Story: [Ghost of Our Past, Present, and Future]
Job: [Chronosguard]
Class: [Tank]
Weapon: Scythe Relic Weapon:Apocalypse
*New Lore and Story
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*Updated the Lore behind who the Chronosguard is, and how he's connected to the Warrior of Light. Please note there might be some typos, will fix soon.
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Preliminary Quest: 70
Name: [A Time Torn Mystery]
Level: 80 Chronosguard Unlock Quest:
*[Ghost of Our Past, Present, and Future]
Ancient Sharlayn, a island to the north of Eorzea, was known as the "Old World," a nation full of academic and scholastic individuals, wished to keep themselves seldom from international political agendas. Upon seeing the apparent determination Garlemald had towards conquest, they withdrew from the Eorzea.
[The Order of the Chronosguard]
The establishment of the Chronosguard began in Ancient Sharlayan to guard and protect the coveted knowledge, pertaining to Hydaelyn, the Mother Crystal, and wished to preserve it for the generations to come, and to wield, this ancient power.This power, though not known by many, and empowered by Hydaelyn herself, was a knowledge and ability wielded by few. This conjure made those who wielded it vulnerable to the currents of time; allowing them to transcend through its flow as an omnipresent ghost.
These wielders of scythes, wore dark garments, and masked their face, and those who witnessed their transcendence through the course of time, imagined them as the reaper of souls.
Seeing how powerful this new magic was, the Order of the Chronosguard was established, and pretty soon, amongst the few, chosen by Hydaelyn herself, to wield this power, a new leader was chosen to preserve, and protect this collective knowledge.And now, mostly elapsed by time itself, only a small few Chronosguards remain, and those left, must be vigilant, and find others chosen by Hydaelyn to pass on this knowledge.
As the Garlemald Empire continues its conquest, a Chronosguard, one who's time is almost up, has seen a revelation of a darkness engulfing Hydaelyn herself, and this darkness is linked to something in Garlemald.
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[Present Day]
We see the last remaining Chronosguards in Manderville Gold Saucer, in search of a new recruit, to pass on this knowledge…
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The Chronosguard's Absolution
"I have seen everything, past, present, and future. I've seen your tale in the drifts of time… I've witnessed the trials you've endured, the loss… and I've seen your end, and that is I, I am here to stop myself. To join you, and to extend my hand to be victorious, where you failed." Chronosguard Ullyn says to the Warrior of Light before instilling in him/her the powers of the Chronosguard and the Time Gauge.
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[Changes Made Recently]
-[The Time Knight's Skill and Rotations]-
-Please note this is a long list
-Polishing up the rotation up a bit and added a new mechanic with a "Time Gauge," this gauge allows the Time Knight to build up a meter that's tied into his chronological Lapses.
Due to this, there's been a few changes on the abilities he has.
- * Future Time Lapses, are made up, sort of foreshadowing an enemy that the Warrior of Light may face in the near future.
- *Changed Cataclysm to "Calamity" Spell, changed Shinryu to "Bahamut," made more sense for the Chronological Portal appearances lol
- *Changed the spell to "Mega Flare," his iconic reoccurring move in Final Fantasy games.
- *Changed Wyrm-Lapse to include "Bahamut"
- *Added new Spell: "Rewind," Raises downed ally
Total list of Spells, Weapon Skills, and Abilities is 24
[What's a Chronological Lapse?]
Though most events he's seen are from the past, the Chronosguard also can open time portals into the future, therefore foreshadowing what exactly he saw that ended the world.
New Unique Traits
[Level / Trait Name / Description]
• (20) [Time Lapse] I-IV: Has a 5% ~(9% [IV]) Chance to inflict double damage during a Weaponskill.
o Manipulating Space and Time, the Chronosguard rewinds its next Weaponskill that strikes the enemy twice, rather than once.
