This is going to be exactly as horrible as last time

Preempting my own blinding rage for when the servers come back online and it turns into a horror show like the Shirogane patch.

Paltry number of new wards

Available as soon as maintenance ends (which will end a little early btw)

Nonsensical restriction that allows only FC's to buy houses (good) but allows personal home owners to relocate (wtf??? :confused: )


I'm expecting an unresponsive client, into a multi-thousand person queue, only to log on and see every plot gone in every district literally within minutes.

I don't however expect them to apologize this time and claim to work on a fix. If this is the best they could come up with i've given up hope

The devs said houses will go on sale an hour after servers restart. So... maybe?

Did they? I know it was said through a translation but apparently people haven't been able to confirm it from anywhere else so a lot of people are skeptical of it being an hour later so you'll still get a huge rush at the time with dcs.

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The devs said houses will go on sale an hour after servers restart. So... maybe?

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I keep hearing people say this and not be able to cite where it's said.

If it's not on down on paper somewhere, don't believe it.

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Available as soon as maintenance ends (which will end a little early btw)

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In order to address further issues, the maintenance accompanying Patch 4.2 Hotfixes and the addition of housing wards originally scheduled to begin at 10:00 p.m. (PST) will now begin earlier, at 9:00 p.m. (PST). There will be no changes to the completion time.

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When it comes to housing, they normally don't bring up the servers early.

It also says "Completion time subject to change" right below that, so I'm not sure what to believe.

Saying "A Ritual Prayer" for all of you that have been homeless for so long. As for myself. I will be content with my medium in the Beds. I don't like Shiro and it's not worth the relocation work and agro to try for Mist beachfront. Good luck and "Save the Homeless!!!"

That's a default they add to every single one. It's more in case they run into a problem and have to take longer. Any time they've said it won't come earlier, they've meant it. They had the same line in 4.2 as well which was on top because of the world first races and timer resets and such.

I would not expect them to add a waiting period for plot purchases after the servers are up, this to me sounds like a bad rumor and I would put zero stock in it.

It's true that they don't usually end maintenance early for housing updates but it's always safe to prepare for it and I kind of expect it more this time because I feel they might want to switch things up this go around. It's one of the few things I feel they would be willing to try in any case. Not that it would really do much lol.

I can't find anyone that speaks Japanese to verify this from last live letter. It looks like we may be in for a huge let down again.
Good luck everyone. I hope we can make it worth the lack of sleep.

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It also says "Completion time subject to change" right below that, so I'm not sure what to believe.

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They put that there in case the time ends up being longer then what they said.

Well I guess we'll see if the 1hr later thing happens or not.

From what I've been seeing the line came from a fan translation on Reddit but no one's been able to actually get anything official since then. That doesn't make it untrue but that also means it's better to play it safe since we won't actually know until servers are up more then likely. Also I don't think it'll be as bad though probably still not great. I think medium / larges will go fast and the nicer plots that are more wanted will go fast, but a lot of the more basic run of the mill houses will be around a bit longer. I still wouldn't be surprised if there was a queue and errors though since there's still going to be a decent number of people trying to get on at the same time regardless.

I'm no good with disappointment. Especially as this time I have the added aggravation of my own ISP! Wind storm my ass!

I really shouldn't be crushed like last time. My faith in this system is at near zero. But really, I'm feeling anxious already... not good...

We all are feeling something about getting a house later. And it's weird. Don't think I ever had this experience anywhere else. I keep reminding myself it's just a game. But why am I putting up with the unpleasantness of this whole thing? We all know there will be winners and losers out of this. Don't we all wanna play with people who also enjoy themselves in the game instead of a disgruntled bunch? In real life when you realize a host isn't treating every guest equally well, at some point you stop going to their parties. And I don't know what kind of character you have to still wanna keep going despite the fact. Now I'm thinking even if I got a house for my FC, it wouldn't exactly reflect well on me. Like seriously, who would willingly go through all this?

Someone who has invested so much in the game. And despite the outcome later, I'm already questioning if even playing it at all was time well spent. I dunno man, this whole thing got me soul searching it's weird.

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Someone who has invested so much in the game. And despite the outcome later, I'm already questioning if even playing it at all was time well spent. I dunno man, this whole thing got me soul searching it's weird.

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I think the most frustrating part is that no matter how hard you work to save up gil for something as amazing as a house, it all comes down to pure luck after hours of waiting through maintenance in the early morning. Rather than even try any creative solutions to the housing problem they'd rather keep subjecting us to this torment. You'd think a company as big as Square Enix would be able to invest in a solution, especially with how successful the game continues to be.

