Templar's Cobalt Vambraces & Templar's Kite Shield Request!

Templar's Cobalt Vambraces & Templar's Kite Shield Request!


I want to begin by stating that the Temple Knight set is my favorite glamour set currently in the game and has been since it first appeared in 1.0 via Faction Levequests and thereby rewarded to the player from Rowena.

I love the lore surrounding it, the meaning of wearing that armor, and the visual-style of it. I guess you can say, I'm a pretty passionate fan of Ishgard and their loyal knights. http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/i...ilies/wink.png

Original Lodestone Lore Description

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Worn by Ishgardian temple knights who have pledged their lives in service of the Fury, this suit of stunning silver plate and chain is an breathtaking display of master craftsmanship.

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Original 1.0 Set


http://i.imgur.com/c3A7PRN.jpg


Now, I can't speak for anyone else, but I figured after seeing a lot of attention and dev responses for certain glamour requests recently, I figured I'd make one selfish request that I've been praying for since ARR launched.

I've been hanging onto my Templar outfit since 1.0 and have always used it as my main glamour for Paladin and Dragoon. The entire set is available to obtain to look like the Ishgardian Temple Knights, minus the lack of the Templar's Blue Cobalt Vambraces and the Templar's Kite Shield.

The House Fortempt and regular Cobalt Vambraces are what I've been using, but just aren't the same.

I know this request falls at the bottom of the bin in a long list of player requests in comparison to the more pressing matters around here, but I figured if I don't at least try and ask for something I really, really want, then no one will ever know or even attempt to make it a reality.

Ideas For Implementation

1) ~ Templar's Kite Shield ~

http://i.imgur.com/2zqQYXN.png

• A) This can either come from a side quest series dealing with the lore and stories that can be told about the Temple Knights and they're stories as protectors of Ishgard and Coerthas. The final reward can be the Templar Shield. I would find this option very enjoyable and interesting, since I have an affinity for Ishgard and the Templars ever since 1.0 revealed them.

http://i.imgur.com/mQGKPGI.jpg

• B) A faster idea for implementation is either as a Gold Saucer reward? An Aquapolis rewards. A crafted level 1 glamour item, or a level 44 item drop from Dzemael Darkhold, just like the rest of the Templar's set. It could also come from Diadem, somehow, as a random item reward when turning in lockboxes. Just some ideas to quickly add it in.

The item currently exists and doesn't need to be created from scratch, unlike most requested items; so implementing it as a player item and figuring out where to place it is the only work required.

2) ~ Templar's Cobalt Vambraces ~

http://i.imgur.com/wlFQpSo.png

This one is a bit tricky to explain, and I'll go into my reason why. This item actually used to be a real player item in 1.0, however, since ARR launched it became a dated item that no longer exists anymore.

It used to be a pair of Cobalt Vambraces that if you combined it with blue dye when crafting it would turn into a pair of Cobalt vambraces (Blue). These gloves would go on to become the now-famous Templar's Vambraces.

I know this because I made a pair for myself in 1.0 with triple materia melded to it before I knew what they would become in ARR.

http://i.imgur.com/R3T404Z.jpg


Idiotically, I turned them in for the very first tomestones you could collect at ARR's launch for the last few pieces of Darklight gear I was missing for my character's Dragoon when they were still considered to be the best piece of gear in the game at that time as a 1.0 player.

http://i.imgur.com/fyC8eO1.jpg

Unfortunately, the only way to get them back is to have someone from the dev team copy/paste select-data from our character's 1.0 final save history to the same character (probably not even a possibility at this point in time), or by crafted a pair of Cobalt Vambraces as an Armorer and doing the best you can to make it look like the old blue style.

http://i.imgur.com/TYxeZNR.jpg

Which brings me to my first point...

http://i.imgur.com/gvOzcnP.jpg

• A) Update the current dye system to allow painting select parts of the gear that you cannot currently paint.

Example: The metal portion of several types of vambraces ONLY allow you to paint the clothed glove-portion. The metal part cannot be selected on any type of vambrace. There are many instances will more than just this gear that have this major issue of limited choice in customization.

I was hoping with the gain in more system memory after dropping the PS3 that this could be fixed in either Stormblood at some point (no rush!) or a later patch/expansion?

So, that's my first suggestion. It's not an easy thing to ask, but I think this suggestion would go even above and beyond just the piece of gear I'm asking for, but even go as far as to completely re-vitalize and revamp the entire dye system freedom of choice altogether with players being allowed to dye more various portions and whatnot on their characters.