• (25) [Foresight] I-IV: Increases Parry and Block by 5%~(10%[IV])
• (40) [Time Manipulation]: Equally Increases Time Gauge accumulation when casting Spells
• (20) [Enhanced Banish] Triggers a Combo to hit enemies within range at a potency of 150 and increased Enmity
Abilities
Abilities have seen a big change from the Original Concept
[Level / Ability Name / Description]
• (20) Light Arts [Instant / 30s] - Attuning it's senses with the Ticking Time Gauge, this allows the Chronosguard to look further into the Past or Future. This increase the Time Gauge by 10% upon the rupture of the next Rift.
o Duration: 15s
o Addition Effect: Increase Potency of next Rift by 10%
o Addition Effect: Time Gauge Charge +10%
o Additional Effect: *Light Arts has Additional Enhancements it does to Certain Abilities and Spells
-*The Enhancements Light Arts does is shown below the Ability or Spell it enhances in description
• (30) Extend: [Instant / 30s] Increases the duration of the next Enhancing Spell by 40%
o Duration: 10s
o Additional Effect Light Arts: Increases Duration by an additional 10%
• (42) [Blink]: [Instant / 180s] Fast-Forwarding in Motion, a Time Barrier ignites, Reducing damage taken by 40%, and reflects 10% of damage from MP Pool.
o Duration: 10s
o Additional Effect: 10% of damage taken, removed from MP.
o Under the Effect of Light Arts: Damage Taken -50% MP Reduction -5%
• (50) [Teleport]: [240s / 10s] When Teleport is in effect, the Chronosguard produces a copy image that steals hate, and then Teleports behind the enemy.
o Duration: 10s
o The Image has 1/10th of the Chronosguard's HP *The Image vanishes if it is not defeated within the 10s
o Additional Effect: Enmity Increase
• (64) Balance: [Instant / 30s] Enhances attack and Magic Attack by 10% at the expense of reducing defense by 20%
o Duration: Until Deactivated.
o Additional Effect Light Arts: *Attack +15% and Magic Attack +15%
• (70) [Undo]: [Instant / 60s] Rewinding Time, it Reverts HP and MP back to previous state.
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Spell List
[Level / Spell Name / Description]
• (6) Demi : [2.5s / 2.5s] (1060 MP) Instantly strikes enemies within range with Time-Lapse with the potency of 40.
o Additional Effect: Increased Enmity
• (10) Slow: [2.5s / 2.5s] Reduces Enemy Attack and Ability attack by 10%
o Light Arts Additional Effect:
Reduces Attack and Ability Attack by 15%
• (25) Reflect : [2.5s / 40s] Transmits 5% of damage back to enemy and transfers 5% to MP Pool.
o Duration: 15s
- Additional Effect: Light Arts
- Transmits 10% of Damage back to enemy and 10% is Distributed to MP and HP
• (38) Banish : [2.5s / 2.5s] (1020 MP) Deals a Time-Split to strike the enemy with the potency of 300.
o Combo Additional Effect ONLY: Vulnerability *Time Lapse potency increased by 10
o *Combo Bonus: Enhanced Banish: Deals a Time-Split to strike enemies within range with a potency of 150
• (44) Haste: [2.5s / 2.5s] Increases Ability Recast Speed, Movement Speed, Attack Speed by 20% and grants a MP Regeneration Effect.
o Duration 30s
• (50) Rewind: (2.5s/ Cast time: 10s) MP: 3500: The Chronosguard targets a downed party member, and rewinds time and restores their life.
o Additional Effect: Weakness
o Additional Effect: Light Arts, cuts the recast time by half
Light Arts: Cast time: 5s
• (50) Stop: [2.5s / 2.5s] (MP 120) Instantly stops an Enemy's next move or ability.
[*Stop is their "Stun" ability]
o Duration: 1s
*Combo Bonus Stop >> Slow 20% [Light Arts + Combo: 25%]
[The Final Spell Calamity saw some changes]
The Spell Calamity is called Calamity on screen when the Time Gauge is not in use, upon its shift to let's say "Past," Mega Flare appears on the icon; this is for button bloating, one button for all three spells: dependent on Time Gauge Orientation.
Here's also my vision for these spells: A Portal Opens, and the portal shows the video (Like looking out a window) of let's say Bahamut casting Mega Flare and the Mega Flare springs out of the Portal.
