Suddenly feel bored after 4.55 released

*sorry my English*

The 4.5 24man raid was amazing in the first three runs (I played FFT & love it)
BLU is fun for the first three days.
I was a little hyped by 5.0, new zones are beautiful, I have pre ordered it.

I must admit XIV story is very good, it's on par with the best single player RPG. but it's an one time experience., because MMO = grind, I know.

Then 4.55 released, another Eureka and fate train.
Eureka is not the worst in the game, at least it's better than the open world in this game,
in fact, Eureka is one of the best content in this game IMO,
because there's sense of adventure(not much), because the mobs has some life in it（not much).

Same old music, same fate train, ah.. ok I know, MMO=grind, I know, I can grind, I've one main & four alts, I've 100mil+ gil & six houses :cool:

Time to grind right? But I have no motivation,
because I know the relic will become total trash after 3 months
I am sick and tired of this formula already， there's no end & reward nothing, yes, NOTHING.
Ask yourself, SB had released two years, you grind a lot, but what have you got?

4.55 just released what? two days?
I know I am not the only one who feels this way

Eureka is not for everyone. There's no real need to get the Relic either. There are other options (tokens, Savage, Extreme, etc). If it's for the look, then yeah, you just need to slog through it. Relics have always been a long, long term investment.

And yeah, gear will be replaced roughly every 3-4 months. As you say, that's how MMOs work. You can always take a break and come back for 5.0 or maybe a month or two before.

Have you considered leveling an alt on your server or another. Given you're straight 70's in everything it's kind of hard to produce content that will keep you busy for long until something like xpac hits. I know i have a lot of fun with mine.

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Originally Posted by Kaedan

Eureka is not for everyone. There's no real need to get the Relic either. There are other options (tokens, Savage, Extreme, etc). If it's for the look, then yeah, you just need to slog through it. Relics have always been a long, long term investment.

And yeah, gear will be replaced roughly every 3-4 months. As you say, that's how MMOs work. You can always take a break and come back for 5.0 or maybe a month or two before.

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Why does everyone say gear gets replaced after 3-4 months when we only get new gear tiers every 8 months?!

Filler stuffs get replaced quicker, but my savage weapon or a savage body armor or some ilvl 400 accesoires will have been equipped for about 8-9 months in July when expansions comes out.

I also feel that grinding is overused in MMO's. We should encourage developers to look for more creative or interesting ways to provide longevity. In the meantime though, as long as the game provides something interesting to do, it's worth it to keep playing. If you don't know what to do for yourself, maybe consider assisting other people in achieving their goals. Help newer players progress or learn about the game, or something along those lines.

If you really feel like there is nothing to do, stepping away from the game for some time is fine too.

So, this is besically a remake of your thread from 2 days ago in which you talked about how you dislike the gear-progression in this game?

Let me tell you what I got after two years of SB:

I got all my Ex-primal mounts and the fox-mount I wanted since I first saw the foxlady in Yanxia and guessed and hoped that she would turn out to be our "leader"-mount. My ever improving gear helped me to achieve this goal.

I had a lot of fun with my static, playing our way through the second and currently third tier of Omega-Savage. Our improving gear helped us to clear fights with more ease eventually.

I got to see and play through amazing stories - not only the mainstory, but other aswell. Getting better gear allowed me to continue with that.

I'm hoarding pieces of gear for glamour purposes and I will continue to do so!

I only went into Eureka to make the AF-gear-sets dyeable and even though their ilvl is way, way to low to be used for anything... I dont regret that, because they'll serve me as glamour-pieces for the rest of the game. My bard has dyed AF-shoes glamoured right now - the stats dont matter, but the looks... the looks are forever. And I still feel like I achieved something here - and if its only a good looking bard-glamour.

To me, replacing gear was never an issue - but mainly, because I dont consider gear to be my endgoal. I have other endgoals and I achieved almost all of them by playing through Stormblood - most required the help of better gear and stats, so I went and got those better gear. But unless the gear itself looks nice (and thus never loses its value as glamour-piece to me), I dont consider gear something that I achieve but only as means to achieve my real goals.
I have enough to show for the effort I put into this expansion: My mounts, lots of fun, time spent with friends, nice glamour-pieces. Replacing gear that I'm only wearing for the stats has never bothered me and never will.
Gear is a tool, not the endgoal - at least for me.

So much in regards to my feelings towards gear... if you cant share any of those (or similar) feelings in regards to the relic, it might not be worth it to you, thats true.
And its normal to feel unmotivated, burnt out and as if you have nothing to do in the game anymore - taking a break or trying something completly new can help!
Ever since I got all my ex-primal mounts I feel a little lost aswell, but thats okay for me aswell. I got what I wanted, nothing will lose its value to me and I'm ready for Shadowbringers!

