in Japan? Do you not understand anything about how Japan works and their national identity?
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02-18-2021, 08:35 AMJin-They probably meant that no more as in no more dumbed down gamesQuote:
Originally Posted by Graylyn
Proof? I'm willing to understand but without proof that sounds like a far fetched dreamQuote:
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02-18-2021, 10:09 AMwereotterThing is that after this long, it's fair to want the game on XBox, they did release both XIII and XV on XBox when those titles launched. So this isn't an issue of national favoritism or nationalism. PlayStation was supposed to be in the game since launch, and was added at ARR, at the time, XBox was considered as a platform to expand into as well, except they ran into, at least at the time, unreconcialbe differences. Square wanted XBox players to be able to access the game without also paying Microsoft for their online access, and Microsoft wanted separate servers so XBox players could play independently of PlayStation and PC gamers. While these may have been addressed since, this is why it wasn't done years ago.Quote:
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02-18-2021, 10:35 AMShofie
This is something you need to petition Microsoft about, since it's their policies holding back an Xbox FFXIV port, not SE. You'd essentially be paying two subscription fees to play XIV though, and you'd be in a bubble with other Xbox players because of no cross-platform support, so it's less than ideal, and 100% on Microsoft.
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02-18-2021, 11:03 AMPMSJordanMicrosoft’s cross play policy was fixed years ago. They have recently changed their gold requirements for F2P. And did you even read the article? Yoshi-P said they couldn’t port it anytime soon due to lack of resources.Quote:
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02-19-2021, 12:17 AMPMSJordan
Well a new interview with Yoshi-P came out today and he gives a better answer on the subject. After reading it I have more hope for an Xbox port. Maybe even as early as mid-late 2022 after they have some breathing room after End Walker. Link to the article:
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02-19-2021, 12:33 AMPMSJordanApparently that has nothing to do with it based off a new interview with Yoshi-P. The port might even happen in the future now after End Walker based on what he said. Link to the new article.Quote:
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02-19-2021, 12:49 AMDynnDiablosIt makes sense they want to focus on getting Endwalker completed and out on PS4/PS5 and PC prior to Xbox.Quote:
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02-19-2021, 05:44 AMTheCupOfBrewThat doesn't make sense, the game isn't dumbed down because of console. Why do people ignore the existence of low end pcs?Quote:
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I'm fairly certain they were being sarcastic.Quote:
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02-19-2021, 05:54 AMWhite_Wolf_XPS3 did hold the game back.Quote:
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02-19-2021, 09:52 AMPacketdancerIt's clearly meant to be able to be read that way—because Phil is first and foremost a PR guy at his heart—hence the "we will be bringing" statement, but look closely: when it comes to anything concrete, he just says they have a good relationship with the producer and that they're working through what would be entailed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Graylyn
That there's not a port coming for Xbox One X when there is for PS5 is disappointing. But so far as I know, there was never an outright commitment by Square confirming an Xbox port (nor even actual confirmation that Microsoft has finished revising the policies necessary to make it happen), just talk about how it'd be nice. So it's not like this is a delay or pushback on a planned/promised port, just a "yes, we'd like to do that, and it's something we can look into after Endwalker is out."
No doubt Square-Enix would like to make it work as well, because more players means more revenue. But nothing in this says there was a firm commitment from Square to such a port, much less any sort of release date set. -
02-20-2021, 02:24 AMwereotterPS4 explicitly does not. The developers have stated this directly. Sure, a high end PC can out perform a PS4, but they developers themselves now say that lower end PCs are what they're keeping in mind when restricting development in addition to the restrictions the crap code still in the game from 1.0 has place on the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by White_Wolf_X
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02-20-2021, 04:22 AMWhite_Wolf_XI know, point was really more if anything did hold the game back it would be PS4.Quote:
Originally Posted by wereotter
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02-21-2021, 03:17 PMStarshower
I really want the game to come to xbox, and I don't even own one! So many new people will come to the game, and maybe even new servers will open up! It will be amazing! the more peole can play the game, the healthier it will be! And with the restrictions on free to play and sub games being removed on the xbox side, nothing is stopping yoshi-p. In the interview he said they are focusing on releasing endwalker and the ps5 version, and that they will have time to work on the xbox version after that! Which is amazing news! The xbox players will be lucky too! their first interaction with the game will have the free trial up to heavensward and arr will be better to go trough than it wonce was thanks to the rework it got! Overall I'm excited to get more people to play with!