Skipping MSQ

Seeing a lot of threads about level jumping potions and one of the excuses thrown about a lot is new players. Thought I'd offer an alternative, buying the game and expansion(s) would automatically unlock the following:

Character select - create new character - select to start at 'A Realm Reborn' lv.1, 'Heavensward' lv.50 and eventually 'Stormblood' lv.60.

Problem solved right?

Edit: Treating 'A realm reborn/Heavensward/Stormblood' as a trilogy and letting weird people start with the 3rd one if for some reason they want to isn't something I particularly want, but considering the push for it (oh please won't someone think of the newbies!) it's by far the better option.

I think it could even be quite good if they include a 'new game+' option as well. I'd actually quite like to go back through the story on my character, if I'd started with 4.0 and never done it before it'd be great doing it the first time and getting xp for a 2nd or 3rd class at the same time. New guy hears about FFXIV from his friends, dives straight into the latest expansion with them, and then can unlock 2.0 and 3.0 from the Wandering Minstrel and play them to level alt classes. New guy is happy, the old MSQ stuff is still useful, cash shop is kept in check.

What, exactly, is the difference? Except now Square isn't profiting off people who skip. In fact, your scenario actually would allow bots/RMT directly into Heavensward and Stormblood for free. Part of the reason a cost exists is to deter those who might abuse it.

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

What, exactly, is the difference?

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It doesn't cost us extra.

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

Except now Square isn't profiting off people who skip.

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Do you get commission from cash shop purchases or something?

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

In fact, your scenario actually would allow bots/RMT directly into Heavensward and Stormblood for free. Part of the reason a cost exists is to deter those who might abuse it.

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Not our job to stop botters, I'm prepared to help out with the report button (I barely see any bots at all these days) but the 'pay extra so we can do things that should be considered standard' excuse is starting to wear thin.

And it wouldn't be free for bots/RMT, they would still have to purchase the expansion.

What I'd like to see as part of a solution here is that the MSQ up to Stormblood guarantees one level 60 DoW/DoM.
People will still have to do the MSQ to get access to the content which is locked behind it, but won't have to spend hours grinding of exp to be able to progress to that point.
One of the things I am not sure about however is how to handle the mandatory group content in the MSQ, specifically the earlier content which is hardly done by groups anymore.

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Originally Posted by Shirai

What I'd like to see as part of a solution here is that the MSQ up to Stormblood guarantees one level 60 DoW/DoM.
People will still have to do the MSQ to get access to the content which is locked behind it, but won't have to spend hours grinding of exp to be able to progress to that point.

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That's my preferred route as well, but I just wanted to see if there was any appetite for a what seems to be to me, obvious compromise.

Well yeah thats possible.


They could also rename your character for free or transfer it, but why dont charge for it as a service? I means you know how the free market works right, when somebody is willing to pay for it, why dont sell it?

The reason for a price on something like a Jump Potion is to make it financially unviable for Gold Farmers and Botters to use it to access high level areas.

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Originally Posted by Jandor

It doesn't cost us extra.

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It should. You want to skip content others had to level through. The trade off to that is having to pay extra.

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Do you get commission from cash shop purchases or something?

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More money for Square Enix translates into more content for FFXIV or other titles they produce I happen to like.

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Not our job to stop botters, I'm prepared to help out with the report button (I barely see any bots at all these days) but the 'pay extra so we can do things that should be considered standard' excuse is starting to wear thin.

And it wouldn't be free for bots/RMT, they would still have to purchase the expansion.

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Right. And SE does that jump by not allowing people a free skip for essentially every job. At what point was skipping to 60 ever considered standard?

And turning this into a flag upon creating a character would make it accessible for every new character made.

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More money for Square Enix translates into more content for FFXIV or other titles they produce I happen to like.

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Best joke of the year.

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Originally Posted by Jandor

Not our job to stop botters, I'm prepared to help out with the report button (I barely see any bots at all these days) but the 'pay extra so we can do things that should be considered standard' excuse is starting to wear thin.

And it wouldn't be free for bots/RMT, they would still have to purchase the expansion.

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It's not our job, which is why SE would charge a premium for the potion, as a limiting factor for RMT bots. Also, as a business, paying £20 for ARR, £15 for HW and £30 for the potion, is more than paying £20 and £15, which means more profits.

