Do Miqo'te have four ears? Or just two?

Like.

There are cat ears on top of their heads, right?

But I noticed that all their hairstyles are long enough to cover where their "human" ears would be.

So.

Are there another pair of ears down there?

Or is there just a flat patch of skin where their human ears would be? Is that what Square is hiding from us?

Please help thanks.

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Originally Posted by Arcadious

Like.

There are cat ears on top of their heads, right?

But I noticed that all their hairstyles are long enough to cover where their "human" ears would be.

So.

Are there another pair of ears down there?

Or is there just a flat patch of skin where their human ears would be? Is that what Square is hiding from us?

Please help thanks.

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Flat skin, they only have 2 ears, this means glasses kinda just balance on their nose

No, they only have 2 ears, the ones on top of their head. Shorter male hairstyles emphasize this. The main reason it probably "grows" that long is there is nothing to get in the way, unlike our "human" ears

Okay so then does anyone know what a bald Miqo'te looks like? Surely they're not born with anime hair.

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Originally Posted by Arcadious

Okay so then does anyone know what a bald Miqo'te looks like? Surely they're not born with anime hair.

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Most likely kids already have some fur on the head, just as little kitties and, more or less common, newborn human children do.

Presumably they'd look like a bald human, but with cat ears.

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Originally Posted by Arcadious

Okay so then does anyone know what a bald Miqo'te looks like? Surely they're not born with anime hair.

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Not every animal is bald at birth. Some humans even have hair at birth. Cats I believe have their hair when they are born.

https://bigmemes.funnyjunk.com/comme...a65bb84239.jpg
This helpful infographic helped me understand.

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Originally Posted by Arcadious

Okay so then does anyone know what a bald Miqo'te looks like? Surely they're not born with anime hair.

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Nightmare Fuel :p:

https://i.imgur.com/N6HDW1K.png

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Originally Posted by Jillian

Nightmare Fuel :p:

https://i.imgur.com/N6HDW1K.png

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This is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you!

And that right there is why we dont see Miqote without hair on the side. Damn, right in my uncanny valley.

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Originally Posted by Arcadious

Are there another pair of ears down there?

Or is there just a flat patch of skin where their human ears would be? Is that what Square is hiding from us?

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Prettymuch this. It probably looks a bit unsettling if you can actually see that the otherwise-human-looking character doesn't have ears where they 'should' be, so covering it up stops it from being so noticable.

There are a number of shorter styles (eg. Kai-Shirr's) where there's clearly not enough hair to hide human ears if they were there.

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Originally Posted by Jillian

Nightmare Fuel :p:

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So... interesting thing with those. It looks like the inner ear is part of the body model but the fur on it is part of the hair.

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Originally Posted by ReiMakoto

Flat skin, they only have 2 ears, this means glasses kinda just balance on their nose

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I used the 'contemporary pince-nez' glasses on my Miqo'te character for exactly this reason. Other glasses still have the arms going to where the human ears would be, which doesn't make sense.

I just assume they (and Viera and Hrothgar, for similar reasons) use hair clips or a headband to hold glasses.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

I used the 'contemporary pince-nez' glasses on my Miqo'te character for exactly this reason. Other glasses still have the arms going to where the human ears would be, which doesn't make sense.

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That depends on the glasses and hairstyle. My IRL glasses have a hingeless design so the arms are made of flexible metal. They apply slight pressure to the sides of my head when worn. I don't even notice it really, but it's enough that if I push the arms a little bit up from behind my ears they'll stick there and don't fall down unless I vigorously shake my head or jump up and down or something. If I stick them behind my hair they'll stay on just as well as they would sitting behind my ears. Then there's also the possibility of attaching them to the hair with clips. So I think normal eyeglasses make perfect sense with most miqo'te hairstyles.

Question to Miqo'te players: Does knowing that your character is hiding a scary little secret make you enjoy them any less? More?

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Originally Posted by Arcadious

Question to Miqo'te players: Does knowing that your character is hiding a scary little secret make you enjoy them any less? More?

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What secret? It was pretty clear from the start that's how they're structured.

I have a few Miqo'te characters, and I'd already noticed they were like that. I just picked hairstyles that didn't make it too obvious.