I can only advise everyone not to view stats and gear as their endgoal, but rather as means to an end. I understand that reaching the highste ilvl possible might be a valid goal for people, but I'm not sure if thats one thats working out to well in this game! BUT there are other things to work towards - mounts, pets, glamour...
Personally, I'm trying to get through Eureka atm - not because of the relic, but because I wanna see the story, experience the Pyros-actions and maybe get a mount or something out of a lootbox. And no expansion, no ilvl-raise, no new gear is going to take any of that away from me.

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Originally Posted by Vidu

I can only advise everyone not to view stats and gear as their endgoal, but rather as means to an end..

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great post. i especially agree with this part. a lot of people i chat with mention upgrading their gear to max level but never doing any content that that gear would be useful in. I've always looked at gear as a means to an end, clearing hard content/getting savage weapon/getting a mount/etc, but a surprising amount of people just care about the gear itself and it took me a while to realize and accept this.

Im currently waiting for Seiryus mount to be tradable (stopped at 99 totems) and working on 3 relics in Hydratos. But the stats dont matter, I already have 3 Omega weapons. The Ozma mount is a stretch goal but I'm definitely going to try to get it before the expansion.

What were you expecting? If you've invested that much time in this game then you should've known that the system here is the system to this game. I'm not trying to be mean but I dunno why after 5 years people think xiv is going to be a completely different game when it's been xiv for the past 5 years. And honestly I dont bvb think poo people REALLY want something different. Blu is a good example of changing the way a job is handled and look how that worked out. It was new and different and everyone exploded on se on why it was different. Yes it was on a job but do you really think people wont cry if all of a sudden all the tokens were gone and they replaced all the ways to gear up? You think that'll go over smoothly?

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

Have you considered leveling an alt on your server or another. Given you're straight 70's in everything it's kind of hard to produce content that will keep you busy for long until something like xpac hits. I know i have a lot of fun with mine.

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That would be their 6th char though. If you have 5 already and have nothing interesting to do, a 6th isn't going to help anything.

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Originally Posted by AnimaAnimus

That would be their 6th char though. If you have 5 already and have nothing interesting to do, a 6th isn't going to help anything.

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I didn't know she/he has alts. I have them and I'm always busy and i play this game more than most.

Edit: I missed the part about the alts in their OP. Hard to read carefully and do dungeons/expert at the same time :P

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Originally Posted by Dav2017

Same old music, same fate train, ah.. ok I know, MMO=grind, I know, I can grind, I've one main & four alts, I've 100mil+ gil & six houses :cool:

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It sounds like you have played the game enough for several people. Sorry but I don't think any mmo's patch content could satisfy someone who would need an expansion's worth of content to be entertained for a long period of time. You're among a severe minority of people. Most people do not play to this degree.

Best advice I can give is try to find another game that does fill those needs until next expansion you can take breaks, but you'll find out after awhile you'll be taking allot of those with this mmo light burnt out sets in easily. It's easily catch up freindly for gear so not going to miss much or purchase gear for instance 5.0 starter city vendor.

The game is pretty much dead until 5.0 if you aren't doing Eureka. I really hope they don't follow this "spreading out content" shtick next expansion, it's ridiculous when they only release one piece of awful content in a whole sub-patch cycle.

Take a break until the next expansion. If you don't have a house unsub and play other games or do other activities. Yoshi P himself has even said he thinks people should play other games or take a break from the game if they find themselves like this.

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Originally Posted by Hakuro89

The game is pretty much dead until 5.0 if you aren't doing Eureka. I really hope they don't follow this "spreading out content" shtick next expansion, it's ridiculous when they only release one piece of awful content in a whole sub-patch cycle.

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I want my 2 Dungeons per patch back.... that sucks the most on SB...

Stormblood's odd number patches have been the worse so far in the game. With 4.1 having Eureka being Delayed, meaning the only meaningful content for that patch was Rabanastre. Then every other odd patch was just meh. Only 1 new dungeon, a 24 man that has interesting mechanics, but wears off after the first few runs, and Eureka, which most people do not like. The only good thing that came from this, is I actually got to play different games, which was nice but not because I needed a break, but because this game has nothing else to offer currently.

If they are going for Diadem 4/Eureka 2 again like they said, they really need to get it right this time. Most of their experimental content has just been completely DOA, and Eureka would be the same if relic wasn't attached to it.

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Originally Posted by Neophyte

Why does everyone say gear gets replaced after 3-4 months when we only get new gear tiers every 8 months?!

Filler stuffs get replaced quicker, but my savage weapon or a savage body armor or some ilvl 400 accesoires will have been equipped for about 8-9 months in July when expansions comes out.