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Originally Posted by Stanelis

Best joke of the year.

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I'm sure the EU servers being moved to an actual place in EU and the new inventory increase are HILARIOUS jokes. :rolleyes:

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I'm sure the EU servers being moved to an actual place in EU and the new inventory increase are HILARIOUS jokes.

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EU servers should have been in europe from the start (people were leaving over the lags) and we know nothing about the upcoming inventory increase (plus they are already charging you an extra fee for extra inventory space).

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Originally Posted by Stanelis

Best joke of the year.

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So Square just arbitrarily decided to triple Stormblood's budget for giggles? If they aren't making money, they wouldn't do that.

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

So Square just arbitrarily decided to triple Stormblood's budget for giggles? If they aren't making money, they wouldn't do that.

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Maybe that's because SE noticed a lot of people were bailing out FFXIV due to the low quality of the expansion's content ?

If you want people to play your game the game must be up to the standards of the industry. No offense but aside the primal battles, FFXIV has been laking since HW.

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Originally Posted by Stanelis

EU servers should have been in europe from the start (people were leaving over the lags) and we know nothing about the upcoming inventory increase (plus they are already charging you an extra fee for extra inventory space).

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EU servers weren't in Europe because SE did not acquire or install any EU servers, and used what they had, business tactics and all that wonderful stuff you clearly don't know about. And how are they charging me an extra fee for the inventory increase? They are charging a fee for people who opt into having extra retainers. Regarding the inventory increase, we know that we are getting an expanded inventory as well as an expanded armoury chest, and that it is a result of all the cash shop money they have been getting. Same situation happened with the EU servers, on top of that, as Bourne_Endeavor has mentioned, 3x the budget for Stormblood too. SE makes some really good jokes.

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EU servers weren't in Europe because SE did not acquire or install any EU servers, and used what they had, business tactics and all that wonderful stuff you clearly don't know about.And how are they charging me an extra fee for the inventory increase? They are charging a fee for people who opt into having extra retainers. Regarding the inventory increase, we know that we are getting an expanded inventory as well as an expanded armoury chest, and that it is a result of all the cash shop money they have been getting. Same situation happened with the EU servers, on top of that, as Bourne_Endeavor has mentioned, 3x the budget for Stormblood too. SE makes some really good jokes.

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What you re aren't taking into consideration is that players were bailing out FFXIV due to all those issues. :) See my former post for more details. I know the white knighting is strong in those forums (because you can't post if you didn't log into the game for 15 days) but I can assure you FFXIV isn't doing that well in the west (maybe things are different in japan).

Also, please do not talk about business tactics when you re so gullible as to think increasing cash shop profits will increase FFXIV's budget.

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Originally Posted by Stanelis

What you re aren't taking into consideration is that players were bailing out FFXIV due to all those issues. :) See my former post for more details.

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I would like to know where you are getting these so called numbers of the active XIV population dropping as a result of the Heavensward content.

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Originally Posted by Stanelis

Also, please do not talk about business tactics when you re so gullible as to think increasing cash shop profits will increase FFXIV's budget.

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Well, proof is in the pudding. They've already told us Stormblood has 3x the budget as Heavensward. Do you want a photo of the interview? It'll last longer.

I'm not trying to white knight, I'm just trying to get into your head and find out how 3x budget, as well as cash shop obviously making profits is apparently a debilitating decision for the long run of XIV.

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I would like to know where you are getting these so called numbers of the active XIV population dropping as a result of the Heavensward content.

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Lots of metrics show that. As the activity on the forums, activity on reddit, google trends under the FFXIV tags, number of concurrent viewers on twitch.

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Well, proof is in the pudding. They've already told us Stormblood has 3x the budget as Heavensward. Do you want a photo of the interview? It'll last longer.

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It's not a proof as a) the potion hasn't been implemented b) as I said people were leaving FFXIV. I know they are increasing FFXIV's budget, but you have to understand the reason they do this is to make people stick to the game, and it isn't linked to the cash shop profits. The fact that they targeted their communication on the aspects which didn't please the players in HW during the NA fanfest (amongst them, lack of storage space) reinforces that point.

Also, let me remind you we used to have 3 dungeons per patch at some point, which dropped to 2 over the course of HW.

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

It should. You want to skip content others had to level through. The trade off to that is having to pay extra.