Now, since you're over that revelation, if you have a closer look at Au Ra....

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Originally Posted by Arcadious

Question to Miqo'te players: Does knowing that your character is hiding a scary little secret make you enjoy them any less? More?

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My scary little secret has nothing to do with ears.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Now, since you're over that revelation, if you have a closer look at Au Ra....

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Oh no. Why did you do this to me.

Don't look too closely. You don't want to draw our attention.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

I just assume they (and Viera and Hrothgar, for similar reasons) use hair clips or a headband to hold glasses.

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I tape them to my face.

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Originally Posted by Arcadious

Oh no. Why did you do this to me.

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You're welcome. :P


Apparently their horns function as ears, picking up sound vibrations. At a practical game-design level, it seems to be so they don't need specially designed hats.

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Originally Posted by Arcadious

Question to Miqo'te players: Does knowing that your character is hiding a scary little secret make you enjoy them any less? More?

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Which secret exactly..? The fact there is only one pair of ears was pretty much obvious with all short haircuts.
Also... hard to not enjoy the race that can so lovely wiggle their ears. I can't say for sure about female characters, but ask any male Miqo'te to show you /joy emote and you will see. And that how a lot of our emotes are.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

It looks like the inner ear is part of the body model but the fur on it is part of the hair.

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Yes, and the skin part also changes color with the skintone. Same for Viera.


Also, I absolutely don't get what's weird about not having ears on the side of your head when they are already on the top of it. It would be much, much weirder if they had four ears. Animals that have their ears on the top of their heads are normal as well, aren't they? But maybe I'm just already used to anime-like characters with animal features.

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Originally Posted by Limonia

Yes, and the skin part also changes color with the skintone. Same for Viera.


Also, I absolutely don't get what's weird about not having ears on the side of your head when they are already on the top of it. It would be much, much weirder if they had four ears. Animals that have their ears on the top of their heads are normal as well, aren't they? But maybe I'm just already used to anime-like characters with animal features.

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I think the weird part would be how the ear canal and everything works on a human head. Granted, I'm no expert in human biology.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

I just assume they (and Viera and Hrothgar, for similar reasons) use hair clips or a headband to hold glasses.

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What about headphones for stereophonic dance music?

It didn't look as weird with FF11 Mithra because Mithra were more feline than human. Miquote are literally just Hyur/Hume with cat ears and a tail. They don't have feline eyes, nose, or fur on their skin.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...20130407184400
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...20100212054159

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Originally Posted by Limonia

I absolutely don't get what's weird about not having ears on the side of your head when they are already on the top of it.

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https://bigmemes.funnyjunk.com/comme...a65bb84239.jpg

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Originally Posted by Arcadious

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And it doesn't look weird. It's not what we used to see, yes, but weird? Not really.

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Originally Posted by MrKusakabe

What about headphones for stereophonic dance music?

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They'd need custom-made ones.

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Originally Posted by Jonnycbad

It didn't look as weird with FF11 Mithra because Mithra were more feline than human. Miquote are literally just Hyur/Hume with cat ears and a tail. They don't have feline eyes, nose, or fur on their skin.

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Seekers of the Sun have cat pupils. Mooncats don't, but have more pronounced fangs instead.

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Originally Posted by MrKusakabe

What about headphones for stereophonic dance music?

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Skull bones, if you consider that miqo'te internal ear structure somewhat resembles the human one.

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Originally Posted by Jonnycbad

It didn't look as weird with FF11 Mithra because Mithra were more feline than human. Miquote are literally just Hyur/Hume with cat ears and a tail. They don't have feline eyes, nose, or fur on their skin.

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I'm not too bothered by it though - they still don't look quite human with their facial markings and cat-eyes. It's a bit odd, and it does bug me at a theoretical level if they're supposed to have evolved from a human ancestor - but it doesn't look that strange in itself.

It's definitely dependent on the hairstyle as well. The shorter ones draw more attention to the fact their human ears are 'missing'. (I'm not keen on the one they used for Kai-Shirr - the proportions just don't look right to me. I think it's designed around the human ear shape too much.)

