LS-Houses instead of Mog-Houses

Hi,

I'd like to suggest replacing Mog Houses with LS Houses since we won't really need Mog Houses as much as we needed them in FFXI. When they come out, they will probably be empty rooms used to store a few items and equipments only.

In FFXI, Players needed Mog Houses to change their jobs mainly, and then later to store items and do some gardening, which won't apply to us here.

So, How about changing them to LS houses? Only LS leaders get to have a Mog House, a place for their members to gather, and they all can store their own items there individually. I think it will be much better this way, and it will be a huge upgrade the current LS system.

We're getting Free Company estates in addition to personal housing, from what I've read.

I want my own house that is mine and mine only. Now if you don't mind GET OFF MY LAWN DAMN IT!!!!

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・ハウジング（持ち家）の導入まずは、上記のフリーカンパニーのアジトとして導入予定。クラフターやギャザラーは、家のカスタマイズで活躍できる。将来的には、個人の持ち家へとつながっていく。Implementing housing (own home)First off planning to include as a base for above mentioned free company. Crafters and Gatherers will be able to customize the house. In the future will connect to own home.

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Personally I'd rather my own housing than guild housing if I had to make a choice of the two. As far as I see it though we will have highly customizable personal housing along with more structured guild housing.

I would rather both player house and LS hall connected to each other to form mini hamlet atmosphere like the more sandboxy MMO.

I'd like to have my own house i'll use it as a base

How about a housing area where we can actually SEE people's houses? And you know, there were actual properties you could buy and sell? XD

The "Free Company estates" idea is great, although I wish it was essentially linked to Linkshells. But to have both houses (Mog house and Free company house) won't be good in my opinion, it will make Mog houses even more abandoned. Entering an empty house isn't fun :P

We should just get one house and it should be shared between comrades, LS mates.

There are no Mog houses in this game nor will there be. It's personal housing. Moogles certainly do not serve us in this game.

Also, free company can very well just be made up of your own linkshell. As far as I know, they are free? Free company will just be open up to linkshells who want to an alliance with each other. Not particularly a company that needs to encompass undesirables in order to be formed.

I would like both personal and Linkshell housing. With options to leave them open to the public or not. =p

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Originally Posted by BruceyBruceyBangBang

There are no Mog houses in this game nor will there be. It's personal housing. Moogles certainly do not serve us in this game.

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Thanks for the tip, I'll fix it on the posts above. I just used the name the majority are familiar with from XI.

I'm all for shared estates but I also want my own home that I make the way I want.

That's not how it's explained. Personal Housing is personal housing no matter if you have one or another affiliated with your free company. The free company housing is personal housing, but your free company companions are your neighbors in the instanced area. You still have your own home among a free company.

I'll support this with a quote soon.

I hope they dont cop out and make it similar to XI where its interior only, if anyones seen Aions or Archage's housing you can customize the outside, paint the house and so on, you even have neighbors lol AND A LAWN!

Its pretty simsville

But I think they could do something like this first which would be much easier and allow anyone you invite to be able to go in and see your house, give them specific rules.

That way you could
- Keep your home to yourself
- Invite others and have it as a sort of "LS" home, maybe all pitch in to upgrade it or w/e

I dont think there is any changing their minds tho lol once they have an idea its usually set in stone.

It would be nice to have both I suppose, but I want a personal house over a ls/company house that I can call my own regardless of which ls/company I am in. Besides, if its owned by that many people, its more of a dorm and you would inevitably see design/style choices and opinions clash. I want something I have full control over.

I want a house of my own that i can customize and put furniture in to my liking.
free company estates are great for a group to meet up and hang out but if you don't have your own house you're homeless if you don't join a company or it disbands and every work you may put in will be lost when you change your free company.

its more of a "my home" versus "a place i hang out with people" like a club

I'm going to need a ranch for all my future mounts. Oh... and a canning factory for a possibly but probably not unrelated topic.

Linkshell house
I have 8 linkshells
So that 8 houses

And if I get kick from one of them, I also get kick from the house

Hence, dev I request a scene/FMV/whatever that shows player being kick from their house
FUND IT

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Originally Posted by ShellQ8

In FFXI, Players needed Mog Houses to change their jobs mainly, and then later to store items and do some gardening, which won't apply to us here.

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You know that each MH will get his own Garden for Gardening, right?

I don't think a LS house is a good idea. LS is supposed to be a chat channel that links players, while free company is what other MMOs have as guilds. So, a personal home and a free company area make sense.

It would be really cool if they allowed free company leaders to create a custom map for the free company which would then be somehow incorporated in the game, for a very high fee so that only big companies can afford it.... but I don't see that happening outside fictional scenarios like .hack// series xD

I disagree with only LS leaders having a house, that's dumb. I think it would be best as:

-Personal player housing

-LS building (fortress, castle, guild hall, shack, whatever)

That way people get to have their own personal spaces to live in/decorate and then the LS as a whole has a large shared space that the LS as a whole can contribute to. Though you'd probably have to switch LS to Free Company but it works either way.

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Originally Posted by ShellQ8

Hi,

I'd like to suggest replacing Mog Houses with LS Houses since we won't really need Mog Houses as much as we needed them in FFXI. When they come out, they will probably be empty rooms used to store a few items and equipments only.

In FFXI, Players needed Mog Houses to change their jobs mainly, and then later to store items and do some gardening, which won't apply to us here.