• (60) Calamity: [120s] 2000 MP A Time Portal opens over the Time Mage and brings forth an ending of the Past or the Future, dependent on the Time Gauge Orientation.
o [Past]: Mega Flare: Bahamut comes forth the Time Portal and strikes enemies within range with Mega Flare; it inflicts damage of 440, for first enemy, and 240 if more than one enemy is within range and causes a temporary Magical Defense Down of 3%.o [Future]: Shadow Flare: An unknown, shadowed, Ascian Overlord, comes forth the Time Portal and casts Shadow Flare to strike enemies within range; it inflicts 440, for first enemy, and 240 if more than one enemy is within range to enemies within range and grants a temporary Physical Defense Down of 3%.o [Present] Minfilia's Gift: White Wings waft around the Chronosguard that Grants a Party Wide Time Barrier that reduces damage to party members within range by 40% and upon its rupture, it rewinds time to grant a powerful cure.-Duration: 10s
-Cure Potency 200
-Additional Effect: Increased Enmity
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-The Time Gauge Mechanic-
-The Time Gauge Mechanic charge is dependent on what Weapon Skills the Chronosguard uses in its Rotation.
The Chronosguard is equipped with Two Weapon Skills from an enemy boss from the Past, and two Weapon Skills from an unseen boss from the Future.
It takes Three Complete Rotations to fill the gauge full on one side, and once the gauge is full, Calamity unlocks and the Chronosguard can use this spell.
The Weapon Skills below will show what time period the "Time Lapse" is from.
• [Ultima-Lapse]: Past
• [Wyrm-Lapse]: Past
• [Omega-Lapse]: Future
• [Ascian-Lapse]: Future
If the player decides to play the rotation equal, it requires 4 rotations to get an equal gauge for "Present"
*When the Chronosguard initiates let's say: Wyrm-Lapse, he spins the dial backwards, which is the Time Gauge in the shape of a clock on his chest, and opens the portal; Time Lapse abilities use MP.
While under the effect of Light Arts all Lapse abilities are enhanced by 10%
Weapon Rotation
[Level / Weapon Skill / TP / Description]
• [1] Clockwise Spiral (2.5s / 60) Delivers an attack with a potency of 150.
o Additional Effect: Increased Enmity
• [10] Shadows of Time: (2.5s / 60) Delivers a three-Fold attack with the potency of 200 that increases Magical Damage by 10%
• [24] Omega-Lapse: (MP) A Time portal appears over the enemy, and Omega's leg ruptures through and strikes enemy with the potency of 210
• [30] Chronotrigger: (2.5s / 120) Delivers a ranged attack with a potency of 120• [54] Wyrm-Lapse: (MP) A Time portal ruptures before the Time Knight and Bahamut's wing bashes against the enemy(ies) with the potency of 60; additional effect Stun.
- o Additional Effect: Increased Enmity
- o Additional Effect: Light Arts Upon Impact, Area of Effect Stop
- o Duration: 2s
• [30] Nightmare Reaper: (2.5s / 120) 2 Scythes manifest themselves, one appearing from behind, the other, held by the Chronosguard, and strikes the enemy with a potency of 320
- *Additional Effect: Partial Damage Converted to MP
• [64] Ascian-Lapse: (MP) A Time Portal opens in front of the Time Knight and an Ascian Overlord tosses a Dark Orb at the enemy with the potency of 210.
- *Additional Effect when used with Combo: Transfers Partial Damage to MP
• [70] Quantum Break: (2.5s / TP60) Delivers a powerful strike that manipulates a time-lapse and pinches the enemy with the potency of 440• [34] Ultima-Lapse: (MP) A Time Portal opens in front of the Time Knight an Ultima fires Aetheric Bomb at the enemy with the potency of 230.
