Puppets' Bunker motion sickness

Hey

Unsure this is the correct place to post this.

In the Puppets' Bunker alliance raid before the 3rd boss there are several corridors that you travel "down" and I honestly have never gotten a motion sickness headache so fast from anything else especially for the time spent in them.

I'm aware this isn't something that can be fixed (I'm going to just look away from my screen) but it would be nice for conisderation to be made towards this for the future.

I'm pretty sure, in part, its because the corridors are so bright there.

Thanks

How exactly did you get motion sickness from it? Its a third person game, and you're going down what is effectively a slide, not a centrifuge intended to train astronauts. If you get motion sickness from this, especially considering you can manipulate your camera however you like, and by default it stays at a constant height, it might be a good idea to see a doctor about this.

Rough thing about them making adjustments about motion sickness is that not everyone gets motion sickness the same way that does have it.

Have you tried filters for your screen to help with the brightness? I usually have my Night Light mode on when I'm on my comp due to anything bight just killing them.

It’s the same animation used for the ramp in The Burn, the water slide in Rabanastre and probably a lot of other duties. Nothing you’ve not experienced before but with a “bunker” background

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Originally Posted by Bacent

Rough thing about them making adjustments about motion sickness is that not everyone gets motion sickness the same way that does have it.

Have you tried filters for your screen to help with the brightness? I usually have my Night Light mode on when I'm on my comp due to anything bight just killing them.

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This, try fixing some of the filters on your screen and see if it helps. Also if you have reshade turned on with any filters that increase contrast turn that off immediately.

There's a warp point right after the sliding ramps... For warping to the third boss...

In an absolutely bid to avoid the ramps at all costs, you could use return to get back to start of the Raid, and then use the warp to get past the ramps.

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Originally Posted by Bacent

Rough thing about them making adjustments about motion sickness is that not everyone gets motion sickness the same way that does have it.

Have you tried filters for your screen to help with the brightness? I usually have my Night Light mode on when I'm on my comp due to anything bight just killing them.

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This is true... like I had no problem in Puppet's Bunker, but I always get motion sick in dungeons like Doma Castle where the water is moving but I am not. Sadly there's not a way to address this for everyone.

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Originally Posted by VenKitsune

How exactly did you get motion sickness from it? Its a third person game

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I get motion sickness from most games that use the Unreal Engine, even if it's in third person. Well at least in OP's case it's just one tiny section of the entire game and they don't need to be actively watching the screen at that moment. Still sucks when it happens though.

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Originally Posted by Penthea

I get motion sickness from most games that use the Unreal Engine, even if it's in third person. Well at least in OP's case it's just one tiny section of the entire game and they don't need to be actively watching the screen at that moment. Still sucks when it happens though.

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Same. I get motion sickness rather easily from games. MMOs thankfully typically have NOT given me troubles, but there are a few spots in XIV where I start feeling a bit off. Other games I can play for 20 minutes, even if third-person, and then get so sick I have to lie down for a couple of hours.

I get slight motion sickness from some things now in games. I personally didn't notice anything with the new raid.

I have more problems while talking though parts of the Alexander raids. Also the Dancer LB3 shaking bothers me a lot. Neither of those happen that often so I manage though.

I get motion sickness in 1st person view AND when the camera bobs up and down...(Looking at you Tomb Raider). Thankfully not as serious as OP.

I'm not sure if it's motion sickness or something else, but I have a hard time looking at open night sky/space, especially if it's under me (like during the phase change in E1). It makes me feel weird and I get vertigo or something. My solution to that? Just uh, don't look at it. Maybe tilt my camera up so I'm level or even looking up rather than down.

Luckily the sliding part in Puppets' Bunker is always in the same place every time, so you can just look away if you need to. It's good for other people who get motion sickness to be aware of it though, at least.

Every 1st person game, ever, even stuff from the early 90s, gives me horrible motion sickness.
3rd person generally doesn't, even if the environment generally moves the same. Something about generally focusing on my character, or the action *immediately* around her.
Those slides didn't for me - but they probably would have if we had to navigate around obstacles and enemies while falling down them.

It's a good thing to tell SE about; they've actually been responsive in the past; for example adding an option to turn off the hazy underwater effects.
As opposed to say, Blizzard, who responded by having their forum managers and 2 in-game NPCs mock people with motion sickness just prior to Legion.

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Originally Posted by Jennah

It's a good thing to tell SE about; they've actually been responsive in the past; for example adding an option to turn off the hazy underwater effects.

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They are terrible with people who have a fear of heights, though. =P

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Originally Posted by Ilenya

They are terrible with people who have a fear of heights, though. =P

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Well what's a fantasy adventure if you don't soar to new heights?

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Well what's a fantasy adventure if you don't soar to new heights?

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And the fifty billion times they make you jump down sheer cliffs? It's actually *really* annoying and I've been asking for them to stop since...3.3? Whenever Sohr Khai came out.

Byakko was the worst, FYI. I never want to see that fight again.