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I don't want to skip content, and I don't want anyone else skipping content either. However, the poor newbie who has to play through hundreds of story quests and misunderstood altaholic who doesn't want to play through it for the 3rd or 4th time are often brought up as reasons for a skip option.

If those concerns mentioned (especially the ones regarding new players) are valid, then charging for it shouldn't even be considered.
Not only does it go well beyond 'just cosmetic', it's literally progress for money, but the length and apparent tedium of 2.0 is so bad that it's driving away new players, if that's the case then it's imperative that skipping it be offered as an option to everyone. No one new is going to decide "2.0 sucks, best hand over another $30 to skip it, see if 3.0 sucks just as hard."

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Originally Posted by Stanelis

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Cop out answer, you'd need hard subscription numbers as well as potential income from said subscribers. If the profits of 2.0-2.5 are higher than 3.0-3.5 come June, then I'll be glad to accept that I am wrong, otherwise, I'm sure XIV is doing just fine. :)

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Originally Posted by Stanelis

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You can perceive the budget increasing as a means to getting more customers, but I know for a fact cash shop profits are being used to aid XIV, and you can laugh all you want about it, but in the end, if you're disinterested in XIV, why do you even come here?

We used to have 3 dungeons, yes. We also didn't have Aquapolis, Lord of Verminion (Bad at the start but they fixed it by putting it in the DF), the GS TT Battlehall, Chocobo Race challenges, SSS dummies, Diadem (it was actually popular when it was new), The Feast, etc. Let's just act as if nothing new was introduced to XIV through 3.0 to 3.5, shall we?

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Originally Posted by Stanelis

b) as I said people were leaving FFXIV. I know they are increasing FFXIV's budget, but you have to understand the reason they do this is to make people stick to the game, and it isn't linked to the cash shop profits.

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So if the budget increase isn't due to cash shop sales, where did the money come from? Did it come from their asses?

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Originally Posted by Jandor

Seeing a lot of threads about level jumping potions and one of the excuses thrown about a lot is new players. Thought I'd offer an alternative, buying the game and expansion(s) would automatically unlock the following:

Character select - create new character - select to start at 'A Realm Reborn' lv.1, 'Heavensward' lv.50 and eventually 'Stormblood' lv.60.

Problem solved right?

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Why would anyone start at level one if they had the immediate and free option of starting at 50/60? Why don't we just cut ARR, and eventually Heavensward, out completely? Removing all of those old zones would do a lot to help their profits, not to mention no longer needing to make things work between expansion zones.

Terrible idea, both level jump and yours. Your method just makes less sense.

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Originally Posted by Violyre

So if the budget increase isn't due to cash shop sales, where did the money come from? Did it come from their asses?

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Oh I don't know...maybe from basically SE's overall revenue from virtually every other game/merchandise they sell, which then gets re-allocated to whatever team needs it?

Just a wild guess o.O

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Originally Posted by Violyre

So if the budget increase isn't due to cash shop sales, where did the money come from? Did it come from their asses?

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Probably the millions and millions of dollars the game brings in from sales and subs. This is the game credited with saving SE as a company after all, saving it way before it had a cash shop as well.

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Originally Posted by Violyre

Why would anyone start at level one if they had the immediate and free option of starting at 50/60? Why don't we just cut ARR, and eventually Heavensward, out completely? Removing all of those old zones would do a lot to help their profits, not to mention no longer needing to make things work between expansion zones.

Terrible idea, both level jump and yours. Your method just makes less sense.

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No, the terrible idea is introducing tangible progress in exchange for money.

Treating 'A realm reborn/Heavensward/Stormblood' as a trilogy and letting weird people start with the 3rd one if for some reason they want to isn't something I particularly want, but considering the push for it (oh please won't someone think of the newbies!) it's by far the better option.

As for why anyone would play it, I've argued for a 'new game+' option before. I'd actually quite like to go back through the story on my character, if I'd started with 4.0 and never done it before it'd be great doing it the first time and getting xp for a 2nd or 3rd class at the same time.

E: In fact, typing this out has made me come around to the idea a bit more, new guy hears about FFXIV from his friends, dives straight into the latest expansion with them, and then can unlock 2.0 and 3.0 from the Wandering Minstrel and play them to level alt classes. New guy is happy, the old MSQ stuff is still useful, cash shop is kept in check, everyone's happy?