- *Additional Effect: Enmity Increase
- *Additional Effect: Light Arts: Time Gauge Increased by 25%
- *Additional Effect: Balance: Attack Potency: 640
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-Let's Talk about the new Rotation Mechanic-
Opener Trash Mob Enmity Rotation:
Demi >> Chronotrigger (Combo Bonus: *Wyrm-Lapse) >> Wyrm-Lapse (Combo Bonus: Enhanced Banish): >> Enhanced Banish
Remember: Wyrm-Lapse is an AoE
Banish becomes: Enhanced Banish with Combo, inflicting damage to ALL enemies within Range, at a Reduced Potency
-Regular Rotation:
Regular Future Gauge Filler:
- Clockwise Spiral >> Omega Lapse >> Shadows of Time >> Ascian Lapse
Regular Past Gauge Filler:
- Clockwise Spiral >> Wyrm-Lapse >> Shadows of Time >> Ultima-Lapse
Present Gauge Filler:
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- Clockwise Spiral >> Future / Past >> Shadows of Time >> Future / Past
MP Rotation:
- Clockwise Spiral >> Nightmare Reaper >> Ascian-Lapse
Powerful Single Target Strike Combo:
Light Arts >>Quantum Break >> Banish
-Buff Rotation for Attack Phase:
Light Arts >> Haste >> Blink >> Attack Phase
-Tank Buster *OH ???? Moment Rotation
Undo >> Commence Tanking Phase
Or If avoiding a timed Tank Buster
Teleport >> Commence Tanking Phase
-Solo Tanking Dungeon Bosses and still want to pump out that DPS
Light Arts >> Reflect >> Balance >> Commence Attack Phase
So performing the Combo three times and changing the Lapse Ability charges the Time Gauge to perform Calamity.
[Conclusion]
This is another fun little tank concept I had in mind. It's sort of a Hybrid Caster tank in a way; because it does have a set of spells and a set of Weapon abilities, and 4 of their Weapon Skills are I guess you can call: Summons lol.
*To balance this I reduced the General Abilities: for button bloating, because as I added these abilities / spells / Weapon Skills I had to picture them on a controller, to see how easy it could be managed.
*Now, tank wise, I am still inept, when it comes to visually trying to put together a Tank that has cooldowns and rotations that's somewhat for "Strategic Uses." For Raid Bosses and such which a lot of end gamers do.
*My best friend is a hardcore Raider and while speaking to him he sort of painted a picture of let's say one of the hard Savage Raid bosses like Neo Exdeath or God Kefka and how mitigations / cooldowns / tank busters all have to play a role, sort of like a symphony. Again did I perfect it, probably not lol; but hopefully with feedback and such I can better polish it.
Thanks for reading! Maybe one day we'll see a job the community sort of fleshed out, kind of like they are doing with the armor.
Sincerest Gratitude and Shout out to:
>> Kazrah and Eloah << :D
For helping me envision and polish up this concept. The feedback was incredible and helped me hone in my creativity, while still utilizing those special touches that make a job have that Final Fantasy touch.
Another shout out to LeoLupinos for not only his excellent looking Job Concept, but also giving me inspiration, I hope a variation of our jobs will be seen in the future of FFXIV =D
And another shout out to all the others who replied and gave feedback, thank you so much!
See y'all in game!
If you enjoyed reading it, hit the Like << =D
Pat out
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05-12-2018, 01:33 AMPatronasCharmChronosguard (Tank Concept)
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05-12-2018, 02:46 AMLeoLupinos
I'm current developing a Job to FF14, since Yoshida said that they want a Original Job to FF14. It's been years that I'm storing from all games and possible sources about time magic and interesting job mechanics. It's nearly done and it's awesome. I'm just fixing details and doing interviews so that ppl can help me with lore and Job usefullness. It's also about "time & space magic", but more about reality manipulation than classic time mage.
Your Job brings some interesting mechanics, I hope it inspires the Devs.
I would love a Job Design Contest some day.
@Edit: Do you know some source of information about time magic? of any game or article. -
05-12-2018, 04:15 AMPatronasCharmSo Lore wise, I just sort of tie it in with FFXIV's already made history. I tied this job with the Astrolagians since they have some connections with time.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeoLupinos
The job components I searched Final Fantasy Jobs, and it gives you a break down to jobs used in previous games. I add some FF Classic moves with some new ones. Its interesting to read where the jobs appear and their moves, and corresponding moves that are constant game after game. Time Mage is very interesting, as it can be a fun little job to play with, and whatever way its sliced would be super interesting how it would pan out.
