[1.21 Boss fight are nice... But don't they feels a bit "Old styled" ? And in 2.0...]

I really hope that with 2.0 fights will become more dynamic and less static...
Ifrit was a good start, but the current engine/servers (action lock/lag ) made it annoying... Those fight compared to it feels too much "Old styled" ...

These are simply tank&spank and essentially everyone is in static positions (or so) ...then some adds pop ... nothing much to do.. simply nuke them asap..

I think that Chimera could be really more fun if the sand vortex where random pop...
Same with the thunder cloud.. What about to make it pop on the head of someone, so the poor unlucky guy needed to move from thunders before he die standing there? No, you simply have to found your godlike area, where nothing happens, and simply spam your actions till the boss die...

Or what about the mistress? To make she more different from normal morbols, they could program something like, that at a certain % she starts to put her tentacles in the ground, then a cloud of powder pops under 3-4 or even the whole party! So you have to move asap if you don't want her tentacles impaling you, by entering from your a$$ and exiting from the mouth.. :P

After all this waiting, i hoped in better, i like them of course (Coincounter "fresher").. But these Bosses (dungeon and trash it self are nice) could be really better with some action moves..

Even if my english isn't that great, i hope that i gave you the idea of the fights that i want to see in 2.0!

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Ifrit was a good start, but the current engine/servers (action lock/lag ) made it annoying...

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This. They tried to make a dynamic fight but it got marred by the game's faulty server/engine.

So they decided to stick to basics this time around. I don't blame them either. These 2 new dungeons are basically crowd pleasing content fillers. Nothing wrong with that.

I doubt we'll see anything truly dynamic until the 2.0 engine is released.

p.s a friend of mine that played with me (in order) XI, WoW, XIV months ago before ifrit , and now SWTOR, just saw the videos of the bosses.. And the first thing that he said to me on ts was: This looks so slow and boring compared to: "insert any new or even old games"

So i wasn't the only thinking it (not boring imho btw .. but still slow and static.. )

What do you think?

cool story bro

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Originally Posted by Richard_BG

cool story bro

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So Mr/Miss BG LS member, like how slow and static are these "new" fights? Even if they are a stepback in game style compared to the old good Ifrit?

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> complaining in a complain forum.

> this thread is new and exciting.

You were completly off topic already with your first reply, if you don't are interested to thread, why you replied ?
Simply don't post if you don't have anything to say about the topic no? =')

I said that i like these new dungeons, but they could be better, and i explained why imho. This isn't constructive?

.. Uhm.. did SE pay you to be white knight ? :/

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Originally Posted by Denmo

This. They tried to make a dynamic fight but it got marred by the game's faulty server/engine.

So they decided to stick to basics this time around. I don't blame them either. These 2 new dungeons are basically crowd pleasing content fillers. Nothing wrong with that.

I doubt we'll see anything truly dynamic until the 2.0 engine is released.

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Finally someone that understand me (and much more ppl too i think ) \o/

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Originally Posted by Dragonheart

.. Uhm.. did SE pay you to be white knight ? :/

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lol

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Originally Posted by Richard_BG

lol

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I hope that in bg you're the only one like this :/ ... i liked them since FFXI and i don't wont break the good old memories .. Funny that you can only reply with lololol cause you know that you were completly wrong..

Don't worry bro, I still love you ^^ <3

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Originally Posted by Dragonheart

So Mr/Miss BG LS member, like how slow and static are these "new" fights? Even if they are a stepback in game style compared to the old good Ifrit?

http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/3015/arfkm.png

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You say about how ifrit was exciting, and about the good old ifrit but then you go on to say about how it was marred with problems with server lag, you answered your own question about why they went back to pre-ifrit.

SE need to test the 2.0 server client before they use it, the problem isnt only with the physical servers, the server side software will be to blame as well, so the problems with ifrit cannot be solved until 2.0.

Your thread makes no sense because you state a problem and then state the answer to said problem within a few posts.