I get serious motion sickness doing Levi EX, to the point where I just can't run it anymore and if it ever pops up in my WT or Trials roul, I ignore it/leave and take the penalty. I'm fine right up until he tilts the boat, and then it's instant nausea

I'd seen the title of this thread prior to doing the raid and, now that I've done it, I was quite sure this was going to be about the third(?) boss - the one with the exploding pods - during the part when the walls are rotating but the floor is stable. I found that quite unpleasant and had to keep the camera focused down at the floor as much as possible.

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Originally Posted by Jennah

Every 1st person game, ever, even stuff from the early 90s, gives me horrible motion sickness.
3rd person generally doesn't, even if the environment generally moves the same. Something about generally focusing on my character, or the action *immediately* around her.
Those slides didn't for me - but they probably would have if we had to navigate around obstacles and enemies while falling down them.

It's a good thing to tell SE about; they've actually been responsive in the past; for example adding an option to turn off the hazy underwater effects.
As opposed to say, Blizzard, who responded by having their forum managers and 2 in-game NPCs mock people with motion sickness just prior to Legion.

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Im the same way, two minutes in a very situational awareness heavy first person game and I'm feeling like I'm coming down with a really bad flu, any more and I will have to lie down while I try to settle my stomach. It sucks cause I love shooters, but I can only play third person ones and those rarely ever get the love that first person ones get. :(
I usually can last about 45 minutes in a slower paced first person puzzler/walking sim, as long as I don't have to make any sharp camera motions. But, especially if the FoV is too low, I do it for too long and I WILL start to feel ill. I've interpreted the source of my sickness to the origin of the camera's pivot. If the camera pivots around a point in front of it, I'm fine, but if it pivots around a point behind it. I'm writhing on the floor.

The only time in this game that I've ever had my motion sickness triggered was in that one coil of bahamut floor where you're on that moving platform that jerks around in different directions. I had to stare at the floor for the duration cause it absolutely slaughered me. >.<

I previously got a faint wave of vertigo in Leviathan and Sophia fights, because of the tilting platforms. It's so bad in Sophia that I always give a disclaimer about it in the beginning.

I haven't done the raid yet, but good to know. Most things in games don't bother me, but some do - like - E6/Furor? Looking at the arena in the phase after Garuda and Ifrit merge genuinely makes me nauseous. The spinning and the bright garish colors are just. I can't think of a better word than nauseating.

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Originally Posted by Penthea

I get motion sickness from most games that use the Unreal Engine, even if it's in third person. Well at least in OP's case it's just one tiny section of the entire game and they don't need to be actively watching the screen at that moment. Still sucks when it happens though.

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Why specificall the unreal engine? The way textures pop in, perhaps? Thats one notable thing in unreal but otherwise i cant imagine why that'd be the case for you.

https://www.howtogeek.com/241285/why...n-do-about-it/ just in case anyone is interested as to why. Quick google search got me that, I don't get it myself, thought people might find it interesting reading.

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https://www.howtogeek.com/241285/why...n-do-about-it/ just in case anyone is interested as to why. Quick google search got me that, I don't get it myself, thought people might find it interesting reading.

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Thanks for that link! The field-of-view stuff is interesting. I didn't know they set it differently for PC and console games but that makes sense.

Generally speaking though, I've never liked first-person games exactly for that limited view and the feeling that you're looking down a tunnel. Third-person games give a much better approximation of how much of the world you can see around you - you know where your feet are; you can see something approaching you from the side.

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Originally Posted by VenKitsune

Why specificall the unreal engine? The way textures pop in, perhaps? Thats one notable thing in unreal but otherwise i cant imagine why that'd be the case for you.

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I honestly wish I knew. It's not exactly the sort of thing you could go to a doctor about. If I had a tremendous amount of money I probably would have tried to find out exactly why this happens to me. I do have a neurological condition but feeling ill from certain games or engines has been happening to me since long before that condition developed. I know other people who react similarly and they're otherwise perfectly healthy people.

The worst for me is the Source engine. Even if I'm watching someone else play my stomach turns if the player moves their camera too fast. I can't watch or play a game that uses that engine for more than five minutes. I end up feeling like I've been in a car for several hours and I need to lie down to recover. And no amount of messing around with FOV, camera and frame rate settings helps.

Because of this I can't play most first person games, and those that I can play have to be on console. Proximity to the screen also affects how badly I react but with some games or engines it doesn't matter how far I am from the screen, I cannot watch them without quickly feeling very ill.

I have tried to train myself to be able to play these games but it's hard to push through when you feel ill so quickly and it takes about an hour to feel okay again. I just gave up and accepted that there are some games I have to entirely avoid.

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Thanks for that link! The field-of-view stuff is interesting. I didn't know they set it differently for PC and console games but that makes sense.

Generally speaking though, I've never liked first-person games exactly for that limited view and the feeling that you're looking down a tunnel. Third-person games give a much better approximation of how much of the world you can see around you - you know where your feet are; you can see something approaching you from the side.

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I know, I find it really interesting as well, how the brain's wired, and why we respond the way we do to certain stimuli :) I'm scared of heights, some parts of games would give me vertigo, yet oddly enough in Ffxiv, I barely have no issues. For example, I can do the new Leap of Faith, and the Kugane tower no problem.