But Lore is all about the imagination, just make a story, flesh it out, and show it. That's what I do with all my job concepts, the story sometimes is the most important part as it breaths life into the job your making.
I tied in my Rune Fencer with Red Mage in one of my previous concepts, bc I love how Astrolagians tied Geomancer in with their story; so I can't wait to see if we can get play as Geomancer in the near future. -
05-12-2018, 04:27 AMJonnycbad
Time Knight is a dumb name. Chronomancer makes more sense.
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05-13-2018, 09:24 AMPatronasCharmThanks for your honesty! The name, Time Knight comes from what he used to be, a Time Mage. Chronomancer sounds like a neat name too, would have never thought of about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonnycbad
After having a conversation with my friend who also plays this game, he actually pointed out that he would have made a Time Mage a healer, which sort of opened my mind into a what-if it were a healer. Sadly, I have a feeling if a new healer were to be made, I'd take my pick it to Geomancer, as its already in the game. But we'll see what twists SE has, maybe it'll make the Blue Mage a healer ahahaha. -
05-13-2018, 11:16 AMYojimboM
If this was actually a job in the game it would be completely busted. Most of the cooldowns are complete damage immunity or absorption, and multiple hard CCs.
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05-14-2018, 06:43 PMKazrahPretty much this. A lot of the mechanical details show almost no understanding of how tanks actually work in this game on a mechanical level. Also the lore presented, although providing a mildly interesting story premise, shows little knowledge the full lore of Astrologians, especially when Time Mages in the game are simply considered to be empowered Astrologians.Quote:
Originally Posted by YojimboM
That being said, the basic concept of a chronomancy-themed tank is something I like, and would definitely loved to see this polished, balanced and fleshed out more after looking through lore for Astrologians and definitely taking a look at Time Mages in Final Fantasy XII (a.k.a. the Time Battlemages). -
05-14-2018, 08:06 PMCeasaria
Ha, it was one of the job (but i called it "spacetime soldier") I did back one year ago (but not published here, but it's planned).
I post without having read entirely you post, but I will come back here in some days to give you my thought.
Need absolutely this or a Combat design contest, or Content design contest, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by LeoLupinos
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05-14-2018, 08:47 PMPatronasCharmI spoke to my friend after he read this and he said the same thing, regarding the mechanics of tanks, I think we had like a 20 min, conversation b/c he mains Warrior. He told me so pretty much with Omnipresence he can escape 4 tank busters? So I adjusted it to two images and reduced the time to 10s. He also liked the idea of a hammer wielding tank, I'd love to see one as well, he sort of imaged it like in Vermintide 2, with Bardin Goreksson, using a hammer and just going to town on enemies.Quote:
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Thanks for the feedback; I've adjusted a few things, including some of the Lore. I tied in the Geomancy too, since they have a connection with the astrologians. -
05-14-2018, 08:58 PMPastahnak
You can pull the name Time Battle mage from ff12 za, it's a job that wears heavy armor and uses time/green magic.
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05-20-2018, 11:05 AMPatronasCharm
Hey y'all so I've some a few tweaks to the concept I made, taking some of the feedback into consideration and polishing up some of the abilities, spells, and such, to make it look a bit more appealing. I also added a level there, to sort of show what level he learns things.
Lastly, the name Time Knight was a tough one to rename, I've seen a lot of suggestions from a couple posts that were here. Time Battle Mage / Chronomancer to name the two; I thought about it a lot and came up with a few other ones lol:
Timeslayer, Auspice Walker, or just a regular ol' Time Mage in the form of a tank lol. Anyways, thanks for the replies and feedback, Pat Out. -
05-20-2018, 11:52 PMKazrahChronoguard was the first that came to mind for me. Watcher was another one given the whole "I've seen some things" backstory.Quote:
Originally Posted by PatronasCharm
Changes look better for the mechanics and ability stuff, but that lore still sticks out to me like a sore thumb. -
05-21-2018, 02:05 AMEloah
Why not Chronos Knight? Also as nice as a node it might be to Bravely Default, I don't recommend using Eloch for a "lore" name. Not that it's bad per se, but BD used a lot of puns. My recommandation is minorly link it to the Hildebrand quests with Quan.