Simplifying it further would be to have the dye system offer a "Portion A and Portion B" dye areas. This means that, for example, the metal portion of the dye could be considered Portion B, and the current cloth portion of the vambrace to be considered as Portion A. This means less work for the devs in expanded everything's dye area for all gear and still allows for more expanded freedom.

• B) The easiest and fasted solution is to just implement a level 1 recipe for a pair of Templar's Vambraces or make them a level 44 gear piece that also drops from Dzemael Darkshold, similar to the rest of the Templar's set. It can also drop from any of the suggestions mentioned in the Templar's Kite Shield section as well.

Conclusion

I think that's enough for suggestions and requests from me for awhile. I've just been wishing for this one for years. Since 2013 when ARR launched, to be more precise. No rush, but a word from the devs on this possibly happen would make my dream come true.

http://i.imgur.com/wksFhC6.jpg

I don't mind waiting however long it takes, as long as I know someone out there is going to make it happen one day, I can be patient and wait when there's slow days at work for the XIV team.

http://i.imgur.com/85IBEiK.jpg

Thanks for anyone who made it through my entire post and have a good day!

http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...gard_Crest.jpg

"Of the Sky. From the Sky. For the Sky."

You are not asking for the impossible. I will support your suggestion with all the fury. I hope it gets the correspondinh attention, good luck!

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Originally Posted by Lilseph

You are not asking for the impossible. I will support your suggestion with all the fury. I hope it gets the correspondinh attention, good luck!

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Thanks, Lilseph! I'm hoping for the best! :)

Give this man some vambraces!

Very well written report. You can go ahead and speak for me, too. There are many sets in the game that are no longer completable due to dated items or the current dye system and it annoys me greatly to be blocked from completing a set by a single missing item. Personally I think the best solution would be, as you say, a better dye system. One where you can just apply a primary dye and then a trim dye, for example. I know this thread is relatively old, but I think it's important to keep it alive!

On a related note, since it's been almost 2 years, have you found any decent alternatives to the Blue Cobalt Vambraces?

When a request is made with such thoughtfulness and integrity, it's hard to counter.
I'm away from home for abut but I thought for sure these gloves still existed. Perhaps I am mistaken? You seem much more well read on the situation.
Take my like in hopes you get your vambraces.

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Originally Posted by Canadane

When a request is made with such thoughtfulness and integrity, it's hard to counter.
I'm away from home for abut but I thought for sure these gloves still existed. Perhaps I am mistaken? You seem much more well read on the situation.
Take my like in hopes you get your vambraces.

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They exist, just not available to us anymore. If you dye the current Cobalt Vambraces blue it doesn't turn out right. The armored part stays gray...

I wish i kept more of my dated gear, had i known there was going to be glamour options.
i have my Lv1 starter stuff (which is pointless) and a Lv20 leather armor, and Lv25 chainmail.
both of which are terrible colors for glamouring lol.
Here's to them implementing the graphic they already have in the game, obtainable by normal means.

I'm glad I held onto my old dated 1.0 gear and did not foolishly dispose of it when ARR started (I still remember all the threads on the Beta forum from 1.0 players gleefully mentioning how 'useless' the old dated gear was and that it wasn't worth holding onto). I feel vindicated now. ;) (Especially my Dated Brass Dagger, which was one of the few knives/daggers that GLA/PLD retained when ROG/NIN was added. ;)).

Either way, it would be nice to get the old dated gear again but I don't see SE doing this, simply because it's 1.0 gear. More and more Yoshi seems to be erasing or gradually moving away from 1.0's legacies and dated gear was one of them (look at the game's logo, it doesn't even have 'A Realm Reborn' anymore but retains ARR's colouring in leu of the original 1.0 logo's colouring and style).

As for Ishgardian glamour, we still haven't got that special House Fortemps Knight haubergeon we wore during the Grand Melee in Heavensward's storyline (which ages ago Yoshi said he would look into adding as actual gear due to so many requests for it), so maybe a full Temple Knight's armour set might be a better alternative? :)

We need more Ishgard glam of both sorts: Militaristic and Civilian. These should certainly be on the list.

Enkidoh, it certainly was a good idea to keep them. A lot of sets are missing only one item and it usually just comes down to a dye problem. I don't see them adding back 1.0 items either, but so much of this could be fixed with a better dye system. Even the Fortemps haubergeon, if you only had more control in the dye system you could make your own.

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Originally Posted by Zsolen

We need more Ishgard glam of both sorts: Militaristic and Civilian. These should certainly be on the list.

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We have the Alpine Jacket, but still no Alpine Dress D:

I too tried doing a Temple Knight glamour but without that shield or vambraces, it just doesn't feel complete, have a +1 from me.