Still... this idea is dead in the water anyway. Topic basically opens up with "this shouldn't be in the cash shop" and the first reply is "but then how would SE make money from it?"

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Originally Posted by Violyre

So if the budget increase isn't due to cash shop sales, where did the money come from? Did it come from their asses?

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Basically yes, or the bank, or the subs, or the flat sales on the boxes. But the last financial report didn't point in the direction of increased investment in FFXIV despite increased incomes from online operations. The fact that profits increase doesn't mean the investment increases.

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We used to have 3 dungeons, yes. We also didn't have Aquapolis, Lord of Verminion (Bad at the start but they fixed it by putting it in the DF), the GS TT Battlehall, Chocobo Race challenges, SSS dummies, Diadem (it was actually popular when it was new), The Feast, etc. Let's just act as if nothing new was introduced to XIV through 3.0 to 3.5, shall we?

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That's typically what I was talking about when I mentioned content below the industry standards. Aside from PoTD (which is content based on FFXI design), every piece of content you mentioned has been abandoned very quickly by the player base due to very low quality standards.

Despite all the efforts the dev team did put in FFXIV's pvp, it's still a part of FFXIV which is being forsaken by the gaming community.

Also, I m glad you talked about chocobo races. Back in 2015 I had the opportunity to let a potential new player interested in FFXIV partake in a chocobo race. Do you know what he told me when I asked me if he wanted to do another race ? He replied "No, I had a good memory of FFVII's races, but this piece of content totally ruin them".

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Cop out answer, you'd need hard subscription numbers as well as potential income from said subscribers. If the profits of 2.0-2.5 are higher than 3.0-3.5 come June, then I'll be glad to accept that I am wrong, otherwise, I'm sure XIV is doing just fine.

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Please note I m talking about the number of players. Not the income from FFXIV.

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

It should. You want to skip content others had to level through. The trade off to that is having to pay extra.



More money for Square Enix translates into more content for FFXIV or other titles they produce I happen to like.

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I can't hear you over all the money that was put into FFXV.

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Originally Posted by SenorPatty

Oh I don't know...maybe from basically SE's overall revenue from virtually every other game/merchandise they sell, which then gets re-allocated to whatever team needs it?

Just a wild guess o.O

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So it come still from cash shop (because it is part of the overall income of SE)

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Originally Posted by Stanelis

I know the white knighting is strong in those forums (because you can't post if you didn't log into the game for 15 days) but I can assure you FFXIV isn't doing that well in the west (maybe things are different in japan).

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Cynical black knighting with little or no hard evidence to support your claims is hardly more admirable. :)

So, if you laugh at the thought that SE invests cash shop money back into the game, but admit that they ARE putting additional money into the game but don't know for sure where it came from... Just what makes you so sure none of that money comes from the cash shop?

More likely, I think, that the profits from ALL SE's sources - cash shop, other games, what have you - gets pooled, and then distributed where it is needed. Cash shop may not funnel directly back into the game, but by increasing SE's overall revenue you can bet that it helps, nonetheless.

Actually yes I WOULD like proof of this 3x the budget claim. I too fell for this story once, but noone has ever proven anything. The only budget related information I can find is "We're reinvesting money into the servers for the first time. This is a monumental event yadda yadda"

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Originally Posted by Felis

So it come still from cash shop (because it is part of the overall income of SE)

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True but Violyre's post implied that stormblood's budget came strictly from cash shop.

Which if it actually did, I'd be amazed. Like, meme-level amazed.

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Originally Posted by Jandor

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Why would any company seeking profit do this? The potions are obviously the better option in SE's eyes as it is additional cash on top of the people already having to pay for the game + expansions. No company is going to make this choice over the alternative they have already put in motion. Regardless of people's opinion on the matter SE is not going to choose to give away free what they've already decided they will charge for.

These potions are only going to positively effect their bottom line no matter how much pissing and moaning goes on here at the forums.

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Originally Posted by Jandor

Probably the millions and millions of dollars the game brings in from sales and subs. This is the game credited with saving SE as a company after all, saving it way before it had a cash shop as well.