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05-21-2018, 02:22 AMPatronasCharmQuote:
Originally Posted by Eloah
Ahaha I'll look into sort of adjusting the lore and start a new story. And yeah those names also sound really good; Watcher and Chronoguard, I especially enjoy Chronos Knight! Thanks a lot Eloah and Kazrah. The feedback is always so appreciated =)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kazrah
As far as the name of the Time Knight, Eloch, yeah I wanted to sort of bring some love to BD lol; and I'll come up with a more unique name and also look into the Hildebrand quests with Quan. -
05-21-2018, 03:22 AMLunalepsy
A Chrono Knight! Sounds really fun.
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05-21-2018, 06:20 AMPatronasCharmQuote:
Originally Posted by Kazrah
I fixed he Lore just now lol; as Eloah said, it was quite easy to tie it in with Hildibrand Helidor, apparently I missed these quests and lore in my romp through FFXIV, and now I am eager to delve into them. =D -
05-21-2018, 11:21 PMEloah
I read your lore, and the moveset and have a few thoughts. For the lore, I feel you might of over thought the lore. I have an idea of how to interpret it, based on the Hildibrand quests. Based on your minions, you haven't finished the quest chain; surprise you get a minion, lol.
Also the concept for the moves has merit but to me feels somewhat disjointed. Granted I did gloss over it but from a few concepts I noticed, it looks like some mechanics are themed slightly differently than what you'd expect. Since we have downtime today, I might show you what I mean and share it with you, so you can see what I mean. But regardless of and feedback I or anyone else gives you, keep at these, flexing your creativity is never a bad thing. -
05-22-2018, 12:04 AMPatronasCharmThanks for the feedback! So I will rethink the Lore behind the job a little bit later on, after work lol; I've done some minor adjustments to the abilities, and utilized more iconic reoccurring abilities / spells from the history of the Time Mage in the Final Fantasy franchiseQuote:
Originally Posted by Eloah
For example, Light Arts is a new one, just to add a small uniqueness to its own merit, and I changed Omnipresence to Teleport.
Thanks again! Hopefully everyone looks forward to the new lore I'll present for the job, Time Knight / Chronos Knight =D -
05-22-2018, 12:06 AMKazrahPretty much this is what I thought too. For lore, it starts with answering three questions:Quote:
Originally Posted by Eloah
1) Where did this become a thing? Usually this is tied to a particular nation or region.
2) Why did this become a thing? Typically jobs are explained as solutions to particular problems.
3) How does this thing reach the prime protagonist? This would be either be a lone person or representative of some party.
Most of that stuff is there, but the rule of thumb when it comes to key NPCs for job storylines seems to be exclusivity to those stories and not to any other storyline within the game, with the only exception being Estinien due to potential favoritism (otherwise, he'd have been killed off in Heavensward). -
05-22-2018, 02:27 PMEloah
Okay so here is a little exert I sorta made to help you see what we mean by the lore. Also I used Chronosguard since I felt it sounded more "organizationy" based on what i wrote
Lore:
Ancient Sharlayan, the center of all knowledge throughout Eorzea, and Warden to those who desired to obtain it.
For centuries the Scholars of Sharlayan coveted the knowledge of Hydaelyn, preserving it for future generations to wield. Though desired by many, it was obtained by few, becoming vulnerable to the currents of time. Fearing the complete loss of all they have obtained, the implementation of an overseer became paramount. Thus, was the Order of the Chronosgaurd established.
Separated from time itself, the Chronosguard were tasked with not only preservation but also succession; finding those worthy enough to be adopted into the order. Wielders of scythes and dressed in blackened garb, the Chronosguard were the ones to give rise to the imagery of the reaper of souls. Alas, even those removed from time are not immune to it; with many a scar caused by the transgressions of man. Though mostly forgotten, those that remain are ever vigilant, stalwart in their duty to bestow unto others their collective knowledge.
Notes:
1: The quest is started in the Manderville Gold Saucer, to somewhat connect to the Hildibrand quests
2: Quan and Gigi* from the quest will be mentioned. Quan was to become a successor but his mentor was "removed" from him for some reason. He wasn't a bad person something just happened to his mentor.
