Thank you for screwing me with ''''free transfer'''' stuff SE

Why am I angry?

I'm trying to server transfer.

What's wrong?

I have a ceremony invite.... in my SUSPENDED RETAINER. One that I haven't paid for in like 3 years now.

I can't change servers without paying SE for this utter BS. So thank you SE for not giving us an option to just flat out delete the invites and making me have to pay to remove it, when I wasn't even aware that I had the invite on that retainer.

You could have cleared out that retainer's inventory before it expired.

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Originally Posted by Rongway

You could have cleared out that retainer's inventory before it expired.

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Hindsight is 20/20

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Originally Posted by Rongway

You could have cleared out that retainer's inventory before it expired.

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Read it again, it was three years ago. Probably at a time before transferring was even a considered thing so

have you even tried contacting a GM about it or just immediately go to the snarky complaining?

I mean, depending in when your sub date is, retainers are prorated. You may not even have to pay more than a few cents lol.

It's also a lot cheaper to sub a retainer to grab something real quick than it is to transfer servers.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

I mean, depending in when your sub date is, retainers are prorated. You may not even have to pay more than a few cents lol.

It's also a lot cheaper to sub a retainer to grab something real quick than it is to transfer servers.

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They force you to pay for it for as long as you have subbed currently. So that was $8 in forced retainer payment because my sub expires on July 25th.

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Originally Posted by Nihility

have you even tried contacting a GM about it or just immediately go to the snarky complaining?

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My experience with GMs is that they'll just tell you to sub as they can't do anything. At best, you might get a one-off item amendment, but that's one item for the entirity of your time with the account.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

I mean, depending in when your sub date is, retainers are prorated. You may not even have to pay more than a few cents lol.

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Minimum pro-rata in the UK is £1. Won't be charged any less than that, even if the pro-rata would come to less than that.

why didn't you just go to the wedding though?

Also how come the "free" server transfer requires you to subscribe to the game on these dead months of nothing between expansions?
It's not even free server transfer, just discounted server transfer, for the vast majority of players that realize there's been nothing going on since Alphascape and use their sub money wiser than paying for housing afk simulator.

Then don't transfer yet. Pointless to pay $15 to save $17 if you aren't actually playing at the moment.

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Originally Posted by Aramina

Then don't transfer yet. Pointless to pay $15 to save $17 if you aren't actually playing at the moment.

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Logic is in short supply at times :x

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Originally Posted by Lacan

why didn't you just go to the wedding though?

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What, you never heard of someone saving an extra wedding invite from their own wedding as a souvenir?

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Originally Posted by Aramina

Then don't transfer yet. Pointless to pay $15 to save $17 if you aren't actually playing at the moment.

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I had to pay $8 because my fiance, and a bunch of friends I play with (Many of which are playing catch up from only just having resubbed since 4.15), were jumping to another server and I wanted to play with them. Also I never said I wasn't playing. I log in daily to work on things in game

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

Logic is in short supply at times :x

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So I'm seeing from people making many assumptions here.

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Originally Posted by Bacent

Rant

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They didn't screw you over. They didn't put items in your retainers.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/CanineOldG...in-max-1mb.gif

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

Logic is in short supply at times :x

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So it would seem!

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Originally Posted by Bacent

What, you never heard of someone saving an extra wedding invite from their own wedding as a souvenir?

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A souvenir you left forgotten on a retainer you don't even pay for anymore?

Sounds like you're trying to find excuses for a problem you yourself created.

Its in their world transfer guide too. No offense, but it's your fault for not looking into into.

And if it was a sentimental keepsake, why was it on a retainer you didn't care about enough to let go for 3 years. Doesn't sound very sentimental to me.

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...nsfer_service/


Your character must not be logged out in the Ivory Chapel.
Your character and its retainers cannot be in possession of a ceremony invitation or blank invitation.

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Originally Posted by Pallero

Also how come the "free" server transfer requires you to subscribe to the game on these dead months of nothing between expansions?
It's not even free server transfer, just discounted server transfer, for the vast majority of players that realize there's been nothing going on since Alphascape and use their sub money wiser than paying for housing afk simulator.

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It's almost like they are giving an incentive to people currently playing their game. Not everyone leaves when nothing new is happening. I haven't taken a break in over 3 years, and that was only due to moving to the entire opposite side of the country.

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Originally Posted by Pallero

Also how come the "free" server transfer requires you to subscribe to the game on these dead months of nothing between expansions?
It's not even free server transfer, just discounted server transfer, for the vast majority of players that realize there's been nothing going on since Alphascape and use their sub money wiser than paying for housing afk simulator.

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Shockingly enough, you have to actually be playing the game to use a service in the game.

For what it's worth, I do feel get the annoyance of having to purchase an extra retainer again just to clear out an invitation that you had no idea would affect a transfer. I'm sure many of us have some random item that we've totally forgotten about stashed away on a retainer somewhere. And why do invitations not just poof after the event date anyway? However, I think your title and approach were probably not the best way to garner any sympathy from the forums. :X

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Originally Posted by Bacent

What, you never heard of someone saving an extra wedding invite from their own wedding as a souvenir?

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Literally never. Also why can't the ring act as a souvenir?

