old school ffxi players?

so are all the ffxi players spread out or do we have a server or specific linkshells that are out there still running there shells like linkshells and not guild'ish. just wondering if i should be trying to transport to a specific server to get that ffxi feel?

also are there linkshells running like ffxi still or at least plan on it when more real meaty endgame that takes more then 8people are out? have a feeling a lot of shells even the larger ones will sink when anything that takes more the 16people comes out. so if there are really strong linkshells that plan on playing this game for years or ffxiv's life time already out there? lot of shells are gaming communities, they don't last like hnmls's did and kinda what i'm looking for.

I know people in my LS who played FFXI but non of use played it together. Before this game launched I logged back into my old account to see if any of my ffxi friends were sill there. The only ones that were still active decided to stick with that game. There are a lot of people from the phoenix server I lost contact with. I always wondered if they're playing FFXIV somewhere.

you mean more loosely ran that "guilds" like in WoW or what not?

Besaid > now Balmung I can speak for: has a fair number of ffxi vets, not sure if it has more or less than any other server though.

Selbina have a big % of ffxi players most of the players i ask them why they join is because it's a FFXI name but really there FFXI in any world.

Well obviously... Selbina/Ridill.

Only like 2% of our linkshell did not play endgame XI, and I imagine most shells here are the same way.

Selbina always had the XI feel, when other servers whined and whined about there being no groups I flamed the crap out of them for not knowing how to find/create a party not realizing that Selbina just plain has it better than the rest of the servers.

Every PUG I have been in, granted they weren't all perfect, but every PUG has had the XI feel. On selbina when you invite someone to a party you can expect them to stick around until it forms even if it takes an hour +, and then expect them to stay around long enough to make it worthwhile. If they don't they usually find a rep for themselves. Selbinians know party etiquette.

Selbina PUGs moogles, and all other content long before it was cool on other servers.

There are a few bad apples, but there were in XI too. Selbina is the best server in FFXIV by far, and Ridill will be too.

Old school RoZ->CoP era FFXI or bust!

Just look for the largest concentration of these:

http://i48.tinypic.com/ocpe9.jpg

No Chuck Norris joke or something to go with your gratuitous meme picture post?

You are a credit to the internet. Well done.

played as Roscobel on Diabolos for quite some years.

I can confirm Selbina has a very high percentage of former xi players. I know very few people there who didn't play xi, in fact in my linkshell I can think of only one. The most well represented servers seem to be sylph and siren although Ive seen players from nearly all servers.

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Well obviously... Selbina/Ridill.

Only like 2% of our linkshell did not play endgame XI, and I imagine most shells here are the same way.

Selbina always had the XI feel, when other servers whined and whined about there being no groups I flamed the crap out of them for not knowing how to find/create a party not realizing that Selbina just plain has it better than the rest of the servers.

Every PUG I have been in, granted they weren't all perfect, but every PUG has had the XI feel. On selbina when you invite someone to a party you can expect them to stick around until it forms even if it takes an hour +, and then expect them to stay around long enough to make it worthwhile. If they don't they usually find a rep for themselves. Selbinians know party etiquette.

Selbina PUGs moogles, and all other content long before it was cool on other servers.

There are a few bad apples, but there were in XI too. Selbina is the best server in FFXIV by far, and Ridill will be too.

Old school RoZ->CoP era FFXI or bust!

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No Chuck Norris joke or something to go with your gratuitous meme picture post?

You are a credit to the internet. Well done.

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I laughed.

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On selbina when you invite someone to a party you can expect them to stick around until it forms even if it takes an hour +

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and thats a good thing?

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so are all the ffxi players spread out or do we have a server or specific linkshells that are out there still running there shells like linkshells and not guild'ish. just wondering if i should be trying to transport to a specific server to get that ffxi feel?

also are there linkshells running like ffxi still or at least plan on it when more real meaty endgame that takes more then 8people are out? have a feeling a lot of shells even the larger ones will sink when anything that takes more the 16people comes out. so if there are really strong linkshells that plan on playing this game for years or ffxiv's life time already out there? lot of shells are gaming communities, they don't last like hnmls's did and kinda what i'm looking for.

