Guide: How To Thaumaturge

Thaumaturge:

The subject of Thaumaturge has been covered intensively by the world press over the past decade. Advancements in Thaumaturge can be linked to many areas. Indispensable to people today, several of today's most brilliant minds seem incapable of recognizing its increasing relevance to understanding future generations. Inevitably feelings run deep amongst the easily lead, trapped by their infamous history. Relax, sit back and gasp as I display the rich tapestries of Thaumaturge.

Social Factors

Society is a human product. The immortal and indispensable phrase ‘honesty is the best policy’ [1] saw clearly into the human heart. While deviating from the norm will always cause unrest amongst ones peers, Thaumaturge is crunchy on the outside but soft in the middle.

Our post-literate society, more than ever before, relies upon Thaumaturge. It has been said that the one thing in society which could survive a nuclear attack is Thaumaturge. This is incorrect, actually cockroaches are the only thing which can survive a nuclear attack.

Political Factors

Politics, we all agree, is a fact of life. Comparing Thaumaturge and much of what has been written of it can be like comparing the two sides of Thaumaturge.

We cannot talk of Thaumaturge and politics without remembering the words of style icon Noah T. Time 'Man's greatest enemy is complacency with regards to personal and political hygiene.' [2] Primarily, he is referring to Thaumaturge. Perhaps the word which sums up the importance of Thaumaturge to politics is 'participation'.
I wait anxiously. What will the next few years bring for Thaumaturge?

Conclusion

How much responsibility lies with Thaumaturge? We can say that Thaumaturge plays a large part in the lives of all. It establishes order, invades where necessary and most importantly it perseveres.

I will leave you with the words of Hollywood's Clint Hanks: 'At first I was afraid I was petrified. Thinking I could never live without Thaumaturge by my side.'

Equipment:

Let us commence a journey into the much travelled topic of Equipment. I find my self constantly drawn back to the subject of Equipment. While much has been written on its influence on contemporary living, it is important to remember that ‘what goes up must come down.’ Inevitably feelings run deep amongst socialists, who are likely to form a major stronghold in the inevitable battle for hearts and minds. In the light of this I will break down the issues in order to give each of them the thought that they fully deserve

Social Factors

Society is our own everyday reality. Back when Vealinger remarked ‘the power struggle will continue while the great tale of humanity remains untold’ [1] he created a monster which society has been attempting to tame ever since. Spanning divides such as class, race and ugliness, Equipment is crunchy on the outside but soft in the middle.

Recent thought on Equipment has been a real eye-opener for society from young to old. If society has a favorite child, it is Equipment.

Political Factors

Much of the writings of historians display the conquests of the most powerful nations over less powerful ones. Comparing current political thought with that held just ten years ago is like comparing the two, equally popular approaches to Equipment. If the reader is unaware of these, they need only to turn on the television, or pick up a newspaper or popular magazine.

We cannot talk of Equipment and politics without remembering the words of that most brilliant mind Elijah Woodpecker 'Man's greatest enemy is complacency with regards to personal and political hygiene.' [2] What a fantastic quote. Perhaps the word which sums up the importance of Equipment to politics is 'participation'.
Where do we go from here? Only time will tell.

Conclusion

In summary, Equipment has played a large part in the development of man in the 20th Century and its influence remains strong. It establishes order, brought up a generation and it brings the best out in people.

I shall give the final word to star Christina Beckham: 'It's been nice educating you.' [3]

Black Mage:

The subject of Black Mage is a controversial issue. I find my self constantly drawn back to the subject of Black Mage. While it has been acknowledged that it has an important part to play in the development of man, several of today's most brilliant minds seem incapable of recognizing its increasing relevance to understanding future generations. Inevitably Black Mage is often misunderstood by so called 'babies', who are likely to form a major stronghold in the inevitable battle for hearts and minds. Though I would rather be in bed I will now examine the primary causes of Black Mage.

Social Factors

While some scholars have claimed that there is no such thing as society, this is rubbish. The immortal and indispensable phrase ‘honesty is the best policy’ [1] shed new light on Black Mage, allowing man to take it by the hand and understand its momentum. While the western world use a knife and fork, the Chinese use chopsticks. Of course Black Mage clearly plays a significant role amongst the developing middle classes.

