Editable FC capes

As everyone knows you can now add your FC symbol on your armor through the free company.
I recommend adding a cape (wich you can choose to hide like the helmet) that shows the FC symbol in a bigger fashion, a cape wich you can dye (except for the FC symbol).

We don't ever need a cape slot.

This game is blessed with capes being an uncommon part of the equipment we wear, and that's what makes the ones we do get special.

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Originally Posted by SXTC

As everyone knows you can now add your FC symbol on your armor through the free company.
I recommend adding a cape (wich you can choose to hide like the helmet) that shows the FC symbol in a bigger fashion, a cape wich you can dye (except for the FC symbol).

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They already so no to cape slots. PS4 limitations

Jokes aside, they said it's actually a server issue with memory or somesuch. No capes or extra equipment slots in the forseeable future.

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Originally Posted by Daranion

They already so no to cape slots. PS4 limitations

Jokes aside, they said it's actually a server issue with memory or somesuch. No capes or extra equipment slots in the forseeable future.

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They don't need an excuse or a reason not to implement a bad idea.

You say bad idea, but the Griffins cape on his armor set is fly as fuck. I want to represent MUH ALA MHIGO with sick capes like him. Or "mantles" if you prefer that term. But no to a cape slot. I do like the capes on armor, but yeah make them feel special

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Originally Posted by Daranion

You say bad idea, but the Griffins cape on his armor set is fly as fuck. I want to represent MUH ALA MHIGO with sick capes like him. Or "mantles" if you prefer that term. But no to a cape slot. I do like the capes on armor, but yeah make them feel special

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Exactly. The ones we have now are designed to go with what they're a part of, rather than something scotch taped to the shoulders of whatever chestpiece we're wearing. The current way is the best way.

If you don't like a cape then don't wear one. But I don't think its fair to exclude it just because some people dislike it... gotto think about EVERYONE, not just yourselves.

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Originally Posted by SXTC

If you don't like a cape then don't wear one. But I don't think its fair to exclude it just because some people dislike it... gotto think about EVERYONE, not just yourselves.

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If you like a cape, then wear one of the ones attached to various outfits right now. They're not going to add a cape slot, especially not when you haven't thought through how many incompatibilities that would create with an overwhelming majority of chestpiece slot gear currently in the game.

It's more than "fair to exclude it" because it's not something currently in the game and doesn't ever need to be. Just because you had the idea doesn't mean it automatically deserves a place in the game.

Oh, I thought this said edible , guess I need to go to lunch :)

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Originally Posted by Friggan

Oh, I thought this said edible , guess I need to go to lunch :)

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To be honest, I read it that way as well when it was posted.

Having cape could be nice - we already have bunch of them attached to chest-pieces in-game already, but sadly I don't really like any of the options currently available. I might see chest-piece with cape attached one day that looks nice for my taste, or I might never see one added.

I read "Edible FC Capes". ._.













I'm hungry.

I really, really like the mantle on the Shire tank set, but there's always that one thing about the armor sets that irks me. In the case of the Shire tank set it's the faulds (plates that hang over the thighs). They jut out outward rather than lay against the thighs.

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Originally Posted by SXTC

As everyone knows you can now add your FC symbol on your armor through the free company.
I recommend adding a cape (wich you can choose to hide like the helmet) that shows the FC symbol in a bigger fashion, a cape wich you can dye (except for the FC symbol).

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If you are a tank or Dragoon, the Berserker and Viking sets sound like what you are looking for. A bonus is the FC crest goes right on the cape already.

They should figure out a way to make capes not clip through tails before bothering with more capes.

I'm not saying they should, I'm only saying I don't appreciate people calling my idea bad just because they dissagree, because some of you make it sound like the world resolves around what you want, not what everyone "might" want.
I'm not here making demands, just sharing suggestions because I thought we could discuss such topics peacefully. Most of you prove that its possible, some prove that its not.