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Originally Posted by Vulf

Enkidoh, it certainly was a good idea to keep them. A lot of sets are missing only one item and it usually just comes down to a dye problem. I don't see them adding back 1.0 items either, but so much of this could be fixed with a better dye system. Even the Fortemps haubergeon, if you only had more control in the dye system you could make your own.

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Maybe a new feature for high level crafts would be to include a dye as part as the craft materials and even make them elemental again, and we have ourselves the options of making the dated stuff.
These items weren't like the White Ravens, these were just regular items nobody thought anything of.
Since they're still in the game, it may actually be easier than adding new pieces of gear, and for the majority of players, these are all new stuff! Win-win, no?

I only had a few dated accessories, somehow I never had any body pieces leftover coming in to 2.0.

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Originally Posted by Canadane

Maybe a new feature for high level crafts would be to include a dye as part as the craft materials and even make them elemental again, and we have ourselves the options of making the dated stuff.
These items weren't like the White Ravens, these were just regular items nobody thought anything of.
Since they're still in the game, it may actually be easier than adding new pieces of gear, and for the majority of players, these are all new stuff! Win-win, no?

I only had a few dated accessories, somehow I never had any body pieces leftover coming in to 2.0.

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At this point I agree that some changes to the dye system like that would be the best way to go. Changes to the dye system wouldn't be a bad thing in general.

It wouldn't even be a problem if they stopped using dated items for NPC outfits D:<

I could see them giving us the shield if they ever do an Ishgard-based GC! Otherwise we'd be unqualified to wear the colors of the Temple Knights (or any of the high houses...Fortemps, please!!!!)

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Originally Posted by Canadane

Maybe a new feature for high level crafts would be to include a dye as part as the craft materials and even make them elemental again, and we have ourselves the options of making the dated stuff.
These items weren't like the White Ravens, these were just regular items nobody thought anything of.
Since they're still in the game, it may actually be easier than adding new pieces of gear, and for the majority of players, these are all new stuff! Win-win, no?

I only had a few dated accessories, somehow I never had any body pieces leftover coming in to 2.0.

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I wouldn’t be against the ability to craft “replica dated X”—I really do like the canvas tabard that Tataru wears (pink and all), but the ARR version has the chainmail under it and the breast-guard, and I’m not a fan of either. I like the simplicity of the original tabard.

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Originally Posted by Vulf

We have the Alpine Jacket, but still no Alpine Dress D:

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I would like to believe we would have that as well. Ishgard housing. Ishgard furniture. Dare I suggest an Ishgard GC as a part of its new formation?

Having some people with Ishgard GC being seen by green leafs is no weirder than green leafs teleporting to their FC's Kugane house.

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Originally Posted by Zsolen

I would like to believe we would have that as well. Ishgard housing. Ishgard furniture. Dare I suggest an Ishgard GC as a part of its new formation?

Having some people with Ishgard GC being seen by green leafs is no weirder than green leafs teleporting to their FC's Kugane house.

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That ship has clearly sailed. There is no reason lore wise for Ishgard to gain a GC, because the whole reason the GCs were established in the first place was to cover manpower shortages in the three main cities and consolidate their resources in the lead-up to the Calamity, because the three cities did not actually have full-time standing armies (they only had token militia forces, hence the whole point of the 'adventurer system' in the first place), in order to mount a suitable defence against Nael van Darnus and the VIIth Legion's imminent invasion.

Ishgard on the other hand, never established a GC because they remained independent of the Eorzean Alliance and did not participate with the other cities in the Battle of Carteneau. Moreever, they had no need to establish a GC, as they already maintained a full-time standing army that was continuosly mobilized because it was fighting the Dragonsong War - it even has it's own volunteer force in the form of the Convictors, a rowdy and undisciplined bunch to be sure.

Besides, Ishgard's story is pretty much completed now, the narrative's focus is now on Gyr Abania and the Far East and onwards towards Islabard and the Garlean capital, so with Ishgard's day in the sun passing, SE probably won't be adding much else gameplay wise to it I'm afraid.

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

I wouldn’t be against the ability to craft “replica dated X”—I really do like the canvas tabard that Tataru wears (pink and all), but the ARR version has the chainmail under it and the breast-guard, and I’m not a fan of either. I like the simplicity of the original tabard.

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Unlike the white ravens, hoarding dated items isn’t an accomplishment worth preserving with replicas. Adding recipes for the original dated items would be fine.

