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    Skipping MSQ

    Seeing a lot of threads about level jumping potions and one of the excuses thrown about a lot is new players. Thought I'd offer an alternative, buying the game and expansion(s) would automatically unlock the following:

    Character select - create new character - select to start at 'A Realm Reborn' lv.1, 'Heavensward' lv.50 and eventually 'Stormblood' lv.60.

    Problem solved right?

    Edit: Treating 'A realm reborn/Heavensward/Stormblood' as a trilogy and letting weird people start with the 3rd one if for some reason they want to isn't something I particularly want, but considering the push for it (oh please won't someone think of the newbies!) it's by far the better option.

    I think it could even be quite good if they include a 'new game+' option as well. I'd actually quite like to go back through the story on my character, if I'd started with 4.0 and never done it before it'd be great doing it the first time and getting xp for a 2nd or 3rd class at the same time. New guy hears about FFXIV from his friends, dives straight into the latest expansion with them, and then can unlock 2.0 and 3.0 from the Wandering Minstrel and play them to level alt classes. New guy is happy, the old MSQ stuff is still useful, cash shop is kept in check.
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    Last edited by Jandor; 11-17-2016 at 03:29 AM. Reason: Added in some stuff I posted on page 3

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    What, exactly, is the difference? Except now Square isn't profiting off people who skip. In fact, your scenario actually would allow bots/RMT directly into Heavensward and Stormblood for free. Part of the reason a cost exists is to deter those who might abuse it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    What, exactly, is the difference?
    It doesn't cost us extra.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Except now Square isn't profiting off people who skip.
    Do you get commission from cash shop purchases or something?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    In fact, your scenario actually would allow bots/RMT directly into Heavensward and Stormblood for free. Part of the reason a cost exists is to deter those who might abuse it.
    Not our job to stop botters, I'm prepared to help out with the report button (I barely see any bots at all these days) but the 'pay extra so we can do things that should be considered standard' excuse is starting to wear thin.

    And it wouldn't be free for bots/RMT, they would still have to purchase the expansion.
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    Last edited by Jandor; 11-16-2016 at 10:54 PM.

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    What I'd like to see as part of a solution here is that the MSQ up to Stormblood guarantees one level 60 DoW/DoM.
    People will still have to do the MSQ to get access to the content which is locked behind it, but won't have to spend hours grinding of exp to be able to progress to that point.
    One of the things I am not sure about however is how to handle the mandatory group content in the MSQ, specifically the earlier content which is hardly done by groups anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shirai View Post
    What I'd like to see as part of a solution here is that the MSQ up to Stormblood guarantees one level 60 DoW/DoM.
    People will still have to do the MSQ to get access to the content which is locked behind it, but won't have to spend hours grinding of exp to be able to progress to that point.
    That's my preferred route as well, but I just wanted to see if there was any appetite for a what seems to be to me, obvious compromise.
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    Well yeah thats possible.


    They could also rename your character for free or transfer it, but why dont charge for it as a service? I means you know how the free market works right, when somebody is willing to pay for it, why dont sell it?
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    The reason for a price on something like a Jump Potion is to make it financially unviable for Gold Farmers and Botters to use it to access high level areas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    It doesn't cost us extra.
    It should. You want to skip content others had to level through. The trade off to that is having to pay extra.

    Do you get commission from cash shop purchases or something?
    More money for Square Enix translates into more content for FFXIV or other titles they produce I happen to like.

    Not our job to stop botters, I'm prepared to help out with the report button (I barely see any bots at all these days) but the 'pay extra so we can do things that should be considered standard' excuse is starting to wear thin.

    And it wouldn't be free for bots/RMT, they would still have to purchase the expansion.
    Right. And SE does that jump by not allowing people a free skip for essentially every job. At what point was skipping to 60 ever considered standard?

    And turning this into a flag upon creating a character would make it accessible for every new character made.
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    More money for Square Enix translates into more content for FFXIV or other titles they produce I happen to like.
    Best joke of the year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandor View Post
    Not our job to stop botters, I'm prepared to help out with the report button (I barely see any bots at all these days) but the 'pay extra so we can do things that should be considered standard' excuse is starting to wear thin.

    And it wouldn't be free for bots/RMT, they would still have to purchase the expansion.
    It's not our job, which is why SE would charge a premium for the potion, as a limiting factor for RMT bots. Also, as a business, paying £20 for ARR, £15 for HW and £30 for the potion, is more than paying £20 and £15, which means more profits.

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    Best joke of the year.
    I'm sure the EU servers being moved to an actual place in EU and the new inventory increase are HILARIOUS jokes.
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