If done well I like the option for capes especially if we can emblazon them or they are fanciful with intricate designs. Not just (insert color here) plain cloaks.

ehh... its not a superhero game. capes are cool, but I do think they should be attached to cape-appropriate chest pieces, meaning you shouldn't be able to wear a cape with everything.

If enough people wnat a feature like that, then I don't see why not. I wouldn't utilize it though.

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Originally Posted by RaijinSupreme

ehh... its not a superhero game. capes are cool, but I do think they should be attached to cape-appropriate chest pieces, meaning you shouldn't be able to wear a cape with everything.

If enough people wnat a feature like that, then I don't see why not. I wouldn't utilize it though.

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I think cloaks are probably the best choice should something like this make it into the game.

What if there's a slot that allows you to add a cloak, scarf, etc... without benefits just for the sakes of Glamour?
No one would feel forced to use them, unless it happens to look cool on your current armor set/clothing.

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Originally Posted by GMERC

a bad idea.

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You're literally objectively wrong.

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Maybe once we have decent cloth physics. Until then I'd prefer to avoid capes of any sort.

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Yeah, no thanks.

Clipping + Clothing Pyshics. This would be a disaster.

Plus capes are in general gaudy / hideous.

You want capes? Glam on the gear that already has them.

You want your FC Emblem? Put it on your gear then.

We need capes. They're essential to fantasy styled games, especially for knightly leaders.

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Originally Posted by Friggan

Oh, I thought this said edible , guess I need to go to lunch :)

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Your not alone se implant edible capes lmao long day in pvp need a snack eat your cape

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Originally Posted by SXTC

What if there's a slot that allows you to add a cloak, scarf, etc... without benefits just for the sakes of Glamour?
No one would feel forced to use them, unless it happens to look cool on your current armor set/clothing.

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While I don't think this game could do capes very well (i mean they've tried and failed for a couple character armors already), I'd LOVE a guild scarf/half-cape. ♥o♥

That is exactly my point. Why take away that possibility just because some do not agree? Isn't it discrimination not to keep what everyone wants into account at the same time? Why say its bad because you don't agree, knowing that there are others that DO agree with this idea. I believe adding a slot for capes, scarf, bowtie or tie.. would improve how one could customise their appearance wich is great for glamour, especialy if you can dye it.
How can some of you be "against" this? Do you dislike people looking hot and cool?

You are getting a little bit touchy here OP . These forums are where people come to share their opinions. If you post yours be prepared to accept that others will not feel the same and many that are against capes/scarves have very good points as to why we don't have them and why they should not be implemented yet.

From a realistic standpoint, I don't see them adding this. The reason we don't have more capes on the armor now, is because of clipping. Think about how much work effectively adding a cape slot would require:

1. They would have to go through every single upper armor in the game and edit in where the cape attaches or sits to that upper armor piece, to avoid clipping. They can't just use one default spot because the cape would look different depending on if the player was wearing a massive suit of armor or a thin robe.
2. Once they set the location for the cape on that specific piece of upper armor, they have to then switch to the versions of that armor used by other races, and scale/adjust the attaching point. This is because one piece of armor will look very different on a Lalafel (shoulders close to the neck) vs on a Roegadyn (with the broad shoulders) so they would have to make sure that the attach point is altered and the cape spreads out on the top. This would have to be done for all five races' version of that upper armor.
3. Then they would still have to double check that none of the hairstyles clip through the cape, with how its set for that current piece of armor. If any of the hairstyles do, then they would have to adjust the cape, and then verify that that hairstyle no longer clips through on each of the 5 races.
4. Once all of that is done, they would have to decide how to adjust the cape for tails. Once decided they would have to go in and edit the cape for all mi'qote armor and all au ra armor seperately to make sure the tails no longer clip through.