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

That ship has clearly sailed. There is no reason lore wise for Ishgard to gain a GC, because the whole reason the GCs were established in the first place was to cover manpower shortages in the three main cities and consolidate their resources in the lead-up to the Calamity, because the three cities did not actually have full-time standing armies (they only had token militia forces, hence the whole point of the 'adventurer system' in the first place), in order to mount a suitable defence against Nael van Darnus and the VIIth Legion's imminent invasion.

Ishgard on the other hand, never established a GC because they remained independent of the Eorzean Alliance and did not participate with the other cities in the Battle of Carteneau. Moreever, they had no need to establish a GC, as they already maintained a full-time standing army that was continuosly mobilized because it was fighting the Dragonsong War - it even has it's own volunteer force in the form of the Convictors, a rowdy and undisciplined bunch to be sure.

Besides, Ishgard's story is pretty much completed now, the narrative's focus is now on Gyr Abania and the Far East and onwards towards Islabard and the Garlean capital, so with Ishgard's day in the sun passing, SE probably won't be adding much else gameplay wise to it I'm afraid.

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In completely changing the form of government, there is good reason the military could go through a complete reform. It is going to take time for Ishgard to reform, not just the HW expansion.

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Originally Posted by Emstidor

Unlike the white ravens, hoarding dated items isn’t an accomplishment worth preserving with replicas. Adding recipes for the original dated items would be fine.

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I know; I only included “replica” because you would be surprised at how some would be upset they were original, regardless of how little accomplishment they took to get in the first place. :p

I mean I was strongly pushing for Replica in the White Ravens
This isn't something is even compare.

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Originally Posted by Canadane

I mean I was strongly pushing for Replica in the White Ravens
This isn't something is even compare.

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I never said it was?

I didn't say you said it was, I'm just agreeing with Emstidor there.

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

Besides, Ishgard's story is pretty much completed now, the narrative's focus is now on Gyr Abania and the Far East and onwards towards Islabard and the Garlean capital, so with Ishgard's day in the sun passing, SE probably won't be adding much else gameplay wise to it I'm afraid.

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I've said before, I feel like there are characters there whose story arc hasn't finished yet - particularly Emmanellain, and also Francel (even if he hasn't been directly in the plot since ARR, unless you go out of your way to visit him). I feel like they could be in place to get expanded later - although it's also possible that it might be just for side content, like the 60-70 MCH quest picking up Hilda's storyline. Or a Xelphatol hard mode unlock quest someday?

And there are still some job quests set primarily in Ishgard, not that it would really count for relevance in the same way that MSQ involvement does.

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Originally Posted by Zsolen

I would like to believe we would have that as well. Ishgard housing. Ishgard furniture. Dare I suggest an Ishgard GC as a part of its new formation?

Having some people with Ishgard GC being seen by green leafs is no weirder than green leafs teleporting to their FC's Kugane house.

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I agree completely. I think right now would be the best possible time for a lot of changes. Ishgard's immediate troubles have finally ended, the Government has completely changed, they've become a member of the Eorzean alliance and rebuilding is underway. I can't think of a more logical time (Lore-wise) for an Ishgard Grand Company to help them better coordinate with the other Eorzean nations, as well as allowing you to own land in Ishgard. At this point, I'd even be happy with just a private room within Fortemps Manor, even if you can't decorate it yourself. Especially since when you go there now you're welcomed "Home". That's how starved for Ishgard content I am.

There is so much furniture in the game that isn't available to us yet! Have you seen that Riviera Fireplace in Wineport? I need that in my house.

I want Haukke Manor's torture rack in my basement!

Seriously though, while we're on the topic of requesting things, bring back old Feast Rewards.

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Originally Posted by Vulf

At this point, I'd even be happy with just a private room within Fortemps Manor, even if you can't decorate it yourself. Especially since when you go there now you're welcomed "Home". That's how starved for Ishgard content I am.

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Greetings, fellow starved-for-Ishgard-content person...

I don't know why we didn't have a room at the manor right from the start. I get the impression from the story that we are supposed to be staying there, and one of the side stories (set post-Dragonsong) actually has Alphinaud in "his room" there.

(Also surely it would be a scandal that House Fortemps isn't even properly hosting their own guests, and leaving them to find their own lodgings at a dingy inn - down in the Brume of all places!)



So, if they were going to add it to the game now, maybe we can borrow Emmanellain's room while he's away? Would even give an excuse for not being able to customise it...

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Greetings, fellow starved-for-Ishgard-content person...

I don't know why we didn't have a room at the manor right from the start. I get the impression from the story that we are supposed to be staying there, and one of the side stories (set post-Dragonsong) actually has Alphinaud in "his room" there.