Nothing represents every day life better than Black Mage, and I mean nothing. Society says that every man must find their own truth. While one sees Black Mage, another may see monkeys playing tennis.

Political Factors

Politics - smolitics! Comparing the electoral politics of most Western and Eastern European countries is like comparing 0.

In the words of that most brilliant mind Bartholomew T. Time 'People in glass houses shouldn't throw parties.' [2] This clearly illustrates the primary concern of those involved with Black Mage. Perhaps the word which sums up the importance of Black Mage to politics is 'participation'.
The question which we must each ask ourselves is, will we allow Black Mage to win our vote?

Conclusion

We can say with certainty Black Mage has played a large part in the development of man in the 20th Century and its influence remains strong. It collaborates successfully, 'literally' plants seeds for harvest, and is always fashionably late.

I will leave you with the words of Hollywood's Demi Spielberg: 'Oooh yeah Black Mage shoo badaby dooo.' [3]

great tip on sanguin rite for farming and 1shot AoE fireaga. I should learn to read the spell text as I didn't realize this prevented interuptions.

Regarding Resonance:

I've found two useful scenarios on Ifrit at least. The first is when you have an opportunity to heal, buff, or raise someone, but they aren't in range. As movement is restricted during the Ifrit fight, this can let you raise or emergency cure people very far away when it would be dangerous to move in close. The second case partially depends on your preferred style of avoiding Eruption. I tend to run to the side, away from the CNJ, and to the back so that the multiple Eruptions don't spread out to cover more of the arena. While waiting for them to go off I can toss up Resonance in addition to any other buffs and begin casting Thunder on the way back to wherever the THMs are standing.

I'm glad you decided to start this guide. Hopefully people will throw out great contributions!

If you're doing ifrit you're most likely level 50 right? you have a trait onto sanguine rite which adds def when used, so when ifrit pops spikes, make sure you're stoneskinned up, when ifrit jumps pop sanguine rite. You won't need sentinel, but if you could pop it , it would help, more def always helps there.

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Originally Posted by zaviermhigo

If you're doing ifrit you're most likely level 50 right? you have a trait onto sanguine rite which adds def when used, so when ifrit pops spikes, make sure you're stoneskinned up, when ifrit jumps pop sanguine rite. You won't need sentinel, but if you could pop it , it would help, more def always helps there.

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If you've earned it on CNJ (and you should!) Sang Rite + Sacred Prism is fantastic. Your tank will love you for it if he's in range.

I've gone through the Ifrit fight but not the moogle fight due to exams and a ls dying out, so if anyone would like to put up more of a what a thm should be doing during the moogle fight I'd love it and thank them a lot ^^ and I'm sure for future reference it'd be great. It'd be nice to see a "how to ____(insert class)" in every class thread, that way new players go "hey thats what i should do during this." I've been playing since Open Beta, and with class changes it's like I am a new player haha.


Also his -enmity is low on the list but I find this really important, you can put enmity minus on two slots brand and belt, I would recommend doing that, instead of the mp, since you can stack mp on many other things.

With -10 enmity, and my bf as a tank with +9 enmity I do not pull hate, while curing, while nuking, I also don't spam either, but from regular maging you can be 10-20% less careful with throwing out cures and such its nice.

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Originally Posted by zaviermhigo

I've gone through the Ifrit fight but not the moogle fight due to exams and a ls dying out, so if anyone would like to put up more of a what a thm should be doing during the moogle fight I'd love it and thank them a lot ^^ and I'm sure for future reference it'd be great. It'd be nice to see a "how to ____(insert class)" in every class thread, that way new players go "hey thats what i should do during this." I've been playing since Open Beta, and with class changes it's like I am a new player haha.

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In my experience, in a ARC-heavy party, it's easy; there's nothing hard to learn like avoiding Ifrit's Explosions. In the first stage, nuke the moogles as they appear; use lightning except on the GLA (Whiskerwall)--he's weak to fire. When they revive and start summoning the King Moogle, gather with the rest of the party, generally in the center of the arena, sacred prism + sanguine rite and sentinel for the incoming hit. After that, keep on the move (except when you need to regen) and away from the moogles and help the party beat them down in order (you can find the standard kill order in any Moogle strategy doc, or just beat on the one everybody else is beating on). Don't nuke a moogle when he's big--he's invulnerable then (that's a good time to regen). If your party doesn't have enough ARCs, you'll probably be asked to use Blizzara to bind the GLA at the beginning of the second stage. And watch out for the THF (Tailturner), he's got a move that steals a large amount of MP.

