"Your destination is currently congested. Please try again later."

Well just got this message, tried to go to Ixion but the zone is too crowded for all of us that want the FATE to even go in. So, it goes without saying that this is pretty ridiculous considering that "later" the FATE won't be up and there won't be any reason for me to even want to go there.

I don't care if the zone is congested and I don't want to try again later, just let me zone in so I can do the FATE.

...you know that when the the zone that is congested lets you in you wont be able to do the Fate but instead just cause a mass-DC, right?

I get that the "solution" right now is not ideal but "just letting everyone in" isnt an option either without having the whole thing crash...

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Originally Posted by Khalithar

I don't care if the zone is congested and I don't want to try again later, just let me zone in so I can do the FATE.

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Does this work in other parts of your life? Like when on the freeway during rush hour and it backed up.

It's keeping you out so that the people already there can actually do the fate instead of DCing.

So let's say the shoe was on the other foot. You were already in and people were trying to get into the full instance... Would you rather:
A) Keep them out so that instance doesn't crash out and burn
B) Let them in, have everyone in the instance DC, followed by the instance resetting itself (and thus I believe also despawning the FATE)

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Originally Posted by Anzaman

Just love how this system "forces" people to sit in the zone to keep slot for themselves for Ixion spawn. There has been cases where some people have straight up declined all other in-game activity since Ixion could spawn and they don't want to risk it. If you ask me, I think this is bad game design.

Was waiting Ixion earlier, decided to go do daily hunts for some experience and centurios. Ixion spawned and I couldn't get back to Lochs since it was full.

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A possible solution could be you get a timed amount of access to each area, say per day or something. If the instance fills up and you've used your time, you get teleported out. To cover it lore wise (since SE loves to make everything work lore-wise), just have aetherial corruption cause your character to be teleported against your will.

This sucks, and I know I'm going to get flames to high heaven and called to never post on the forums again for this idea (not by you specifically, I mean more in general), but I do believe we need to look for solutions that aren't simply "Buy more server capacity" since it's blindingly obvious that FFXIV's spaghetti code makes it impossible to scale it. They need to fix it aye, but I don't think they will because there's not enough profit to be had from it compared to the workload involved.

Just love how this system "forces" people to sit in the zone to keep slot for themselves for Ixion spawn. There has been cases where some people have straight up declined all other in-game activity since Ixion could spawn and they don't want to risk it. If you ask me, I think this is bad game design.

Was waiting Ixion earlier, decided to go do daily hunts for some experience and centurios. Ixion spawned and I couldn't get back to Lochs since it was full.

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Originally Posted by Lexia

Does this work in other parts of your life? Like when on the freeway during rush hour and it backed up.

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Yes pull over lanes are there for a reason.

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Originally Posted by Anzaman

Just love how this system "forces" people to sit in the zone to keep slot for themselves for Ixion spawn. There has been cases where some people have straight up declined all other in-game activity since Ixion could spawn and they don't want to risk it. If you ask me, I think this is bad game design.

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If you ask me, I think this is just a bad choice people are making for themself.
Those people who are camping this FATE now decided that they needed the mount now - they're the only ones forcing them(self) to stay in that zone and neglect the rest of the game. If getting the mount is this important for them... sure...

Dont get me wrong: I'd like to have Ixion in time aswell, FFX is my favorite game of the series after all. But I know that just as it was with every other big Fate, that once the hype is gone and everyone calmed down a bit (a few people might got their mount already and dont care anymore), I'll get mine aswell - without the instance crashing.

Is it really bad design when they plan for the long run instead of for the first two weeks after release? I wouldnt say so - this is one of the longterm goals we've got in the game. If some people need it now and are willing to make the needed sacrifices for it: their choice, alright, have your mount, feel special because of it.

I know this situation isnt ideal and that a lot of people wont like my personal solution of "just wait til the hype is gone nad you'll be able to get your shot", but I like that the devs arent only releasing content that is relevant for the 2-weeks-hype but will give me something to do over time.
I know I'll be playing this game for quite a bit longer - I can wait, I dont need everything now, thats my choice. If you do - thats your choice. Now the question is ofc: Whos happier...?

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Originally Posted by Vidu

If you ask me, I think this is just a bad choice people are making for themself.
Those people who are camping this FATE now decided that they needed the mount now - they're the only ones forcing them(self) to stay in that zone and neglect the rest of the game. If getting the mount is this important for them... sure...

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Just felt a bit frustrated knowing that I had just stayed there a little while longer, I would have gotten two more items towards the mount - and instead got "punished" for leaving the zone and going to actually play the game meanwhile.

I know one player who absolutely wants the mount, I don't really care that much, happy with my Chocobo. He sat in Lochs for two days straight, waiting for it. Then he decided to accept help request from another Free Company member.. and sadly Ixion spawned and died while he was inside 70 trial fight.

It's just you never know when it will spawn - during toilet break, while you sleep, making dinner?

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Originally Posted by Anzaman

Just felt a bit frustrated knowing that I had just stayed there a little while longer, I would have gotten two more items towards the mount - and instead got "punished" for leaving the zone and going to actually play the game meanwhile.

I know one player who absolutely wants the mount, I don't really care that much, happy with my Chocobo. He sat in Lochs for two days straight, waiting for it. Then he decided to accept help request from another Free Company member.. and sadly Ixion spawned and died while he was inside 70 trial fight.