Contact a GM. They may be able to help you with this. I agree that this is a silly issue that shouldn't exist, but you are being a bit hostile. SE didn't screw you over. They didn't force you to keep the invitation nor did they make you store it on a paid retainer.

Sounds like you messed up yourself, and are looking to blame SE.

Dude, you made a mistake; own it. You don't have to pass all the blame to SE. Maybe now you can take this time to clean/re-arrange your storage on those extra retainers and fire them, if you don't plan on using them.

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Originally Posted by Robert_Ilcri

Read it again, it was three years ago. Probably at a time before transferring was even a considered thing so

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I read it fine the first time and my post is no less true for it. If one doesn't want things getting locked on a retainer that one isn't going to continue to pay for, one should take things out of that retainer's inventory before the retainer lease expires.

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Originally Posted by Youkulm

They didn't screw you over. They didn't put items in your retainers.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/CanineOldG...in-max-1mb.gif

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I dunno, why did they make it so you cannot transfer servers when there's an expired wedding invitation? Something something spaghetti coding.
Plus OP wouldn't know that the invitation stops server transfers, it isn't written on the invites, and it doesn't tell you when you get it.
It's not uncommon to have expired retainers with stuff on them, usually people have crafting stuff on those, and only re-new them when they want to go on a crafting spree.
A wedding inv. can easily get lost in the mess.

Y'all piling too much hate on the OP on this one.

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Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

I dunno, why did they make it so you cannot transfer servers when there's an expired wedding invitation? Something something spaghetti coding.
Plus OP wouldn't know that the invitation stops server transfers, it isn't written on the invites, and it doesn't tell you when you get it.
It's not uncommon to have expired retainers with stuff on them, usually people have crafting stuff on those, and only re-new them when they want to go on a crafting spree.
A wedding inv. can easily get lost in the mess.

Y'all piling too much hate on the OP on this one.

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Don’t need to go all out against SE, if is his fault. Instead of going on a rant, he should consider suggest something or give a idea. And not come to the forum to spread hate.

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Originally Posted by Bacent

What, you never heard of someone saving an extra wedding invite from their own wedding as a souvenir?

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Do that on a rl wedding. In game you already have a bird, a glam, a cake, a ring with the date. And if it was so important, don't leave it in an extra retainer and blame SE for your mistake.

lol it's the funniest thing I've read today.

Was the wedding nice at least? Wishing you and your SO lots of love and happiness!

Never hired any additional retainers. Have you not tried releasing the retainer with one of the Retainer Vocates? Could work if there aren't any funky prerequisites. You'll likely lose/discard all the items however.

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Originally Posted by programcanaan

Never hired any additional retainers. Have you not tried releasing the retainer with one of the Retainer Vocates? Could work if there aren't any funky prerequisites. You'll likely lose/discard all the items however.

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You can't release a retainer if there's any items in said retainer. And I think you have to have an active subscription for it to be able to release it.

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Originally Posted by Paladinleeds

You can't release a retainer if there's any items in said retainer. And I think you have to have an active subscription for it to be able to release it.

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That's gotta suck

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Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

Y'all piling too much hate on the OP on this one.

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From what I can see, it's mostly because of his attitude and his refusal to take personal responsibility. The OP isn't exactly "wrong" for having expired retainers holding sentimental items (which was so sentimental he forgot it existed...), but this isn't SE's fault or problem either. The guideline for retainers clearly lays out that you can't access them if you stop paying for them so it's not like SE pulled a sneaky on him.

This thread would have been better received if it was a calm, collected PSA about not storing important items on paid retainers, but instead he decided to make it a diatribe.

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Originally Posted by ElHeggunte

This thread would have been better received if it was a calm, collected PSA about not storing important items on paid retainers, but instead he decided to make it a diatribe.

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Prettymuch this - Square Enix is offering a free transfer, evidently with some necessary rules about items that can't be taken cross-server. It's an inconvenience but it's hardly "screwing him over".

It's unfortunate that in this case it means paying to resubscribe the extra retainer to access that 'long-term storage', but that's only happened because we're allowed to let retainer subscriptions lapse in the first place.


Most likely the invitations are banned from transfer because they're not programmed to recognise which server they were issued on - under normal circumstances there'd be no need for it, so if all it records is "let this person into the chapel at 3:00 on Wednesday" and then you move to a different server still carrying that instruction... well, you've just got a ticket to crash a random person's wedding. Or possibly the game if there isn't actually a wedding scheduled for that time but you try to go in anyway, and it turns out the game can't handle that.

An old 'keepsake' invitation isn't going to risk that of course, but they probably just have to block the item in general, or haven't considered that people might keep expired ones.

(Nothing wrong with keeping it for sentimental purposes but storing it on your last, least-accessed retainer, by the way. It's still there and not thrown out. Not much different to putting a real-world keepsake in a box in the back of the cupboard.)

Just so you know, there is a way to fix this without spending money.

If you empty and release enough of your retainers before the retainer you're trying to access you can make the retainer you're trying to access become active and accessible (Releasing your first retainer would make your second take slot one and your third take slot two. Releasing your second retainer would make your third take slot two.).

It may not be ideal, but it is free and doable.

This is all on you, OP. You should have emptied out your retainer before you let it expire.

So when you said your sub expires in July do you mean your getting billed again that month or quitting the game? If the latter then why bother with the transfer to begin with?