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Originally Posted by Delsus

You say about how ifrit was exciting, and about the good old ifrit but then you go on to say about how it was marred with problems with server lag, you answered your own question about why they went back to pre-ifrit.

SE need to test the 2.0 server client before they use it, the problem isnt only with the physical servers, the server side software will be to blame as well, so the problems with ifrit cannot be solved until 2.0.

Your thread makes no sense because you state a problem and then state the answer to said problem within a few posts.

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I never said that Ifrit was exciting lol ... I simply stated that it was a good start, but afflicted by the problems that we all know... I'd expected something like him, but better designed to those new fight... Not an huge stepback by making tank&spank boss... Those were good in XI 5,6,7..10 years ago.. But not in 2012. Even batraal (yeah before ifrit) was more dynamic.. at least you had to turn off lamps, and the tank had to move him away...

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know that you were completly wrong..

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I've said: "cool story bro" "complain in a complain thread" "this thread is new and exciting" and "lol"

where does this indicate you and I have had a discussion with opposing sides in anyway? Calm down broseph before you crap your pants.

I'm very calm, but i see you're a bit nervous :/ ... Take:

http://www.cureendometriosis.com/wp-...ile-Plants.jpg

p.s your replies were all off topic... As i asked before, why did you post if you weren't interested? The only answer that i can imagine is: raising post count to get more fabulous medals :*) ? (almost 4 a.m good "night" <3 )

i like flowers

I agree we should play with each other sometime.

It's just a classic style. No more valid than new.
Just think of it as variety.

Yeah the server side and input lag and whatever else is wrong needs to be fixed before they keep expanding on the dynamic fights you're hoping for. Otherwise they'd just be drawing more attention to it.

You wouldn't believe how much the "no casting while moving" change has messed with me due to server lag. I'm used to not casting while moving from other MMO's, especially when I've played healer. I take advantage of it by just having a constant heal being cast and interrupting it by taking a single step when I don't need it. But because of the input lag/animation lock/whatever, my heal goes off unnecessarily. The same issue that affects me doing this affects you enjoying more dynamic fights. It's a foundational thing. We won't see improvement til 2.0, I'm afraid.

I really hope that with the new engine/server , the situations will become really better... "other games" has raid with at least 6-7 (or even more) bossess all different, with different strategy and moves.. Where of course you don't stand in a safe point and spamm your abilities... Chimera is very disapointing imho.. :/

Sorry, I've gotta dissagree. I've had more fun on the job/af quests in this game than in any other MMO. We need quests like them added to the game.

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Originally Posted by Gramul

It's just a classic style. No more valid than new.
Just think of it as variety.

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Indeeeeeeeeed. There must be classic style fights, nothing wrong about them, actually are enjoyable. The Aerum Vale and Cutter's Cry are a challenge as a dungeon, and have hard classic boss fights. Enjoy them!

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

Sorry, I've gotta dissagree. I've had more fun on the job/af quests in this game than in any other MMO. We need quests like them added to the game.

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Yup, but you can clear af/job quests in 2-3 days... And then? Where you use your af? I'd like to see many other boss.. and not only 2 per dungeon ;)

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Originally Posted by Dragonheart

Yup, but you can clear af/job quests in 2-3 days...)

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So what? The quests are designed to be completed by all so that everyone can get the abilities for each job. They are easier by design, but are still slightly more difficult than your average encounter. The quests are a means to an end. SE has hit the nail on the head with the job/af quests. We'll get more dungeons and primals in the game eventually, the job/af quests were never intended to be as difficult as those and rightly so.

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Originally Posted by Dragonheart

I never said that Ifrit was exciting lol ... I simply stated that it was a good start, but afflicted by the problems that we all know... I'd expected something like him, but better designed to those new fight... Not an huge stepback by making tank&spank boss... Those were good in XI 5,6,7..10 years ago.. But not in 2012. Even batraal (yeah before ifrit) was more dynamic.. at least you had to turn off lamps, and the tank had to move him away...