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Nonsensical restriction that allows only FC's to buy houses (good) but allows personal home owners to relocate (wtf??? :confused: )

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Why is it such a big deal that personal home owners are allowed to relocate? The plot that they move away from opens up for purchase, the total amount of plots available remains the same.

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Why is it such a big deal that personal home owners are allowed to relocate? The plot that they move away from opens up for purchase, the total amount of plots available remains the same.

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It creates more competition for medium/large houses, and the house they open up will go on sale at a random time.

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It creates more competition for medium/large houses, and the house they open up will go on sale at a random time.

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Iirc when someone relocates the plot opens immediately.

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Why is it such a big deal that personal home owners are allowed to relocate? The plot that they move away from opens up for purchase, the total amount of plots available remains the same.

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With the across the board nerf to housing prices and the amount of time since housing came out during Heavensward everyone and their mum has enough gil for a medium AT LEAST. Even with the amount of wards they are adding there is no way the amount of new Mediums and especially Larges can meet the demand for them. With every personal plot owner being given the same chance on them as an FC they will sell out within minutes, giving FCs that wanted to upgrade from the small they've had since 3.2 a snowball's chance in hell. That's the gist of it I think. Absolute bunk system that favors people who already have houses... oh and some FCs I guess. Thanks Obama.

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Iirc when someone relocates the plot opens immediately.

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They are open for relocation, but not for purchase, or so I hear.

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With the across the board nerf to housing prices and the amount of time since housing came out during Heavensward everyone and their mum has enough gil for a medium AT LEAST. Even with the amount of wards they are adding there is no way the amount of new Mediums and especially Larges can meet the demand for them. With every personal plot owner being given the same chance on them as an FC they will sell out within minutes, giving FCs that wanted to upgrade from the small they've had since 3.2 a snowball's chance in hell. That's the gist of it I think. Absolute bunk system that favors people who already have houses... oh and some FCs I guess. Thanks Obama.

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So the issue moved from "FCs wanting a house" to "FCs wanting a bigger house"?

The only difference is medium/large plots having more garden plots, which doesn't seem like that big of a deal to me.

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The new plot will still have a random timer tied to it for new purchases. The only thing that bypasses any and all timers is relocation. Buyers that do not have a house to relocate are subject to the wait.

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Iirc when someone relocates the plot opens immediately.

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When they relocate, the plot is temporarily unavailable, as said at the bottom here. https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...164.1517317047

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When they relocate, the plot is temporarily unavailable, as said at the bottom here. https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...164.1517317047

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"* During this period, plots will still be available for relocation."

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So the issue moved from "FCs wanting a house" to "FCs wanting a bigger house"?

The only difference is medium/large plots having more garden plots, which doesn't seem like that big of a deal to me.

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It might not seem like a big deal to you but consider an FC with 100+ members being stuck with a small and even LESS of gardening opportunities compared to a Large, and Joe Schmoe across the street all by himself is running a Lowes out of his front yard.

Plus all that extra room for parties and social times and stuff. But that isn't GAMEPLAY so I guess it doesn't count huh. Either way it's ridiculous. They should just redesign the wards and make the spread more even if they're not going to change the core system. I'm not saying Large houses should be FC only, but there are simply not enough of them. Not anymore. They don't cost 100mil+ back when the game first came out and everyone was poor.

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Right but you need to own a house to relocate.

Are you guys even sure they are adding and unlocking it today? Considering the big red bolded part in the last patch notes and there being no announcement of a finalized date.
4.2 Patch Notes.

All Worlds maintenance starts tonight at 9pm (PT) and will not end before 2am (PT) due to the introduction of additional housing wards.

(According to their twitter thingy.)

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Are you guys even sure they are adding and unlocking it today? Considering the big red bolded part in the last patch notes and there being no announcement of a finalized date.
4.2 Patch Notes.

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Yes, they are adding the new wards tonight.
From the Maintenance announcement on the Lodestone:

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In order to accompany Patch 4.2 Hotfixes as well as the addition of housing wards, we will be performing maintenance on all Worlds at the time below, during which FINAL FANTASY XIV will be unavailable.

We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause, and we thank you for your understanding.

[Date & Time]
Feb. 5, 2018 10:00 p.m. to Feb. 6, 2018 2:00 a.m. (PST)
* Completion time is subject to change.

[Affected Worlds]
All Worlds

* The World Transfer Service will be suspended 30 minutes before maintenance begins, and will be unavailable until maintenance has ended.

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Welp, I had imagined something bigger than that. Like a big front page "We are adding them now." At any rate I wish the FCs out there good luck regardless.

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Welp, I had imagined something bigger than that. Like a big front page "We are adding them now." At any rate I wish the FCs out there good luck regardless.

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They also put this up: https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes.../housing_land/