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Originally Posted by zaviermhigo

If you're doing ifrit you're most likely level 50 right? you have a trait onto sanguine rite which adds def when used, so when ifrit pops spikes, make sure you're stoneskinned up, when ifrit jumps pop sanguine rite. You won't need sentinel, but if you could pop it , it would help, more def always helps there.

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To clarify, Sentinel doesn't increase your defence. It gives you damage reduction, which is why it is so effective against Hellfire/Memento Moogle.

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Originally Posted by Catapult

To clarify, Sentinel doesn't increase your defence. It gives you damage reduction, which is why it is so effective against Hellfire/Memento Moogle.

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Which means it should also work against a cactuar's needles...

Questions about your gear recommendations:

Main Hand: Have you thought about the Vintage Cudgel? I use one with a Hell's Eye IV and I get +26 m.acc and +22 m.crit rate from it, which is comparable or superior to the Mogstaff.

Legs: I understand some prefer the woolen tights, but why not mention the Felt Gaskins? I hadn't heard that one was definitively better than the other.

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Originally Posted by REDace0

Questions about your gear recommendations:

Main Hand: Have you thought about the Vintage Cudgel? I use one with a Hell's Eye IV and I get +26 m.acc and +22 m.crit rate from it, which is comparable or superior to the Mogstaff.

Legs: I understand some prefer the woolen tights, but why not mention the Felt Gaskins? I hadn't heard that one was definitively better than the other.

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I have been eyeballing the Vintage Cudgel lately, but haven't gotten around to actually purchasing one and parsing it. If you have any numbers or know any threads where the data was examined, I would be curious to look at the difference.

Woolen Tights were picked over Felt Gaskins just because of the small stats that come with them seemed more Thaum related. Felt Gaskins have +24 MP, +4 VIT, +4 PIE, where Woolen Tights have +15 MP, +2 INT, +2 MND. I'll add them as a suggestion though, some people might want a +4 VIT +4 PIE option.

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Main Hand: Have you thought about the Vintage Cudgel? I use one with a Hell's Eye IV and I get +26 m.acc and +22 m.crit rate from it, which is comparable or superior to the Mogstaff.

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I didn't have much time to test, so the sample amount for each weapon is much lower than it should be. I went and collected data on level 50 Zahar'ak Drubbers, doing nothing but Thunder over and over again. Each weapon received 40 unresisted thunder casts, which I then averaged together (crits and non-crits, as the whole picture needs to be examined). Here's what I got:

Vintage Cudgel: 482 Avg
Electrum Scepter with +MACC and it's native +6 AMP: 496 Avg

Since the sample amount for each weapon was so low, I am inclined to say that maybe either one was lucky with more/less crits; however, the difference between the two looks to be pretty negligible. Then for giggles, I threw on my Lightning Brand with +32 INT and came up with an average of 546 across 40 unresisted thunders. This isn't to say Lightning is better than both, but just to give an idea of the potency of more AMP and INT. You could also have that +32 on Electrum/Vintage.

Havn't seen Storm Sergeant Bliaud mentioned yet. Than piece is very good for Limsa GC members.

8+INT 8+MND 10+MACC for reference

edit: had the stats wrong sorry ><

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Havn't seen Storm Sergeant Bliaud mentioned yet. Than piece is very good for Limsa GC members.

10+INT 10+MND 10+MACC for reference

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Adding as a secondary option. Initially the list was going to be equipment anyone could obtain regardless of GC alliance, but that piece is too good not to mention.

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Originally Posted by Conradus

In my experience, in a ARC-heavy party, it's easy; there's nothing hard to learn like avoiding Ifrit's Explosions. In the first stage, nuke the moogles as they appear; use lightning except on the GLA (Whiskerwall)--he's weak to fire. When they revive and start summoning the King Moogle, gather with the rest of the party, generally in the center of the arena, sacred prism + sanguine rite and sentinel for the incoming hit. After that, keep on the move (except when you need to regen) and away from the moogles and help the party beat them down in order (you can find the standard kill order in any Moogle strategy doc, or just beat on the one everybody else is beating on). Don't nuke a moogle when he's big--he's invulnerable then (that's a good time to regen). If your party doesn't have enough ARCs, you'll probably be asked to use Blizzara to bind the GLA at the beginning of the second stage. And watch out for the THF (Tailturner), he's got a move that steals a large amount of MP.