(Also surely it would be a scandal that House Fortemps isn't even properly hosting their own guests, and leaving them to find their own lodgings at a dingy inn - down in the Brume of all places!)



So, if they were going to add it to the game now, maybe we can borrow Emmanellain's room while he's away? Would even give an excuse for not being able to customise it...

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Greetings to you too, Iscah.

Yeah the manor seems... I don't even know. Lazy? I don't want to say it but that's how it feels. That's where we were staying, and even more so now that Artoirel has taken over. There's a guard in front of the manor and one of the servants inside who both "Welcome you home", yet you're always restricted to the guest area. I'm sorry, but if they really don't plan to add Ishgard housing in the forseeable future, the least they could do is give us an instanced room to fill that desire many of us have (It seems like they get asked about Ishgard housing at almost every interview, clearly people want it).

The more I think about it, the more I realize that with our current housing system, we would never really be able to accurately reproduce an Ishgard house on our own, even with a house in Coerthas. Our interior options are just too different. I think what I'm trying to say here is that a private player room in Fortemps Manor would be far more "Ishgard" than anything we'd be able to make ourselves. I would almost prefer a developer-made Ishgard bedroom over trying to cobble one together myself (That being said I am, of course, desperate for Ishgard Player Housing too).

I support this. Trying to fashion my adventurer squadron after Ishgard soldiers right now.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Greetings, fellow starved-for-Ishgard-content person...

I don't know why we didn't have a room at the manor right from the start. I get the impression from the story that we are supposed to be staying there, and one of the side stories (set post-Dragonsong) actually has Alphinaud in "his room" there.

(Also surely it would be a scandal that House Fortemps isn't even properly hosting their own guests, and leaving them to find their own lodgings at a dingy inn - down in the Brume of all places!)



So, if they were going to add it to the game now, maybe we can borrow Emmanellain's room while he's away? Would even give an excuse for not being able to customise it...

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Actually Alphinaud at least, and thus presumedly the player's character and Tataru too, really did have his own room at Fortemps Manor - one of the stories from Tales From the Dragonsong War on the Lodestone actually depicted Alphinaud writing in this room (and stated outright it was his lodgings there), so by extension the WoL and Tataru would have also been granted their own quarters in the manor too story-wise:

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Originally Posted by FFXIV Lodestone sidestory 'Tales From the Dragonsong War ~ Words, Deeds, Beliefs'

Alphinaud chuckled as he remembered Estinien's ennui.

In the days since the dragoon vanished from his sickroom, he had found himself with an overabundance of leisure. Catching himself mindlessly tracing the patterns on the ceiling of his room at Fortemps Manor, he closed his eyes and let out a sigh. Another sleepless night.

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However, the game all but ignored that for the sake of gameplay flow (and probably technical reasons - why even bother then making the Inn at the Forgotten Knight available for players gameplay wise to use if they're instead given their own cushy quarters in the Pillars?), so alas all we got to see inside Fortemps Manor was the main hall and nothing else (unless that scene of Derplander hanging up his Bravura in a room somewhere in the Pillars and looking out the window in HW's CG opening movie was meant to be in Fortemps Manor too), with the game handwaving aside the question of whether the player ever actually stayed there in their 'off' hours.

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

Actually Alphinaud at least, and thus presumedly the player's character and Tataru too, really did have his own room at Fortemps Manor - one of the stories from Tales From the Dragonsong War on the Lodestone actually depicted Alphinaud writing in this room (and stated outright it was his lodgings there), so by extension the WoL and Tataru would have also been granted their own quarters in the manor too story-wise:

However, the game all but ignored that for the sake of gameplay flow (and probably technical reasons - why even bother then making the Inn at the Forgotten Knight available for players gameplay wise to use if they're instead given their own cushy quarters in the Pillars?), so alas all we got to see inside Fortemps Manor was the main hall and nothing else (unless that scene of Derplander hanging up his Bravura in a room somewhere in the Pillars and looking out the window in HW's CG opening movie was meant to be in Fortemps Manor too), with the game handwaving aside the question of whether the player ever actually stayed there in their 'off' hours.

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That's what I meant though - everything in the story points to us staying at the manor, so it seems like it should have been easy enough to put the "inn room" (ie. an instanced bedroom accessed from town) not actually at an inn, but at the manor. It should be the same function - talk to the guard, get taken to your room - and only the description of it is different.

I'd love to have these gloves too ._.

I'm resurrecting this thread because 6 years later, and such a simple thing hasn't been added yet.

Please add these gloves, and shield to the game!