Im trying to upgrade my Zenith Weapons into Atma so i can continue, however im having trouble determining which Atma Crystal belongs to which weapon, seeing that they're all Zodiacs.
Im pretty sure the Atma of the Archer goes to the archer obviously. But from there on i am at a lost.
Can somebody simply tell me in a bullet format which atma goes to which weapon, like a Cheat Sheet.
Ex:
Warrior = this atma
Paladin = that atma
So on so forth plz?
Which Atma Crystals go to which Weapon of Zenith
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07-22-2018, 06:01 AMTrixie_StriderWhich Atma Crystals go to which Weapon of Zenith
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07-22-2018, 06:06 AMUltimaYou need all 12 Atma crystals to make your Relic Weapon Zenith become Relic Weapon Atma.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trixie_Strider
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07-22-2018, 06:46 AMTrixie_Strider
Thats...not what i was asking.
I was asking which Atma Crystals go to which weapon since it doesn't specify, only by zodiac. Like which atma goes to the black mage's weapon -
07-22-2018, 06:48 AMMikey_R
You need to collect all 12 to upgrade one weapon from zenith to atma, that means, if you want to do 2, you need 2 sets, 3, 3 sets and so on.
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07-22-2018, 06:55 AMTrixie_Strider
Again not what i was asking!
I just want to know WHICH Atma goes to WHICH weapons
The names of the Atmas are after Zodiacs. I just want to know which Atmas go to which weapons.
I even left an example to follow -
07-22-2018, 06:58 AMPaladinleeds
I think he wants to know the names of the weapons. E.G. Paladin's Curtana becomes Excalibur... for which there's a guide here listing them all: https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Zodiac_Weapons
Edit: hmm, seems I may be wrong looking back. As far as the atmas go, all 12 go into the weapon as denoted by https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/w...est#Up_in_Arms - and judging from the upgrade stats, they just become Nobus weapons not "weapon atma" -
07-22-2018, 07:07 AMTrixie_StriderWhat am i speaking, Chinese!?Quote:
Originally Posted by Paladinleeds
What Atamas go to which weapons!
These are the Atmas across Eorzea
All i want to know is WHICH class they belong to, thats all
Atma of the Lion
Atma of the Water-baerer
Atma of the Ram
Atma of the Crab
Atma of the Fish
Atma of the Bull
Atma of the Scales
Atma of the Twins
Atma of the Scorpion
Atma of the Archer = (Bard)
Atma of the Goat
Atma of the Maiden -
07-22-2018, 07:10 AMPaladinleedsYes, your original post wasn't the best phrased and was difficult for people to understand (hence the incorrect replies). However this clarification you've provided does help a lot, and I'll be honest, I don't know. Doesn't each atma shard have its own colour? Perhaps you can use that to check with the job stone (I think the Atma Archer and Soul of the Bard have the same stone colour) to work out which is which.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trixie_Strider
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07-22-2018, 07:11 AMVidu
Atmas. are. not. related. to. any. weapons.
You need ALL atmas for EVERY weapon.
The Atmas - or Zodiacs - arent "assignd" any weapons/jobs either.
Atmas dont belong to any job or weapon.
What you're asking - very rudly - isnt a thing. Happy? -
07-22-2018, 07:11 AMMusashidonno you are asking a lore based question in the general discussion forums.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trixie_Strider
go to the lore sub forum.
the game never directly tells us whose is whose or if they are actually connected to a job. -
07-22-2018, 07:13 AMTrixie_StriderFinally, that makes sense, i didn't think aboit that, and it makes sense that the Shard would match the color as the Job Crystal. THANK YOU!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Paladinleeds
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07-22-2018, 07:13 AMAzper
I get what you're asking, but I don't think each job/weapon is represented by a certain Atma. The association you're trying to make wasn't intended by the developers and the fact that there happens to be an Atma of the Archer that you're connecting with Bard is reaching for a connection that isn't there.