It's just you never know when it will spawn - during toilet break, while you sleep, making dinner?

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Which is why camping it is generally a stupid waste of time. I'll go there and do my crafting when it's open and I have a lot to craft and I do some gathering in the Lochs anyway, but you're going to waste so much time if you just camp it. This is one of those fates people will still be doing later, unlike most of the other boss fates, so there's no real rush and you can count on getting it eventually just by making it a priority to show up when it's called.

Question.

What is this ixion fate I keep hearing about and why is it so popular?

And what zone is it even in?

The final zone you unlock in SB. Killing Ixion with a gold rating will give you enough horns to get the Ixion mount(I believe, I've only ever gotten silver and it gives 1 horn for that)

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Originally Posted by Avatre

The final zone you unlock in SB. Killing Ixion with a gold rating will give you enough horns to get the Ixion mount(I believe, I've only ever gotten silver and it gives 1 horn for that)

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You need 12 horns and gold rating give 2.

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Question.

What is this ixion fate I keep hearing about and why is it so popular?

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It's a fate that gives this mount:
https://i.redd.it/ugspwcdelo5z.png

That's also what the fate mob looks like. You need 12 horns. You get 2 for gold, 1 for silver, and lolenjoyyourwastedtime for bronze. It's like Courlregina or Odin or other special fates where it has its own weather to indicate that the fate is up but isn't visible on the map until discovered and spawns like every 36-72 hours.

Huh. Welp. Good think I don't care much for horse mounts lol.

But I won't lie that actually looks really cool... =(

Mass DC people talked about in this thread is not a joke actually. I really happens in congested areas. Which is basically every S rank and Ixion spawn on Ragnarok.

http://i.imgur.com/TYFW06L.jpg

Strange, I wasn't aware this could even happen with FFXIV.

Most games will just automatically create more instances of a zone if it's near the limit. Even basket case SWTOR does that.

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Originally Posted by Waaltar

Strange, I wasn't aware this could even happen with FFXIV.

Most games will just automatically create more instances of a zone if it's near the limit. Even basket case SWTOR does that.

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FFXIV generally doesn't need it. To be honest, I find it pretty disruptive and not fun, so I'm glad it doesn't work this way in this game. It was a change I went through in WoW and I really didn't like the results.

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Originally Posted by Waaltar

Strange, I wasn't aware this could even happen with FFXIV.

Most games will just automatically create more instances of a zone if it's near the limit. Even basket case SWTOR does that.

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They were doing this but I haven't seen instances since the latest patch.

to those of you complaining about people camping the fate and how its a stupid waste of time....... its those types of people that are going out of their way to insure that the calls are made to the public so that "YOU" can also participate if you're fast enough. This is not just related to ixion fate, its also related to the S and A ranks. Also before any of you mention about the websites that actually tell you when the spawn occurs anyone who has actually searched for them can tell you that they dont work half of the time and requires people to actively search for them.

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to those of you complaining about people camping the fate and how its a stupid waste of time....... its those types of people that are going out of their way to insure that the calls are made to the public so that "YOU" can also participate if you're fast enough. This is not just related to ixion fate, its also related to the S and A ranks. Also before any of you mention about the websites that actually tell you when the spawn occurs anyone who has actually searched for them can tell you that they dont work half of the time and requires people to actively search for them.

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Maybe on dead servers. On Balmung, there are just enough people out and about that a super obvious weather change will be noticed and then reported back to linkshells. Nobody camps Odin or Courlregina or Proto Ultima anymore, but those still get called regularly. It's also completely different from hunt mobs, which are much more easily targeted thanks to hunt trackers and spawn mechanics, which results in far less wasted time in general. People complain when it takes four hours to spawn Zona Seeker. Compare that to the 12+ hours people spent in the Lochs today waiting for an Ixion spawn that never came.

Omg why even weaks after 10000000% full launch of sb people defending this bs?
People cant even do fates in the open world now and its some how ok?
Looks like se's fix is just wait for up to 50% of player to leave.

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Originally Posted by Khalithar

Well just got this message, tried to go to Ixion but the zone is too crowded for all of us that want the FATE to even go in. So, it goes without saying that this is pretty ridiculous considering that "later" the FATE won't be up and there won't be any reason for me to even want to go there.

I don't care if the zone is congested and I don't want to try again later, just let me zone in so I can do the FATE.

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Self entitlement at its finest. Disgusting

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Originally Posted by Charlayy

Self entitlement at its finest. Disgusting

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I think its way more self entitlement to full afk there for 24h preventing people doing the MSQ because they can't get into Lochs, Ala Migho and to the end of SB or people missing gathering spots or not being able to do the last botanist quest (which was true in my case and iirc Ixion showed up 6-7 hours later, lol).

Everyone who just afk's there is an self entitled selfish prick who wants be rewarded for literally doing nothing for long periods of time. Disgusting.
And because we already know the fate (huehue) of fates like this.. it's also pretty stupid.

Wasting time with afk'ing for little to no nreason while preventing people from actually playing the game. Just as disgusting as regular afk'ers preventing people from logging in.

Sucks for the poor souls who needs to enter Lochs for MSQ