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I think as far as the old school ffxi players are concerned we are really just sticking to where our friends are at. I am a 7 year ffxi vet myself and server hopping because my ffxi friends and I got scattered at launch because of servers being full and unable to get on them but didnt want to restart. As far as I know there is no specific server for a large group of vets gathering to my knowledge.

I think the XI vet population in XIV is far larger than any other...

I was/am Ticks and Bosko on Unicorn - maybe we can find our old friends through this thread^^

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and thats a good thing?

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Yes, it is. Patient players with attention spans are good.

there is alot of players from shiva that is on Cornelia/Durandal server

Why are there just so many blatant anti-FFXI trolls in this thread? The forums are not the place to seek attention, for that go to your mother's house.

I played XI, First on Fairy, then on Sylph. Played for about 5 years over 2 characters, all 20 jobs between the levels of 22~89 and every expansion up to Heroes of Abyssea. I started XIV when my linkshell (PureInsanity) started talking about moving to this game. Ironically, because of the bad start, most chose to stay with XI, and of the few who did move, several apparently quit, one was forced to quit due to a hacked account, and one I ran into once months later, and never saw again.

I continued to play XI off and on for about 5~6 months after XIV started, and let my account run out due to RL issues, never got around to renewing it because of the billing changes. I'm somewhat tempted to renew just to see old friends.

I think every server has a healthy amount of FFXI vets.

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Why are there just so many blatant anti-FFXI trolls in this thread? The forums are not the place to seek attention, for that go to your mother's house.

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I don't think people have as much of an issue with FFXI itself, as perhaps with certain type of players, regardless the MMO. Could be wrong. . . .

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Yeah you are real cool buddy.

Because you have the whole story.

Like I said... credit to the internet.

It was in fact a life or death emergency for your information and I posted that as I say in that post simply to get the GM's attention faster. I don't know if that tactic worked or not, I certainly wouldn't recommend it to anyone else. But I was in a desperate situation where I felt I had to do whatever I could to act. (which was obviously limited by my only relation to this person being as a fellow player in an online game).

Fortunately the GM's did respond to me in time. They called the police. For everyone who says the GM's in this game do nothing, they are wrong. I didn't have a whole lot of faith in them, but they came through. I could care less about what you think, and I risked getting banned on a game that I have played and enjoyed since beta. People are what are really important, not characters in a game or "forum reputations". This is just a trivial video game, and I'm glad to see that there are real human beings working for SE customer support who actually have the capacity for human empathy.

Unlike hopeless internet trolls like yourself, who contribute nothing and are just a drain on this community. Posting idiotic meme's on the internet, and screenshotting any little piece of drama you can find so that you can somehow give yourself whatever minor ego boost that manages to give you by regurgitating it at the first opportune moment. Oh man, you must feel so smart, so accomplished. What a talent you possess.

Is this really your life? This is really what you do with your time?

I play this game to have fun, I post on this forum because this game is a passion for me and I care about its development. Unlike you I don't relish in such drama, this was an extremely unfortunate incident which I certainly never foresaw or expected from my interactions in an online video game. It wasn't something I wanted, but when faced with it I had no choice as a sensible human being but to act. You having no insight come here and attempt to ridicule me based on it, I don't know why. Perhaps we had a disagreement about this video game in the past? So you felt the need to screenshot that and put it in your forum trolling ammunition folder.

I feel completely justified in what I did, if I offended you with some minor profanity I apologize, but the end result justified the means. To think that you think that is somehow an attack on XI players. I don't know what "identity" you ascribe to, WoW-tard or 4chan troll or whatever. But if you are a representation of that community, I'll take my XI elitists any day. We may be passionate about the game, but at least we aren't senseless mindless trolls who would trounce all over people's real life emotions and troubles to get a cheap laugh, so crass and recklessly ignorant that you would only find it here... on an anonymous trivial internet forum.