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A few points to add to this

1. If you have a decent tank and decent DPS on the archers, you really shouldn't have to be on the move the whole fight. After the first 30 seconds or so after the King is spawned there are a lot of moogles and you may want to be wary of positioning (Flare, Moogle-go-Round) , but the THM should not have a terrible amount of enmity on the moogles, and should be ok to stand still and rest often. When using the Kiting method, the middle of the arena is one of the safest places to rest, just make sure to keep your eye on the King, or if he decides to move to the middle and flare while your casting, your days could be numbered :P

2. Using Blizzara is not just a "not enough archer thing" Its more of just about the best crowd control spell there is right now. Freezing 3-7 moogles in place, and cutting damage done by all of the moogles, while allowing DD's to focus on damage sounds like something that is rather helpful regardless of archer count. Use at the Moogle Memento as well as whenever it is up, preferably on the largest group of moogles you can find. Combine with Dark Seal for chilling effectiveness.

3. You do not have to be exclusively a damage mage, and can also greatly increase odds of survival for the party by occasionally casting stoneskin on the DD taking the most damage (Further helping this by combining with Sacred Prism to hit all surrounding players) , You can also cast Blizzard on Kupta Kapa (Marauder/Warrior mog) and inflict Heavy, slowing him down and cutting damage he can do significantly.

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Originally Posted by Brigandier

• Stone, Level Obtained: 1 Conjurer
  Deals earth damage, with chance to inflict MAGIC Evasion Down. Currently the in-game description lists it as "Evasion Down", which is a bit unclear. The damage is going to be a bit less than Thunder (unless they are weak against Stone), but the Magic Evasion Down debuff can be nice before starting in with real nukes; however, if you're needing to use this to keep from resisting you might consider just getting more MACC in gear/materia.

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As you can read right here, Maitre Gael from Rabanastre World pointed out that Stone spell's description on French client states that the debuff actually reduces magic evasion for earth spells. You can read the same description at Class Reforms & Action Lists post. It seems it's been mistranslated on English client.

Aside from that, very good guide overall. Cool work on here^^

Thank you to Conradus for his input /bow

And thank you Catapult, my bf plays gla (gld w/e haha), so I'm a little nubby to the moves, don't want me steering people in the wrong direction, I really have only played thm and sub cnj since open beta, I love the class.

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As you can read right here, Maitre Gael from Rabanastre World pointed out that Stone spell's description on French client states that the debuff actually reduces magic evasion for earth spells. You can read the same description at Class Reforms & Action Lists post. It seems it's been mistranslated on English client.

Aside from that, very good guide overall. Cool work on here^^

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Awesome info, updating the original post.

http://kanican.livejournal.com/54846.html

Kaeko Leta released this stat testing with some pretty interesting info. Link has been added to the bottom of the guide.

Did something change in the latest patch? Mahogony Pattens are Disciple of Hands only as far as I can see.

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Did something change in the latest patch? Mahogony Pattens are Disciple of Hands only as far as I can see.

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Only the enhanced ones (e.g. Mahogany Pattens of Vitality) are DoH-only. The regular ones are All Classes. I've seen many people using them because, unlike the Peisteskin Crakows of Invoking, Mahogany Pattens can support tier III and IV materia.

Booh :< My fault for hurrying to guy Pattens of Mind with Crit Materia because they were cheap :p I guess I know why now ^^;

Is Mask of the Mortal Hex not as good as the hat Because of materia?

Yes. /10char

I'm not sure if I should already know this... But what should I be spending my Allotment points on for THM/BLM? I've spent my 23 in INT so far and unsure about the last 22.

Mind. /10chars

Am i the only one confused on the OP? it didn't have anything to do with how to play THM... looked more on how to roleplay THM >_> lol...

It's outdated and irrelevant now.

i was gonna writ e guide too: mines simpler

cast thunder then thundera then thundaga, repeat

Great guide