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Seekers of the Sun have cat pupils. Mooncats don't, but have more pronounced fangs instead.

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Technically Keepers have cat pupils as well - just dilated, like cats' eyes in low light. A neat detail between the (theoretically) diurnal and nocturnal clans.

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Originally Posted by Limonia

Yes, and the skin part also changes color with the skintone. Same for Viera.

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Yeah, I've noticed that with my characters - it's a nice detail. I'd just assumed the ears were fully built into the hair and were programmed to reference the skintone setting.

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Originally Posted by MrKusakabe

What about headphones for stereophonic dance music?

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I think headphones (I assume you mean the big "earmuff" types) would need to be really customised for a race with higher ear placement. Maybe they still have the same headband shape but the bits at the ends are just pads to help support it while the actual headphones are mounted higher on the band. Or maybe you need more of a hat structure, or something that ties under the chin...

Earbuds are probably easier. They seem fine with linkpearls, however those physically work.


...what do you mean, I'm overthinking this?

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Earbuds are probably easier. They seem fine with linkpearls, however those physically work.

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You know, considering the cutscene in Crystarium in Markets where they showed how they "sell technologies thar resemble the homeland of Crystal Exarch" (or how they worded it) and also recent "Allagan Tomestone of Frivolity" tabletop furnishing item, not to mention the emote for using Companion App, I feel that linkpearl is pretty much just a smartphone.

There is a chance they didn't really think about it back in the past, looking at the animation that we see when somebody calls us in cut scenes, and changing it later was probably out of question, but looking at how the story goes, it really does feels like linkpearl is just a normal phone.

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Originally Posted by Halivel

You know, considering the cutscene in Crystarium in Markets where they showed how they "sell technologies thar resemble the homeland of Crystal Exarch" (or how they worded it) and also recent "Allagan Tomestone of Frivolity" tabletop furnishing item, not to mention the emote for using Companion App, I feel that linkpearl is pretty much just a smartphone.

There is a chance they didn't really think about it back in the past, looking at the animation that we see when somebody calls us in cut scenes, and changing it later was probably out of question, but looking at how the story goes, it really does feels like linkpearl is just a normal phone.

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Finally someone else sees it like I do. xD

I always pictured linkpearls as like, a Bluetooth headset. Something you could clip to your ear whether it was a human ear or not. :P

I remember doing that ARR quest where you're supposed to put on earplugs to deal with the siren at Pharos and immediately questioned how the heck an Au Ra would use them.

Miqo'te just have weirdly positioned ears but it would take something like custom-fitted earmuffs to drown out sound for an Au Ra.

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Originally Posted by Avidria

I always pictured linkpearls as like, a Bluetooth headset. Something you could clip to your ear whether it was a human ear or not. :P

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Has sense. It definitely is more practical during the battle going around, than searching for a phone laying somewhere in bottomless pocket.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

I remember doing that ARR quest where you're supposed to put on earplugs to deal with the siren at Pharos and immediately questioned how the heck an Au Ra would use them.

Miqo'te just have weirdly positioned ears but it would take something like custom-fitted earmuffs to drown out sound for an Au Ra.

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It's more a guestion about what part of the horn exactly functions like ear. I think they actually answered this back in the past, but I don't remember if it's the base of the horn that catches the sound (so the "normal" ear zone) or the whole horn functions as one.

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Originally Posted by Halivel

It's more a guestion about what part of the horn exactly functions like ear. I think they actually answered this back in the past, but I don't remember if it's the base of the horn that catches the sound (so the "normal" ear zone) or the whole horn functions as one.

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Since we have no idea how Au Ra sleep, but we have been informed that their horns "molt" it might be okay to presume that the main functioning part is towards the base of their skull. But similar to the differences between regular human ears, the extended "bone" probably helps them to understand their surroundings better. It should be noted that they don't necessarily have better hearing, but better spacial recognition. Something that horns IRL help other animals with as well.

How ever Au ra sleep we know it's not like how we humans do.. matter of fact. I don't think Miqo'tes sleep like us either. Think about this, they can't. The tails will get in the way. They need seats and beds that are made just for them due to those tails. They have BONES in there :O