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07-22-2018, 07:18 AMTrixie_StriderI got my answer but to those still confused, i just wanted to know which shard goes to which jobQuote:
Originally Posted by Azper
To make my grind and farming better, and more organized, but i never expected my question to fly over so many heads. At leas ONE person understood -
07-22-2018, 07:19 AMPaladinleedsNo worries, once we were able to clearly see what you were asking (which someone has correctly stated is lore based rather than gameplay based, and therefore is best asked in the Lore sub-forum. Hopefully a mod moves it over), it made it easier to try and help find the answer. From a gameplay perspective, the atma to which job doesn't matter and you require one of each of the 12 atma's to progress a single weapon to the next stage of the relic questline - so you'll need 10 sets of each, aka 120 atma total, to progress all 10 relic weapons to the next stage (and until your clarification it came across that you were asking on a gameplay perspective how the atma/zenith weapons interacted with the shards, not a lore of which is behind which), which is what others have based their replies off (General Discussion is seen as more gameplay focused, with lore related questions going to Lore), but from a lore standpoint, there's more to discuss.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trixie_Strider
Anyhow, hopefully you find the answer you seek. I'm interested in it myself, seeing which is which, but as we've stated before, the matches will only be from a lore perspective.
EDIT: I've had a friend of mine (whom I aren't going to name, they don't post on the forums though) reach out to me in-game and they believe the atmas are actually based off the zodiac symbolbs. Given there's 12 zodiacs and 12 atma shard types, this does make sense and may also be what it actually is based off, rather than each tied to a job (10 zodiac/relic weapons, 12 atma types). -
07-22-2018, 08:29 AMVstarstruckHow would it make your grind more organized? You need them all for each job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trixie_Strider
https://www.horoscopedates.com/zodiac-signs/Quote:
Originally Posted by Paladinleeds
yes, archer = Sagittarius
Atma of the Lion > leo
Atma of the Water-baerer > Aquarius
Atma of the Ram >Aries
Atma of the Crab > Cancer
Atma of the Fish >Pisces
Atma of the Bull >Taurus
Atma of the Scales > Libra
Atma of the Twins > Gemini
Atma of the Scorpion > Scorpio
Atma of the Archer >Sagittarius
Atma of the Goat> Capricorn
Atma of the Maiden > Virgo
They are not based on jobs at all -
07-22-2018, 08:44 AMKaivaCMayhaps its because the specific question you were asking was lore-based, which is ...usually not a thing the General Discussions forum engages in, especially with something like this. It was only natural that folks didn't tie your question to lore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trixie_Strider
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07-22-2018, 08:47 AMPaladinleedsThanks, that's great. Though Zodiac relic questline, Zodiac signs... I should have seen the connection a mile off... [rambles incoherently at his own ineptitude to not notice it]Quote:
Originally Posted by Vstarstruck
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07-22-2018, 10:22 AMGeminaEven though your question flew over several heads. This is the poster who understands the connection between the Atmas and Zodiac Weapons...Quote:
Originally Posted by Trixie_Strider
There is no connection to the jobs themselves. The Atmas simply represent the 12 astrological signs of the zodiac. Hence the name of the questline. However, I have often wondered if the zodiac signs are intended to be loosely related to The Twelve in this game. I can also think of a couple of bosses that are essentially the embodiment of those signs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vstarstruck
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07-22-2018, 10:25 AMFeliAiko
The OP already knew they were associated with the Zodiac, but mistakenly thought each one had a connection to each weapon/Job.
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07-22-2018, 10:48 AMMistakeNotYou have already been answered. You need ALL of the Atmas for your weapon. It is the same for all weapons. None of the Atmas are specific for any weapon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trixie_Strider
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07-22-2018, 11:48 AMHasrat
I mean, there are only 10 relic weapons (11 if you want to count the shield separate), so you can't even match up all the zodiacs/atmas anyway. Atmas don't "belong" to any weapon as much as they do the area they drop from, for no real particular reason stated in game. How are they supposed to belong to any weapon when all of the weapons can produce every one?
Going by color? Atma of the Archer is a lot closer to the SMN soul stone color than BRD. It's a whole lot of fudging and accepting "close enough, sorta" to match anything that way, with a bonus bit of "I guess that color is kinda on the soul stone" (go ahead and try to match BLM or NIN using the same criteria as anything else). -
07-22-2018, 10:09 PMMsQiYour question is based on a false assumption. How does it make your farming better? As a bard you need all twelve, and can get all twelve as a bard. As a white mage you need all twelve, and can get all twelve as a white mage. etc. etc. I have heard you an get multiples on a single job and save them, but I haven't actually tried it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trixie_Strider
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07-22-2018, 11:00 PMRufalusThere is no association between each type of atma and each job. For your farm you will need to farm all atma types, regardless of which job you are using. If you wish to complete 1 weapon then you need 1 of each type of atma.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trixie_Strider