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Yes, it is. Patient players with attention spans are good.

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I know... But no one "enjoys" waiting hours for a party to start
It Alienates the players who only have a couple hours after they get off work

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I think the XI vet population in XIV is far larger than any other...

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FFXI vets are by far some of the most helpful people in FFXIV
There are some who are loud and pretentious but the same can be said for any demographic
Unfortunately... from a business standpoint... you don't want FFXI players to be the majority on a server... because that means you are way less than a million subs total.

Its such a mixed boat... on one hand, I want SE to make a game that completely caters to my play style... nothing wrong with that

On the other I do think they should be allowed to make a game that they think will bring in tons of people... they aren't doing this for kicks, ya know?

And that's where I think the small minority of FFXI vets that are douchebags really give the whole group a bad name....
This small subset that thinks SE should make every aspect of the game to appease them because they've been playing SE MMO's for 8 years
when the truth is... in business... more effort always goes into attracting new customers

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I know... But no one "enjoys" waiting hours for a party to start
It Alienates the players who only have a couple hours after they get off work



FFXI vets are by far some of the most helpful people in FFXIV
There are some who are loud and pretentious but the same can be said for any demographic
Unfortunately... from a business standpoint... you don't want FFXI players to be the majority on a server... because that means you are way less than a million subs total.

Its such a mixed boat... on one hand, I want SE to make a game that completely caters to my play style... nothing wrong with that

On the other I do think they should be allowed to make a game that they think will bring in tons of people... they aren't doing this for kicks, ya know?

And that's where I think the small minority of FFXI vets that are douchebags really give the whole group a bad name....
This small subset that thinks SE should make every aspect of the game to appease them because they've been playing SE MMO's for 8 years
when the truth is... in business... more effort always goes into attracting new customers

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SE is doing both. As they should. They are in the entertainment business, and are selling subscriptions. So customer loyalty is as important as new business.

I don't see FFXI players demanding "every aspect be like XI" simply that we be allowed to enjoy the same things we did in XI, I don't see anything wrong with that. FFXI was a different kind of MMO, and it was very popular with a lot of people. I doubt that FFXIV would have sold as many copies at launch as it did without the positive experience so many people had with FFXI.

But this thread isn't about that. This thread is about the community that FFXI fostered, one which FFXI veterans feel was pretty unique to that game. Some disagree, but as someone who has played a lot of MMO's (and enjoyed more than just FFXI) to say that there is not a stark difference between the community found in FFXI in 2002-2005, and WoW for example at anytime in its existence would be pretty hard to argue.

I don't know if it was the game itself, or the fans that made it that way. That could be debated endlessly, but I know that I feel very lucky to have found so many people who played FFXI on Selbina. As they have made a very positive impact on my enjoyment of this game which I would not be playing without Selbina's community.

So in my opinion the game may have made us that way, and if so Kudos to SE for managing to accomplish such a feat of creating close knit communities in what is generally a cesspool, describing the internet community at large (at least the trivial, entertainment community side). But this game was no FFXI at launch, so I would have to say it is possible to recapture some of that community feeling just by finding others who once shared it.

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I know... But no one "enjoys" waiting hours for a party to start
It Alienates the players who only have a couple hours after they get off work

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I don't understand. I took Murugan's post as "if it takes x amount of time to get a group for something, you're most likely to be able to get a group for it on Selbina as players on that server will stick around the longest while the party forms." I'm new to the game, so I don't personally know if Selbina players are actually more patient, but thats how I understood his comment. Wouldn't the alternative be that you wouldn't be able to form a group at all? I don't think he was saying that he preferred that it take hours to get a group formed.

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SE is doing both. As they should. They are in the entertainment business, and are selling subscriptions. So customer loyalty is as important as new business.