3: Chronosguards are addressed by their last name, and the one you encounter at the Saucer is Chronosguard Quale, a Plainsfolk Lalafell whose full name is Dale Quale(subject to change, lol)
4: He is at the Saucer since he got a feeling a new recruit would present themselves there (you)
5: He has another recruit already named Quina, an female Plainsfolk Lalafell whose full name is Quinana Quina. (Lalafells were picked since they are the most androgynous)
6: Once you become a recruit, you learn about what it means to be a Chronosguard.
7: The quests would involve more references to FFIX, like the BLMs (Mammets, Porogos[frog drop] and locations like Ipsen's Castle, Fossil Roo, The Marsh, etc. -
05-22-2018, 08:08 PMPatronasCharmAwesome, I am just so grateful on the amount of time you're taking to help me out with this concept, I am humbled to the fullest. I will utilize this feedback and polish it even further =)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kazrah
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Originally Posted by Eloah
This is deep, and absolutely 100% incredible lol. Thank you for this, and if I am able to, I can utilize this as the groundwork for the beginning of polishing up the Lore behind this mysterious Chronosgaurd / Chronos Knight / Time Knight =)
Kazrah and Eloah y'all have been so helpful and just so patient with my concepts and I so appreciate all the feedback to helping me flesh out this vision of mine. I have a few concept drawings I can hopefully tack on to my image of how this job looks like alongside the Job Icon too.
I am swamped with work this week so I am hoping to get it all done by the end of the week. This is something I enjoy doing as a hobby, sort of like Fan Fiction I guess you can say.
See y'all soon, Pat out =)
*Quick Edit!! I also saw you tied a Scythe with the job as well, a weapon I want to see in FFXIV really badly lol; a Chronosgaurd with a scythe, I like it. I may have to completely change up the weapon skills behind the concept =D -
05-23-2018, 05:30 AMLinx0r
I like your idea but I wish the weapons would be a Gunbai war fan (as shield) and chained scythe for weapon. I’m not good with lore and coming up with skills but I think this combo would be a great new class to the series
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05-23-2018, 06:56 AMPatronasCharmThanks a lot!Quote:
Originally Posted by Linx0r
Tonight after work I’m going to re-do somethings alongside lore, and Work on some a new weapon for him that’ll be a scythe.
The name will change and that’ll also change in the title! -
05-23-2018, 07:19 AMLinx0rI hope that we get a new class and that it comes from your ideaQuote:
Originally Posted by PatronasCharm
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05-23-2018, 11:52 PMPatronasCharmAgain thank you! I’m hoping we get to see something along the lines of this, I’ve been wanting a sort of magic hybrid tank; I still need to polish it up, almost done with my reiteration on lore/history/ and changing weapon to scythe. Don’t know if I’ll add a shield to it for cosmetic and shield block use, but we’ll see what comes out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Linx0r
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05-24-2018, 12:55 AMRaynerH
I believe Link could be considered a Knight of Time. haha just need to give this Time Knight an ocarina and a boomerang!
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05-24-2018, 01:09 AMLeoLupinosThere we go:Quote:
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05-24-2018, 01:10 AMKazrahLore is what connects everything for the job. It explains why it exists in the game, why it serves the role it does, and (more importantly) why it uses what weapons it does.Quote:
Originally Posted by Linx0r
I'd go with "no" on this one given that such a weapon combo not only makes no real sense given the theme of the job, but any fluid weapons (i.e. chain-based weapons) are a royal pain to properly design. Yes, they're cool, but there's no real lore reason for them to be used, which is the more convincing part other than just the "it's cool" line. -
05-24-2018, 01:28 AMPatronasCharmThere could always be a fun little pun in the story where the main protagonist is a green garbed Chronosgaurd names Link! =DQuote:
Originally Posted by RaynerH
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05-24-2018, 10:28 PMPatronasCharmSo thanks to Eloah and the lore design he recommended, as well as your recommendation on the name, Chronosguard, I was able to somewhat paraphrase and repurpose it, (for the most part lol) and also added new Scythe Weapon Skills; etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kazrah
This is my last update, and hopefully I'll some what refine it later down the line with pictures of the Job itself, and how I pictured it in my head.
