A concern about the World Visit feature

Let's say you're doing an alliance raid with a particularly salty party member. As the lead of your team, you initiate the vote-kick and the salty party member is dismissed.

There's nothing to prevent them from finding out your character's name and world via the Contacts menu and then teleporting to you and just launching a torrent of rage at you. Of course, you can blacklist them, but that won't prevent them from following you around or generally making a scene in /say or /shout (not sure if blacklisting only mutes tells or everything).

You could report their behavior to a GM, but that doesn't always mean anything. My concern is that, as cool as this feature would be to visit friends, it might also create a hotbed for griefing. Your thoughts?

People can do that anyway. I had someone make a character on my world just to harass me in /tell. People will always find a way to bother you. There's plenty of places they can't follow you, and blacklisting does mute everything. And you should report it.

/blacklist will be enough

and you queue for another duty they can't follow you there.

i have no concerns for griefing? i go into my squadron room and they can wait outside. i can go into my house and lock everyone else out.

Anyone in a party can initiate a vote kick, not just the leader, so the person kicked wouldn't know who initiated it.

Blacklist does block say and shout, the only thing it doesn't block is emotes and emotes aren't gonna kill you, you can just ignore them.

It's not really an issue unless you choose to make it one.

Ahh I see. That's good to know. Yeah I've had people hop on a character on my world just to screech at me. I think it has only happened twice that I can remember. I have, I think, a grand total of 3 people on my blacklist and they're not on my server so I wasn't sure how much of them it would mute. They can emote me until they fall asleep at the keyboard, doesn't affect me in the slightest. It's good to know that although the potential for abuse is there, there are a lot of things that you can do to shut them up and shut them out.

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Originally Posted by alimdia

Anyone in a party can initiate a vote kick, not just the leader, so the person kicked wouldn't know who initiated it.

Blacklist does block say and shout, the only thing it doesn't block is emotes and emotes aren't gonna kill you, you can just ignore them.

It's not really an issue unless you choose to make it one.

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This, anyone can initiate a votekick, and it does not tell anyone who initiated it.

I'm concerned about this feature, it's gonna be something cool, but at the same time I don't want nasty people I don't like coming to my server or to my house. I wish they add a way like, if they wanna come to harass you at your plot, an invisible wall stops them from coming inside your yard and house. I feel there won't be much privacy anymore. Or at least let us block people even if they are offline (not talking about the Contact list but the randoms who send tells and then disappear before you can do something).

Much like real life, it's impossible to completely prevent people from doing bad or mean things. But there's plenty of ways to respond to it, and they can still be punished. So if someone follows you to your world, says nasty things to you, follows you around, etc., make sure to be very detailed when you report them. Don't just be like "they got kicked from a duty and now they're bugging me, please help". The more in depth, the more information the GMs have to decided on disciplinary action.

lul, just blacklist and ignore what they say.


I'm far to busy with like stuff in game to pay attention to nasty people, they can shout to the wall all they want while I'm inside whatever instanced duty. Couldn't care less.


Don't let people like that take your fun away.



Ignoring their behavior is the only and best thing you can do (and file a report to a GM).

Maybe don't be an asshole. You can't stop people from doing things like this, but if you avoid being an asshole then you're extremely likely not to encounter such a thing, even from people on your very own server.

From what it sounds like they aren't going to restrict trades between players in different servers either, which is likely going to make the RMT issues even worse.

I really don't think they considered all of the possible negative effects this feature could have and mostly looked at the few positives.

This tells me more about you than the non-existent "harasser" that might go pay you a visit on your server tbh.

If someone has that much free time on their hands, I applaud them.
I think I was once removed from a duty. Just the one time. I simply re-queued and went on with my day.

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Originally Posted by Freyt

Maybe don't be an asshole. You can't stop people from doing things like this, but if you avoid being an asshole then you're extremely likely not to encounter such a thing, even from people on your very own server.

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I kind of have to agree with this. While it's possible that you just got someone intent on trolling you, in most cases they go so far because they hate you for at least a reason they perceive as legitimate. Even as someone who is a bit of a divisive figure on my DC/world, and who clashes strongly with people over gameplay ideology, I've never experienced this level of trolling. Nor have a dealt it out. I have experienced some lesser trolling, like people looking up irrelevant FFlogs to flame me in /tell or they try to start something on /shout, but that can be easily avoided or ignored via blacklisting or just turning off /shout chat (it's 99% spam anyways).

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

From what it sounds like they aren't going to restrict trades between players in different servers either, which is likely going to make the RMT issues even worse.

I really don't think they considered all of the possible negative effects this feature could have and mostly looked at the few positives.

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On the other hand I'm really looking forward to the legitimate side of this: passing money from my main character to my alts!

My main has more money than I'm ever likely to use, and my alts are poor non-crafters who need that gil. So it will be great if I can use marketboard sales to pass money to them, or craft items on my main account and pass them to my alts that way.

This sort of activity is also going to be a gil sink due to market taxes, and people have been calling for more gil sinks for a while.