I don't see FFXI players demanding "every aspect be like XI" simply that we be allowed to enjoy the same things we did in XI, I don't see anything wrong with that. FFXI was a different kind of MMO, and it was very popular with a lot of people. I doubt that FFXIV would have sold as many copies at launch as it did without the positive experience so many people had with FFXI.

But this thread isn't about that. This thread is about the community that FFXI fostered, one which FFXI veterans feel was pretty unique to that game. Some disagree, but as someone who has played a lot of MMO's (and enjoyed more than just FFXI) to say that there is not a stark difference between the community found in FFXI in 2002-2005, and WoW for example at anytime in its existence would be pretty hard to argue.

I don't know if it was the game itself, or the fans that made it that way. That could be debated endlessly, but I know that I feel very lucky to have found so many people who played FFXI on Selbina. As they have made a very positive impact on my enjoyment of this game which I would not be playing without Selbina's community.

So in my opinion the game may have made us that way, and if so Kudos to SE for managing to accomplish such a feat of creating close knit communities in what is generally a cesspool, describing the internet community at large (at least the trivial, entertainment community side). But this game was no FFXI at launch, so I would have to say it is possible to recapture some of that community feeling just by finding others who once shared it.

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I don't understand. I took Murugan's post as "if it takes x amount of time to get a group for something, you're most likely to be able to get a group for it on Selbina as players on that server will stick around the longest while the party forms." I'm new to the game, so I don't personally know if Selbina players are actually more patient, but thats how I understood his comment. Wouldn't the alternative be that you wouldn't be able to form a group at all? I don't think he was saying that he preferred that it take hours to get a group formed.

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I know... and I would wait for the party... but I wouldn't be happy about it

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I don't understand. I took Murugan's post as "if it takes x amount of time to get a group for something, you're most likely to be able to get a group for it on Selbina as players on that server will stick around the longest while the party forms." I'm new to the game, so I don't personally know if Selbina players are actually more patient, but thats how I understood his comment. Wouldn't the alternative be that you wouldn't be able to form a group at all? I don't think he was saying that he preferred that it take hours to get a group formed.

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No, it is about being considerate.

Whether you play 2 hours, or 6-8, what always defined expectation in XI (and there were people who played XI on tight schedules that did not allow them marathon sessions), you should be considerate of the other people in the group who also took their time to form and go out there.

Most people I have met on Selbina, especially but not only those who came from FFXI exhibit that type of considerate attitude towards others. It makes a world of difference in playing with others, and might be why so many non-FFXI players in other MMO's today seem to gravitate away from grouping and towards soloing. Which is a real shame, because that is never how I think MMO's were envisioned to be played.

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Yeah you are real cool buddy.

Because you have the whole story.

Like I said... credit to the internet.

It was in fact a life or death emergency for your information and I posted that as I say in that post simply to get the GM's attention faster. I don't know if that tactic worked or not, I certainly wouldn't recommend it to anyone else. But I was in a desperate situation where I felt I had to do whatever I could to act. (which was obviously limited by my only relation to this person being as a fellow player in an online game).

Fortunately the GM's did respond to me in time. They called the police. For everyone who says the GM's in this game do nothing, they are wrong. I didn't have a whole lot of faith in them, but they came through. I could care less about what you think, and I risked getting banned on a game that I have played and enjoyed since beta. People are what are really important, not characters in a game or "forum reputations". This is just a trivial video game, and I'm glad to see that there are real human beings working for SE customer support who actually have the capacity for human empathy.

Unlike hopeless internet trolls like yourself, who contribute nothing and are just a drain on this community. Posting idiotic meme's on the internet, and screenshotting any little piece of drama you can find so that you can somehow give yourself whatever minor ego boost that manages to give you by regurgitating it at the first opportune moment. Oh man, you must feel so smart, so accomplished. What a talent you possess.

Is this really your life? This is really what you do with your time?