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Subs are generally a static source of income. If you want new features or more resources spent on the game or overhauls like the EU servers or the server upgrades we are getting their expense needs to be justified to the investors. The Cash shop allows that. If we want more from SE, they will need more revenue to justify it. After all its not like not upgrading the servers or hiring new staff would negatively effect profits that much. All that Sub money you mention is already been taken into account. Unless FF14 sees a massive growth in subs it's unlikely you would see substantially more money being reinvested into the game otherwise.

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Originally Posted by Jandor

No, the terrible idea is introducing tangible progress in exchange for money.

Treating 'A realm reborn/Heavensward/Stormblood' as a trilogy and letting weird people start with the 3rd one if for some reason they want to isn't something I particularly want, but considering the push for it (oh please won't someone think of the newbies!) it's by far the better option.

As for why anyone would play it, I've argued for a 'new game+' option before. I'd actually quite like to go back through the story on my character, if I'd started with 4.0 and never done it before it'd be great doing it the first time and getting xp for a 2nd or 3rd class at the same time.

E: In fact, typing this out has made me come around to the idea a bit more, new guy hears about FFXIV from his friends, dives straight into the latest expansion with them, and then can unlock 2.0 and 3.0 from the Wandering Minstrel and play them to level alt classes. New guy is happy, the old MSQ stuff is still useful, cash shop is kept in check, everyone's happy?

Still... this idea is dead in the water anyway. Topic basically opens up with "this shouldn't be in the cash shop" and the first reply is "but then how would SE make money from it?"

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The problem with a new game+ system they already said is due to how the Quest system is structured. Even things like Airships wouldn't be accessable till you re-unlocked them. You would loose all your progress. That is a system issue and unless they overhaul that system it is likely problematic to do.

As for why they wouldn't offer this for free, it's simple. It's to limit access for RMT and botters to later points in the game.

I would also ask, how does someone else skipping that game experience negatively impact you? Did you find playing that content a bad thing? I can find the only real issue is their potential performance endgame and that can be mitigated with Tutorial systems. Otherwise there isn't much logic to your argument.

Its like you go out for dinner with people and someone arrives after the main course and before dessert and you insist that they cant have any of the dessert unless they eat the main course too because everyone else had to. How is that you loosing out? Was eating the main course that unpleasant? Isn't it there loss for missing most of the meal?

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Originally Posted by Belhi

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Or you could compare it to climbing a mountain. On the one hand, you have the climbers that put in all the effort, blood sweat, tears and time to reach the top...and then you have others who found an elevator and were just taken to the top. Wouldn't that make your own efforts feel diminished and worthless?

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Originally Posted by Spy

Or you could compare it to climbing a mountain. On the one hand, you have the climbers that put in all the effort, blood sweat, tears and time to reach the top...and then you have others who found an elevator and were just taken to the top. Wouldn't that make your own efforts feel diminished and worthless?

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Depends. Am I sweating blood, sweat and tears for my own satisfaction or am I seeking validation from others?

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Originally Posted by Spy

Or you could compare it to climbing a mountain. On the one hand, you have the climbers that put in all the effort, blood sweat, tears and time to reach the top...and then you have others who found an elevator and were just taken to the top. Wouldn't that make your own efforts feel diminished and worthless?

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Nope. Because I don't base the value of my accomplishments on others. It's like my current goal of eventually reaching a good enough percentile I'm happy with on FFlogs. It won't bother me in the slightest that The Creator will inevitably become a complete pushover because I'll have reached my personally goal. Regardless, it's a false equivalent. Climbing a mountain requires both effort and skill. Completing the MSQ may be a time investment, but there is no skill nor does it teach you anything. You do it because you enjoy the story or leveling that way. A skip option is for people who don't find enjoyment in that particular aspect. MMOs cater to broad varieties of people after all. Some only care for gameplay, and that's okay.

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Or you could compare it to climbing a mountain. On the one hand, you have the climbers that put in all the effort, blood sweat, tears and time to reach the top...and then you have others who found an elevator and were just taken to the top. Wouldn't that make your own efforts feel diminished and worthless?

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Strickly speaking this isn't entirely correct cause the Jump Potions wouldn't take them all the way to 'the top'. It would be more like them using the elevator to catch up with people already walking up the mountain so they can walk the final stretch to the top together.

Skipping story in an mmorpg......is this really how lazy the average mmo player is? What a shame. I thought the story was fantastic. I would not skip it for the world.