And all of that, all that right there that I listed, that's one, ONE single piece of upper armor. After that, they get to move on to another upper armor, and make sure all the clipping is fine. Yes they can set defaults like have all robes have one default position, per race.. but then they would still have to double check that it doesnt clip through horribly on EVERY OTHER ROBE. Because what looks fine on one robe, could be coming out of the hood of another, or clipping through some snazzy shoulder decoration. So regardless, they would still have to double check every single upper armor in the game, for each race seperately.

Or they could put all that dev time to something new that impacts everyone, not just a handful of players who want capes.

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Originally Posted by SXTC

That is exactly my point. Why take away that possibility just because some do not agree? Isn't it discrimination not to keep what everyone wants into account at the same time? Why say its bad because you don't agree, knowing that there are others that DO agree with this idea. I believe adding a slot for capes, scarf, bowtie or tie.. would improve how one could customise their appearance wich is great for glamour, especialy if you can dye it.
How can some of you be "against" this? Do you dislike people looking hot and cool?

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Its simply their opinion. No one is taking the idea away from you, they are just saying they don't agree with it. If you want a place where everyone is going to agree with everything anyone says ever... well I don't know where that place is, but its not here.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

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Its not a cape thread without this annoying meme.

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Originally Posted by RaijinSupreme

Its simply their opinion. No one is taking the idea away from you, they are just saying they don't agree with it. If you want a place where everyone is going to agree with everything anyone says ever... well I don't know where that place is, but its not here.

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1) At no point did I state anyone took my idea from me.
2) I was saying everyone should respect everyone's opinion, even mine. So how does that make me someone that doesn't allow an alternate opinion? Because I'm pretty sure I spoke of "not" discriminating anyone.
So there's realy no need for you to portray me as a dictator.


What I DO notice however is that some members on this forum are quick to barge into gamechange idea's just to solidly yell no from the start...
If I didn't know better I'd think you were actualy paid to persuade people they should feel good with what they have right now and keep their expectations down :)
Not saying I believe thats the case... but what I am saying is that you should listen and either agree or dissagree. If you dissagree, there are peacefull ways of sharing your opinion.

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2) I was saying everyone should respect everyone's opinion, even mine.

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I find it amusing the second someone disagrees with anyone on the forums, they think we don't respect their opinion. This isn't the case. We just don't agree with your opinion. You're welcome to have it and were welcome not to.

Posting relevent memes doesn't mean we don't respect your opinion. :o

This is an open forum, if you dont want people to disagree with you then you shouldn't be posting here.

The whole cape thing has been brought up multiple times before and the devs themselves have said "no" because of a couple of reasons.

1) They don't want to expand character data packet size, which is why they currently have no plans to expand certain elements of character customization including adding new gear slots such as capes/back items. Increasing the packet size has potential performance repercussions since that data packet is transferred between the game client on your computer and the game server fairly regularly. This could potentially slow down client-server communication as well as increase bandwidth usage which would be bad for those that are in countries or areas with metered internet service.

2) Capes don't work so well for the game's animation system, which relies almost exclusively on skeletal rigs and doesn't really use real-time cloth physics calculations. Simple skeletal rigs systems are limited as to how they can manipulate something like a cape, or long dresses as you can see in the game right now, since they have to attach rig points on the gear item to rig points in the player skeleton to get the item to move with the character. This results in a lot of clipping which looks terrible. This can be alleviated somewhat by designing gear with a cape built in, which is the route they decided to go instead of separate capes which would likely clip through most gear that wasn't designed with the cape in mind.

Capes as a general idea is not inherently bad, regardless of personal aesthetic opinions, but it has been broached before and legitimate technical reasons have been given as to why it is a no go.

However, asking for more glamour gear options with different types of capes built in is fine. Also, making it so FC emblems display on said capes makes sense.

Also, as others have pointed out, capes mixed with characters with tails suck.

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Originally Posted by TouchandFeel

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I like you. Being able to see both sides of an argument is a rare trait. You will go far in life.

I very much like your answer, its professional and unsided.
But Yes I see where you are comming from... therefor This topic can be locked and I will create an Altered version of this topic.