Thanks so much to Eloah and Kazrah for all the feedback, recommendations, and just overall support to have helped me flesh the job out even further then what it was.
I did the following updates:
- Updated the Lore (Story behind it) < May still need refinement
- Updated the Name of the Job, it was originally "Time Knight"
- Updated the Weapon and the Weapon Skills
- Updated certain abilities to somewhat match a newer "Job," but also have its Roots from a Time Mage
- Updated certain abilities to be a bit more Polished in Potencies and such
- Updated the Rotations to match the new WSes
Again, thanks so much, and there's a special thank you in there for Eloah and Kazrah and my best friend Aerro Hawk (Who I spoke to for assistance in tanking CDs and such), for all the help they did and how they helped me reshape the job.
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05-24-2018, 11:03 PMBrightshadow
I like the concept and the idea seems solid.
but I don't like the execution of how your Chronoguard opens up portals to bring cataclysm event to the present that sounds super dangerous lol.
The only time gate they should "perhaps" have is to open a gate so we can see a glimpse of the destruction power of the ascian ultima spell.
I also think Blink should be named Rewind sounds more time related. -
05-25-2018, 02:50 AMPatronasCharmWell, the purpose behind his abilities comes from the fact that he can open time portals , from a chronological standpoint, these events were grandiose, specifically in the time-line of Final Fantasy XIV and the Realm Reborn. *The Future Time-Lapses are of course made up, but seeing that Omega is on the loose and Ascian Overlord sort of orchestrating certain events, I added them to the mix.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brightshadow
His powers come from time manipulation, allowing him to control these events and use them as weapons. If I didn't implement these Chronological pieces, which was in the original concept, I would have still kept its original name.
Thus why it has a calamity from the past and the new one the Chronosguard who gave the player the powers, foresaw, from a vision of the future:
- The Lapse abilities are him manipulating time and sort of Rewinding it and Fast-Forwarding
Though I didn't add many Offensive Spells, only Demi and Banish, these Time-Lapses are spells conjured by his ability to control the flows of time.
As far as Blink being Rewind, I came up with an absolutely FUN way to incorporate Rewind! Check out my update and see for yourself =D -
05-25-2018, 01:36 PMMOZZYSTAR
I don't really see how a scythe works for a tank? It's a bit like a polearm so I see it as more of a DPS weapon. With the buffs and debuffs, it also reminds me of bard, so I would maybe call it a support DPS class? Granted, I'm not really considering anything else of your concept, just the overall "aesthetic."
Personally, I would much rather have a blue mage tank than a time mage tank (that could maybe learn some of these skills you want from monsters), though I do think this concept is cool. Maybe they could do blue tank + time DPS? Or maybe even a time healer as we need more healers and tanks in general. At the same time, AST kinda sorta can do an equivalent to "haste." Would definitely love a healer that did more debuffs, though. We used to have Disable and Stella, but those are the only debuffs (aside from paralysis) that I can think of that AST USED to have. -
05-26-2018, 06:37 AMEloah
OH OH OOOHHH!!!!!
regardless of anythgin else I may have said I have somethign for you that you MUST USE for a quest title... you ready...
A Wrinkle in Time
AHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!, LOL!!!! -
05-26-2018, 06:51 AMEloah
Also on a more serious note. I looked over you idea more in depth. Not gonna lie it brought a bit of a tear to my eye, allergies be damned. You have basically everything that needs to be there, there. There may be a few more adjustments to be had here and there, but it works. It fits in with the whole of FFXIV, but also does something new and not seen, and with some in game tweeking you could see it. There are a few things I'd change but at this point it's just me being pedantic. I have to say nice work. Cause my approval means everything, lol, T.T
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05-26-2018, 10:02 AMPatronasCharmA Wrinkle in Time huh? I'm sure we can tie-in "Teleport," "A new kind of space travel," to it as a spell unlock... if you're referring to the Disney show that is!? XDQuote:
Originally Posted by Eloah
And thanks! The feedback was so much appreciated!
Currently in the process of making my next masterpiece concept lol; hoping to finish it this weekend, but we'll see.