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Originally Posted by mandodo69

Skipping story in an mmorpg......is this really how lazy the average mmo player is? What a shame. I thought the story was fantastic. I would not skip it for the world.

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Depends: I like stories in mmorpgs and normal rpgs, just not this one and I played plentiful of RPGs to give my opinion about it. However other players don't like stories in their games and want to play the game: there's no right or wrong here and I occasionally play games for the gameplay too for that matter. Heck I love the story in Dynasty Warriors and the legend of the three kingdoms but I can assure you that my main focus is the gameplay. Still, the game does have a story behind it for those who want.

And please, don't use the "This is a FF game" excuse because it's both old and not viable, or else 1.0 could've sustained itself with its story and never had to shutdown. Suffice to say, it did shutdown.

PS: just my take on this but if we have to make a good comparison with other story heavey mmorpgs, just look at SWTOR and how much better it is in almost every aspect (character choices that changes certain parts of the story, character development, better voice acting, possible romance etc). It's a crappy f2p but it surpasses FFXIV in every aspect when it comes to story, and mostly because it's much better presented and told (and written: dem olde english dialogues in ffxiv are needlessly cheesy and quirky. Feels like a silly theathrical play).
And it also doesn't punish you for skipping the main story (it only warns you for spoilers). Just my two cents.

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Originally Posted by Khubla_Kha

Why would any company seeking profit do this? The potions are obviously the better option in SE's eyes as it is additional cash on top of the people already having to pay for the game + expansions. No company is going to make this choice over the alternative they have already put in motion. Regardless of people's opinion on the matter SE is not going to choose to give away free what they've already decided they will charge for.

These potions are only going to positively effect their bottom line no matter how much pissing and moaning goes on here at the forums.

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The bottom line is about more than just cash grabs. SE is in this for long-term profits, and for that they know that they need customer loyalty. You can bet that any item they put into the cash shop, INCLUDING skip potions, SE will carefully weigh just how much they can afford to annoy their playerbase. Ideally, sure, they'd love to nickel and dime us at every turn like a freemium game, but they know very well that such behavior would turn players away in droves, resulting in long-term profits that are MUCH lower than they would be if they kept that impulse at bay. As such, they're careful about what they put into the cash shop.

That said, I would be not be surprised to see skip potions available for free (at least, the first; additional skip potions to level other jobs might incur a charge), as a way to attract players to the game who might otherwise be turned off by the long main scenario grind to catch up to Stormblood. While SE has promised that some Stormblood content will be accessible without being caught up on the main scenario, you can bet that anything endgame will require it. For players who want to join FFXIV to participate in difficult endgame content but aren't interested in the story of the game, it could be just what the doctor ordered.

My biggest fear is that players who WANT to experience the story will feel pressured by other players to skip ahead. "What, you're level twelve? What are you bothering with all that crap for? Just skip, the story sucks anyway. Endgame is where the real fun is!" Only to discover once they get there that Endgame wasn't the paradise they'd been told. With no endgame, and no story, all that's left is grinding tomestones for gear in dungeons where the player has no idea why they're even in the dungeon. It's hard to imagine a player sticking around long under those conditions.

I hope that the potion comes with a pretty explicit warning that by using it, the player will be permanently lose the ability to read the whole story from the beginning, so no player is caught by surprise.

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Originally Posted by LineageRazor

My biggest fear is that players who WANT to experience the story will feel pressured by other players to skip ahead. "What, you're level twelve? What are you bothering with all that crap for? Just skip, the story sucks anyway. Endgame is where the real fun is!" Only to discover once they get there that Endgame wasn't the paradise they'd been told. With no endgame, and no story, all that's left is grinding tomestones for gear in dungeons where the player has no idea why they're even in the dungeon. It's hard to imagine a player sticking around long under those conditions.

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I think being able to take your Squadron into dungeons will help alleviate this issue. Hopefully, they make it so you can acquire them earlier and essentially turn them into trust NPCs from FFXI, if older content does become an issue for people leveling the long way. Personally, I don't think it'll be too much of an impact, especially if they do not provide a free skip potion with the expansion itself. Even if they do, I suspect plenty of people will either save it for their secondary job or go back through the story on a separate character they can take their time with.

Wonder if it's going to be kosher to kick well performing players from parties if I learn they use a jump pot.
I don't even want to play with people who skip cutscenes the first time.