I play this game to have fun, I post on this forum because this game is a passion for me and I care about its development. Unlike you I don't relish in such drama, this was an extremely unfortunate incident which I certainly never foresaw or expected from my interactions in an online video game. It wasn't something I wanted, but when faced with it I had no choice as a sensible human being but to act. You having no insight come here and attempt to ridicule me based on it, I don't know why. Perhaps we had a disagreement about this video game in the past? So you felt the need to screenshot that and put it in your forum trolling ammunition folder.

I feel completely justified in what I did, if I offended you with some minor profanity I apologize, but the end result justified the means. To think that you think that is somehow an attack on XI players. I don't know what "identity" you ascribe to, WoW-tard or 4chan troll or whatever. But if you are a representation of that community, I'll take my XI elitists any day. We may be passionate about the game, but at least we aren't senseless mindless trolls who would trounce all over people's real life emotions and troubles to get a cheap laugh, so crass and recklessly ignorant that you would only find it here... on an anonymous trivial internet forum.

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You are a child.

edit: unnecessary insult to children. You have serious issues buddy. Why do you even care?

Not that the judgement of someone like you should matter to anyone but:

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/3241/suicide3a.jpg

You are the pathetic one here. Me and my shell are positive influences on this community. We have fun playing together, we are good at this game, and we reach out to and are involved with the community on Selbina. There was an incident with an individual who had real life problems and that unfortunately evolved into the incident you feel the need to troll me based on even though any normal person would not have gone to the lengths to screenshot a thread that was deleted only minutes after it was created just so they could use it against someone in a forum for a video game.

It had nothing to do with this game, or our shell, or me personally. It only happened by chance to play out via in-game communication and because of that I had to involve the GM's because unlike you I am a person who isn't a total sociopathic monster just because I happen to be on the internet.

But I'm sure you will just laugh at this whole episode and post another stupid meme, and for that I feel sorry for you. You are a pitiful excuse for a human being. My condolences to your mother.

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You are a child.

edit: unnecessary insult to children. You have serious issues buddy. Why do you even care?

Not that the judgement of someone like you should matter to anyone but:

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/3241/suicide3a.jpg

You are the pathetic one here. Me and my shell are positive influences on this community. We have fun playing together, we are good at this game, and we reach out to and are involved with the community on Selbina. There was an incident with an individual who had real life problems and that unfortunately evolved into the incident you feel the need to troll me based on even though any normal person would not have gone to the lengths to screenshot a thread that was deleted only minutes after it was created just so they could use it against someone in a forum for a video game.

It had nothing to do with this game, or our shell, or me personally. It only happened by chance to play out via in-game communication and because of that I had to involve the GM's because unlike you I am a person who isn't a total sociopathic monster just because I happen to be on the internet.

But I'm sure you will just laugh at this whole episode and post another stupid meme, and for that I feel sorry for you. You are a pitiful excuse for a human being. My condolences to your mother.

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I'm dying of laughter here... Someone better call the cops for me, I'm incapable of doing it myself.

What is your problem?

Are you trying to imply that I should have called the police myself? I don't know this person in real life, I only know them in game. The only thing I could do was call a GM. Seriously why are you still trolling me?

I imagine if it was you this had happened to you would have simply sent them a trollface.jpg and laughed it up in Ul'dah. Why are you like this? Any normal, rational, decent person sees someone in imminent danger and they act. It's not a big joke just because it happens to play out in such a trivial medium like a video game.

These are real people you are talking about, and yeah the guy had some problems (you didn't know him at all) but that doesn't give you a right to be such a dick. Do you really feel no shame at all for how you act online?

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What is your problem?

Are you trying to imply that I should have called the police myself? I don't know this person in real life, I only know them in game. The only thing I could do was call a GM. Seriously why are you still trolling me?

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What is your problem?

Are you trying to imply that I should have called the police myself? I don't know this person in real life, I only know them in game. The only thing I could do was call a GM. Seriously why are you still trolling me?