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Because not everyone progresses through content at the same rate, nor does everyone consume every kind of content. For someone who doesn't do savage, they're now looking at replacing gear with stuff from the monastery and replacing tomestone gear with upgraded tomestone gear. Add to that the best weapon currently available for someone in that position is the relic weapon. You can't upgrade the tomestone weapon even right now without running Omega savage, meaning that weapon you get in Eureka, even if you finish it this week, will only be a decent weapon until shortly after the expansion launches, or about 4 months.

Thats why the raids should not have tome upgrades, to use them at the uneven patch with smt slightly less capped... I do understand why were gettin those catch up patches but like, i dont even need one gear from Orbonne for any job as i can use aug. crafted or smt else, or just stick to 380...

If you dont get savage gear on like release and wanna gear up more then one job its... frustrating.

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Originally Posted by Kuroka

Thats why the raids should not have tome upgrades, to use them at the uneven patch with smt slightly less capped... I do understand why were gettin those catch up patches but like, i dont even need one gear from Orbonne for any job as i can use aug. crafted or smt else, or just stick to 380...

If you dont get savage gear on like release and wanna gear up more then one job its... frustrating.

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Currently using Eureka/MB weapons on my chars because I don't wanna do raids just to upgrade tome weapons. Kinda dumb they locking it behind raids like that. EX primal weapons are an option but I'm waiting for the nerf or 80 cap so it's much easier to farm trying for mount.

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Originally Posted by Dirwen

Currently using Eureka/MB weapons on my chars because I don't wanna do raids just to upgrade tome weapons. Kinda dumb they locking it behind raids like that. EX primal weapons are an option but I'm waiting for the nerf or 80 cap so it's much easier to farm trying for mount.

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Why is that dumb though? If you dont raid, if you dont even do EX-primals, you're totally fine with a ilvl390 weapon - you'd probably be fine with a weapon of a much lower ilvl!

...and as I explained earlier I always found it quite difficult to understand why people just want the ilvl for the ilvl itself - I guess its some sort of valid goal, but I was always under the impression that those weapons are tied to the raids to help those who raid to clear the fights... because at the end of the day weapons (and gear in general) are tools to help you achieve your goals, not really the goal itself (or at least thats my humble opinion on the matter - which is why I never understood people who have no intrest in trying the more challenging content complain about not having straight away access to the best gear)

I've had some fun helping a freind level on fates using my blu. Any boss fate can be destroyed in like 30 seconds with missle / tail screw.

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Originally Posted by Doki

I've had some fun helping a freind level on fates using my blu. Any boss fate can be destroyed in like 30 seconds with missle / tail screw.

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Does that include odin and behemoth?

I'm the definition of a "casual" so take my opinion with a grain of salt. But it's the end of an expansion. There are always lulls at the end of an expansion in pretty much every MMO to ever release. I don't get why this is such a surprising thing for people these days. You're tired of this formula? I hear players complaining about this all the time. No matter what the devs release, people will try to clear it as fast as possible then complain they're bored. A common comparison is WoW content and even that one the highest difficulty is cleared my top players within a week or two at most.

So as a casual player, I'm curious what bored players want? What is going to fix the content drought between expansions that, like I already stated, is a thing in all MMOs? Because at this point they're preparing for the expansion, SB is pretty much done. We're getting new content in like 5 months. If you're that bored, take a break and play some other games so you don't completely burn yourself out before the expansion releases.

Honestly I don't think the devs will ever truly be able to satisfy all players.

FFIX is one of the better MMO out there in regards to supplying fresh contents every week during patch maintenance. There are mostly small contents here and there (0.0X), quite insignificant compare to larger patch number (0.X), but still it's thoughtful for them to give us something else to do during lull time (like Chinese New Year or Valentine Day specific quests). Besides, I CAN NOT stress enough the importance of the challenge log. Gil / GC seals/ and Experience in nice chucks for simply completing certain "tasks". Other options would be leveling crafting / gathering classes.

Lots of people burn out because of grind. But grinding is one's own perrogative. I find it really depressing that so many people only seem to derive fun from reaching material goals in MMOs. I mean, if that's what you like to do, then there's nothing wrong with that, but if you find the grind tedious, then why are you doing it?

Other players derive fun from trying to clear things as fast as possible and maximize their DPS. This is a much more sustainable gameplay style because it's an immaterial goal. No matter how fast you go, you can always improve and go faster.

Personally, I can't say I'm fond of the speedfarm culture in MMOs. I'd rather see people do things for the sake of challenging themselves to actually clear (i.e. by self-imposing limitations and tackling older content), rather than challenging themselves to faceroll quickly, but what can you do, I guess.

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Originally Posted by linay

Does that include odin and behemoth?

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from what i tested on Odin, no, i am assuming behemoth is the same. but it was very flashy so i may not of seen missile work but i am very sure i hit and got immune

Ah, ok, I figured that would be the case.

I've felt extremely unmotivated to do anything in the new Eureka yet.