So, How about changing them to LS houses? Only LS leaders get to have a Mog House, a place for their members to gather, and they all can store their own items there individually. I think it will be much better this way, and it will be a huge upgrade the current LS system.

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Our homes will be used to store items, do gardening, have the possibility of personalizing it and much more.
Also, it's already being coded by the devs. It's something Yoshi-P put a lot of pressure on just like the chocobo (which means it will definitely be a win).

So, I say we need both personal homes and Free Company halls. Not linkshell houses, linkshells are like cellphones in FFXIV, not guilds.

OP, why do you assume that the houses will be copy-pasta from FFXI? They can come up with new ideas for houses you know...

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Originally Posted by ShellQ8

When they come out, they will probably be empty rooms used to store a few items and equipments only.

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Have you read about what Yoshi said about Housing?! -.-

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Originally Posted by Masamune1004

OP, why do you assume that the houses will be copy-pasta from FFXI? They can come up with new ideas for houses you know...

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I'm not assuming that it would be copy-paste from FFXI and I know you're right, they will probably find very interesting ideas for those houses.

I'm just thinking that it would be much better, and more fun if those houses are only for groups, Linkshells. Because a personal house, no matter how customizable it will be, in the end only you will be in it, even if it's publicly visible, at best, your friend will enter it once to see it then leave.

But if it's linked to your LS, it would be much better, because whenever you're in it, there will always be someone who's there, either crafting, or just sitting. And it will give more meaning to having a "Main LS" and focusing on it.

This idea might not be appealing to everyone, but I like it and I think it will give more personality to Linkshells. Rather than adding a new social system (companies) and complicating things. It's bad enough that every player now has 2 Linkshells to 8, why add another group?

But then again I might be wrong, it's just how I feel.

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Originally Posted by ShellQ8

Because a personal house, no matter how customizable it will be, in the end only you will be in it, even if it's publicly visible, at best, your friend will enter it once to see it then leave.

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I see someone never met a Miqo'te with a weak moral compass. And it is for that very reason that personal housing should be separate from linkshell/company/cult or whatever communal housing they come up with. I mean who doesn't need a private place to rub pixels together and /emote. Does your linkshell really want to see that? Think about it.

A fair bit of mis-information going on here but that can't be held against due to the fact that there is very little information on this topic, but here is what i understood.

Patch 1.21 will bring 'Rent-a-Rooms' provided at an 'Inn'. (Lets not call them Mog Houses as you will be disappointed if thats what you want from this.)

After 2.0, we will have the opportunity to create a 'Free Company Estate', with a minimum of four players in the company. This will be highly customisable through crafting and may even be in 'open-world-zones' i.e viewable by everyone.

And in the last LFTP before the holidays, Yoshi-P mentioned this: "Mockups for player “estate” areas are moving along, and we’re now working on some of those artsy details."

Linkshell House would be cool. A liviing room / dining roon/ kitchen /. . . Please give us more than one bathroom >.< / And I still want my own bedroom. I will not fight for a spot on the couch. If there is no room, prepare to be sat on. How about a recreation room in the basement or something? A bar / air hockey table / darts / an arcade machine that can play old school Square titles?

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Originally Posted by ShellQ8

I'm just thinking that it would be much better, and more fun if those houses are only for groups, Linkshells.

But then again I might be wrong, it's just how I feel.

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You are wrong, it's just how I feel. ;>)

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Originally Posted by Davorok

You are wrong, it's just how I feel. ;>)

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Noted, thanks. :)

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Estates! I think if they pull them off properly that'll be a real selling point for me. Being able to group up the houses of your close friends (via free company) into an estate where you can all interact and build things together (in one interview Yoshida suggested they might add a dock for the possibility of building ships beneath the estate I seem to remember).

Would really help to create a true individual community feeling, although hopefully the estates wouldn't all look identical and would be able to accomodate a decent amount of people.

Thinking about it, they could really go nuts in the kinds of options you could have here. Perks for free companies could include new features and decorations for your estate to show off achievements, and it could be turned into a real group effort to maintain and develop individual estates and personalise them, whilst also giving people their own houses and gardens that others can't edit but can obviously visit (and leave presents?)

It'd be cool if estates had randomly generated features (like the tower on the right) to give character, that one looks like it's designed based around limsa lominsa, hopefully there won't just be one design per grand company.

Player housing should be kept separate from the free company housing. But, there should also be housing options in which players can design their own housing for the free companies.

You don't need to propose one instead of the other. You'll be getting both.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

You don't need to propose one instead of the other. You'll be getting both.

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This is true. ^^

I want need my own place, please.

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Originally Posted by Sephr

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Estates! I think if they pull them off properly that'll be a real selling point for me.

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Oh, and you will have to pay.

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Originally Posted by Youmukon

Afin d'éviter une certaine inflation il est aussi prévu que les futurs quartiers marchands résidentiels ponctionnent les bourses de certains joueurs. Il en est de même pour certains contenus haut niveau. (Cela ne veut pas dire que ces contenus ou que les quartiers marchands ne seront uniquement accessibles qu’aux personnes fortunés !)

In order to avoid inflation it is planned that the future merchant residential quarters (housing) will cost a significant sum of gil. The same will apply to certain end game contents[Dynamis, anyone?](This does not mean that the player housing, nor these end game contents will be uniquely accessible to rich players!)

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Sorry but I do not want anyone else with control over my items. Under your scenerio an LS leader could deny you accesas to your items and keep them for him/herself in a number of ways. Implementing safeguards for this would require alot of unneccessary programming.