I imagine if it was you this had happened to you would have simply sent them a trollface.jpg and laughed it up in Ul'dah. Why are you like this? Any normal, rational, decent person sees someone in imminent danger and they act. It's not a big joke just because it happens to play out in such a trivial medium like a video game.

These are real people you are talking about, and yeah the guy had some problems (you didn't know him at all) but that doesn't give you a right to be such a dick. Do you really feel no shame at all for how you act online?

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What does the screenshot actually say? It's too small. I can only make out something about wrists being cut.

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Well obviously... Selbina/Ridill.

Only like 2% of our linkshell did not play endgame XI, and I imagine most shells here are the same way.

Selbina always had the XI feel, when other servers whined and whined about there being no groups I flamed the crap out of them for not knowing how to find/create a party not realizing that Selbina just plain has it better than the rest of the servers.

Every PUG I have been in, granted they weren't all perfect, but every PUG has had the XI feel. On selbina when you invite someone to a party you can expect them to stick around until it forms even if it takes an hour +, and then expect them to stay around long enough to make it worthwhile. If they don't they usually find a rep for themselves. Selbinians know party etiquette.

Selbina PUGs moogles, and all other content long before it was cool on other servers.

There are a few bad apples, but there were in XI too. Selbina is the best server in FFXIV by far, and Ridill will be too.

Old school RoZ->CoP era FFXI or bust!

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we are awesome :D maybe to awesome O.o

i set my transfer to you guys on selbina so lets hope the legends are true lmao. sounds like the place i want to be. tyvm for the direction to server.

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Yeah you are real cool buddy.

Because you have the whole story.

Like I said... credit to the internet.

It was in fact a life or death emergency for your information and I posted that as I say in that post simply to get the GM's attention faster. I don't know if that tactic worked or not, I certainly wouldn't recommend it to anyone else. But I was in a desperate situation where I felt I had to do whatever I could to act. (which was obviously limited by my only relation to this person being as a fellow player in an online game).

Fortunately the GM's did respond to me in time. They called the police. For everyone who says the GM's in this game do nothing, they are wrong. I didn't have a whole lot of faith in them, but they came through. I could care less about what you think, and I risked getting banned on a game that I have played and enjoyed since beta. People are what are really important, not characters in a game or "forum reputations". This is just a trivial video game, and I'm glad to see that there are real human beings working for SE customer support who actually have the capacity for human empathy.

Unlike hopeless internet trolls like yourself, who contribute nothing and are just a drain on this community. Posting idiotic meme's on the internet, and screenshotting any little piece of drama you can find so that you can somehow give yourself whatever minor ego boost that manages to give you by regurgitating it at the first opportune moment. Oh man, you must feel so smart, so accomplished. What a talent you possess.

Is this really your life? This is really what you do with your time?

I play this game to have fun, I post on this forum because this game is a passion for me and I care about its development. Unlike you I don't relish in such drama, this was an extremely unfortunate incident which I certainly never foresaw or expected from my interactions in an online video game. It wasn't something I wanted, but when faced with it I had no choice as a sensible human being but to act. You having no insight come here and attempt to ridicule me based on it, I don't know why. Perhaps we had a disagreement about this video game in the past? So you felt the need to screenshot that and put it in your forum trolling ammunition folder.

I feel completely justified in what I did, if I offended you with some minor profanity I apologize, but the end result justified the means. To think that you think that is somehow an attack on XI players. I don't know what "identity" you ascribe to, WoW-tard or 4chan troll or whatever. But if you are a representation of that community, I'll take my XI elitists any day. We may be passionate about the game, but at least we aren't senseless mindless trolls who would trounce all over people's real life emotions and troubles to get a cheap laugh, so crass and recklessly ignorant that you would only find it here... on an anonymous trivial internet forum.

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I don't know what a meme is, I'm not hip like that... Cool story bro.

If you ended up really saving someone, your right, you did the right thing.