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The problems with Ifrit arent because its badly designed, its the problems with the servers, and latency.

Thats why you see people powesliding because on thier screens they are well clear of the eruption, but the server thinks they are ontop of it so they die, then the server realises they had moved, thus making thier body powerslide across the arena, with the current servers they CANNOT add fights like Ifrit or we will have these problems, the only way they can fix it is making the window to move about 10 secs, then come 2.0 the fights will be super easy.

All we need is just one massive end-game area after 2.0 that takes months to complete. Good old sky and dynamis, but more innovative and exciting. They can do it

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Originally Posted by Zahak

All we need is just one massive end-game area after 2.0 that takes months to complete. Good old sky and dynamis, but more innovative and exciting. They can do it

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^ this! Yes 100% agree. High lvl camps for item/currency farms yes please :D

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Originally Posted by AreeyaJaidee

^ this! Yes 100% agree. High lvl camps for item/currency farms yes please :D

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Oh please, no more grinding things.. Character growing based on grinding is enough imho...

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Originally Posted by Richard_BG

> complaining in a complain forum.

> this thread is new and exciting.

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So are completely unoriginal posts like this one you clown. He isn't even trolling, merely asking for what others think about the boss fight system and ways to improve it. If you don't have any useful input to this thread, or any thread for that matter based on your other posts, then STFU.

OP: I think that they are fairly limited with what they can do on this current server system. I am hoping once 2.0 is released we will begin to see more dynamic fights and less instances.

As others have said, the current server setup just won't work for Ifrit-esque fights.

Besides, they just released jobs, new recipes, and two new dungeons complete with some boss fights. That's a lot of stuff for a single patch...

So are you really complaining that they didn't do enough in that patch?

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Originally Posted by Biggs

So are completely unoriginal posts like this one you clown. He isn't even trolling, merely asking for what others think about the boss fight system and ways to improve it. If you don't have any useful input to this thread, or any thread for that matter based on your other posts, then STFU.

OP: I think that they are fairly limited with what they can do on this current server system. I am hoping once 2.0 is released we will begin to see more dynamic fights and less instances.

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I <3 Mr. Biggs :3

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Originally Posted by Biggs

So are completely unoriginal posts like this one you clown. He isn't even trolling, merely asking for what others think about the boss fight system and ways to improve it. If you don't have any useful input to this thread, or any thread for that matter based on your other posts, then STFU.

OP: I think that they are fairly limited with what they can do on this current server system. I am hoping once 2.0 is released we will begin to see more dynamic fights and less instances.

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so mad QQ

looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

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Originally Posted by BeePee

As others have said, the current server setup just won't work for Ifrit-esque fights.

Besides, they just released jobs, new recipes, and two new dungeons complete with some boss fights. That's a lot of stuff for a single patch...

So are you really complaining that they didn't do enough in that patch?

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Nono, i'm not complaining! As i said more than one time, i really like the new dungeons itself! They are well designed (except for time imho) Venomous rooms, sand vortex teleport, team split are very cool and new ideas! But compared to all these fun things, the Bosses are a stepback! .. I hope that i gave the idea this time ^^"

another nice thing that i noticed, is that frogs in aurum will trow you in the venom pools, a pt member is died in this way yesterday.. funny thing :D

Up, this video explain what i mean with "old styled" .... This looks kinda boring and lame (10 mins of spamming action and magic in the same SAFE point.. fun? ) As i said in the main post, it was so hard to let sand trap, spawn random in the whole area..? Or to make pop the thunder cloud random on 1 member of the pt? so This didn't penalyze the ranged vs melee war? I don't think that 2.0 engine/servers were needed for this... *mumble mumble*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB30O...710GL65NHoPqw=

Take a look and comment pls ;)

uhm so everyone is ok with the video mechanics :D ? Just curious..